AaronRedDevil
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God I hope he stays. We desperately need him.
and he decided to build the team around Ronaldo and RooneySAF got rid of Ruud in part because he had a player (ironically Ronaldo actually) that was more important to the team. Which player in this team is more important than Ronaldo at this moment in time?
Unrelated - but is there a reason you format posts like some kind of literary psychopath?Contender for worst reply of the Season
You guys are missing the point
SAF is the best manager ever but even he knew when to go and after a title winning season as well
Ronaldo might not be the problem but he definitely is not the solution
I just don't understand how any proper football person would not see that
You have to build a team around Ronaldo that plays to Ronaldo's strength and that is not the sensible thing to do with a 37yr old
Ronaldo would make a wonderful squad player at this stage of his career but he would never accept this role in a bang average Utd team
My point again is that Ronaldo is not the future and it is time to move on.
It’s almost like the Ronaldo FC fan brigade are happy for Ronaldo to do well at the expense of Man Utd
My priority and club is Man Utd not Ronaldo Fc
Every Utd fan loves Ronaldo but not to the detriment of the the club
Since we signed Ronaldo we have gone backwards as a club and footballing team
We finished 2nd last season and now we will probably finish 6th
The team is now playing for Ronaldo and everyone passes to him
Bruno has stopped scoring,Rashford has disappeared,Cavani doesn’t want to play,Martial,Lingard,Pogba, and Mata want out and everyone else is too scared to shoot
We are not a team anymore
We can’t press or dominate even lesser teams like Norwich
If the plan is to build the future around a 37 year old player then we will be stuck in this rot forever
The confidence of all our players are shot to pieces,they did not all become bad players overnight
Ronaldo is one of the best players of all time but the time to move on is now and to build a more progressive attacking style of football
I do not enjoy watching this Utd team with or without Ronaldo
Football is a TEAM GAME
Will you stop posting in this format!and he decided to build the team around Ronaldo and Rooney
This is my point exactly, it is time for another rebuild and we can not waste another year on Ronaldo
We cannot build another team around Ronaldo as he is too old and we can not achieve anything with him in it
He will always score his goals but we will do nothing as a team
I enjoyed last season much more than this season and we did not have Ronaldo then
It is possible to build and have a good team without Ronaldo
Not really. The fact was the manager had a vision for how he wanted his team to look and a plan for how to do that. He didn't apply some vague 'get rid of Ronaldo because we need to move on from him' logic that the other poster is applying. If ETH gets rid of Ronaldo it will be for a specific reason and in service of a broader vision, not because of a vague suspicion that 'we need to move on' from somebody that's been our top performer this season.At the time absolutely nobody would have said Ronaldo would be, other than Fergie. So this is something of a moot point.
Because past equals future, and everything in football is constant, and Liverpool will remain abit average like last season forever. You might as well lock yourself in the past, stay away from reality, and never step outside from it.and he decided to build the team around Ronaldo and Rooney
This is my point exactly, it is time for another rebuild and we can not waste another year on Ronaldo
We cannot build another team around Ronaldo as he is too old and we can not achieve anything with him in it
He will always score his goals but we will do nothing as a team
I enjoyed last season much more than this season and we did not have Ronaldo then
It is possible to build and have a good team without Ronaldo
Well I wouldn't class myself as one of "you guys" (don't know what that's suggesting... maybe another phrase like your 'Ronaldo FC'. Odd) but no I'm NEVER happy when we lose a game.. whether Ronaldo gets 1, 3 or 0.You guys are satisfied as long as Ronaldo scores even though we've lost the game
Agreed, safe to say I'm a complete moron though. My personal pick for our POTS, he's earned the right to choose if he wants to stay or leave next season. Ultimately I'm glad he came back, even if for a short while.I have to say around christmas I thought he was finished. Ronaldo being Ronaldo though has come back and proved everybody wrong, again.
Clearly 3 games a week over the festive period was too much for his body. He does need some help and hopefully he accepts more rotation next season, but he's definitely able to play a big part again next year.
What an athlete.
It's hilarious to read through this thread because it's so schizophrenic. Ronaldo doesn't score for 9 games or whatever and he's useless and finished. Then he goes on a scoring run and he's incredible and United are lucky to have him.and he decided to build the team around Ronaldo and Rooney
This is my point exactly, it is time for another rebuild and we can not waste another year on Ronaldo
We cannot build another team around Ronaldo as he is too old and we can not achieve anything with him in it
He will always score his goals but we will do nothing as a team
I enjoyed last season much more than this season and we did not have Ronaldo then
It is possible to build and have a good team without Ronaldo
Good postIt's hilarious to read through this thread because it's so schizophrenic. Ronaldo doesn't score for 9 games or whatever and he's useless and finished. Then he goes on a scoring run and he's incredible and United are lucky to have him.
To know what the answer is, all you have to do is look at the teams that are actually successful in this league, i.e. Man City and Liverpool and then ask yourself how many 37 year olds they have in their squads, let alone starting every game in key positions.
What he contributes as far as goals (which is fantastic for his age TBF) is not the whole issue. It's about whether United can win the league with him in the team and starting almost every game. Let's say ETH comes in and keeps Ronaldo and he keeps scoring but the team still doesn't win. What then? He'll be 38 and breaking personal records whilst Liverpool and City continue to break point gathering and trophy winning records. And he's too big a figure to play a supporting role, let's be honest.
Why not just move him on (and several others) and retool with a new crop of younger players that will fit the system ETH wants to play? Ronaldo is many things but one thing he's not is the future. You cannot build a new side to challenge the top teams for the next decade around him.
There's such a strange notion with some on here that the club cannot possibly survive without him, which makes no sense at all. He's one of the greatest players of all time but he's hardly indispensable at 37.
Exactly, people are talking as if United was regularly finishing outside top 10 in PL before Ronaldo..It's hilarious to read through this thread because it's so schizophrenic. Ronaldo doesn't score for 9 games or whatever and he's useless and finished. Then he goes on a scoring run and he's incredible and United are lucky to have him.
To know what the answer is, all you have to do is look at the teams that are actually successful in this league, i.e. Man City and Liverpool and then ask yourself how many 37 year olds they have in their squads, let alone starting every game in key positions.
What he contributes as far as goals (which is fantastic for his age TBF) is not the whole issue. It's about whether United can win the league with him in the team and starting almost every game. Let's say ETH comes in and keeps Ronaldo and he keeps scoring but the team still doesn't win. What then? He'll be 38 and breaking personal records whilst Liverpool and City continue to break point gathering and trophy winning records. And he's too big a figure to play a supporting role, let's be honest.
Why not just move him on (and several others) and retool with a new crop of younger players that will fit the system ETH wants to play? Ronaldo is many things but one thing he's not is the future. You cannot build a new side to challenge the top teams for the next decade around him.
There's such a strange notion with some on here that the club cannot possibly survive without him, which makes no sense at all. He's one of the greatest players of all time but he's hardly indispensable at 37.
It is strange that Ronaldo has now switched the narrative to we'd be mid-table without him, from finishing 2nd last year as if without his presence there is this vaccuum where nobody takes a shot on target or nobody gets in position to score, that we'd go several games goalless without his presence, even though the team is scoring pretty much the same number of goals with or without him, as if his arrival has had absolutely no effect on Cavani, Martial, Fernandes and Rashford this season: Fernandes (they don't fit together at all, Fernandes is suffering to the point he's lost all confidence), Cavani (went on holidays when he found out he wasn't going to be first choice), Rashford (doesn't seem to me that he gets on with Ronaldo, seems to be having a permanent strop), Martial (wasn't even in matchday squads, so wanted to leave). There is only so much room in the box, only so many goals to be scored, so much attention to be given. We will never know for sure, but in a vaccuum I believe these players step up to the level they have showed in the seasons before Ronaldo was here.It's hilarious to read through this thread because it's so schizophrenic. Ronaldo doesn't score for 9 games or whatever and he's useless and finished. Then he goes on a scoring run and he's incredible and United are lucky to have him.
To know what the answer is, all you have to do is look at the teams that are actually successful in this league, i.e. Man City and Liverpool and then ask yourself how many 37 year olds they have in their squads, let alone starting every game in key positions.
What he contributes as far as goals (which is fantastic for his age TBF) is not the whole issue. It's about whether United can win the league with him in the team and starting almost every game. Let's say ETH comes in and keeps Ronaldo and he keeps scoring but the team still doesn't win. What then? He'll be 38 and breaking personal records whilst Liverpool and City continue to break point gathering and trophy winning records. And he's too big a figure to play a supporting role, let's be honest.
Why not just move him on (and several others) and retool with a new crop of younger players that will fit the system ETH wants to play? Ronaldo is many things but one thing he's not is the future. You cannot build a new side to challenge the top teams for the next decade around him.
There's such a strange notion with some on here that the club cannot possibly survive without him, which makes no sense at all. He's one of the greatest players of all time but he's hardly indispensable at 37.
That we have been so terrible defensively all of a sudden with him as the main striker. The whole team defends. Centre backs pick out passes through the middle, unpressured by Ronaldo, and are then exposed by McTominay (who doesn't know how to position at all). The amount of times the defenders are left on disadvantageous one-on-ones is shocking. The number of shots that De Gea has had to save this season is absolutely embarrassing for a top team. We are very badly coached. But the whole team has malfunctioned and two players that are "saving the day" (Ronaldo and De Gea) are a part of that too, in their deficiencies outside pure shooting or saving.Chelsea pressings in their attacking 3rd from their attacking trio last night: 38 (Havertz/Lukaku 10, Werner/Pulisic 12 and Mount 16)
United pressings in our attacking 3rd last night from our attacking trio + Bruno (Bonus): 18 (Ronaldo did 2)
How are we ever going to dominate possession or games in general when we don't collectively press to win the ball back when we lose it or the opponent starts from the back?
We'll literally let them enter our half every time they win the ball, while we struggle to get out of ours.
This post sums up how i feel 100%It's hilarious to read through this thread because it's so schizophrenic. Ronaldo doesn't score for 9 games or whatever and he's useless and finished. Then he goes on a scoring run and he's incredible and United are lucky to have him.
To know what the answer is, all you have to do is look at the teams that are actually successful in this league, i.e. Man City and Liverpool and then ask yourself how many 37 year olds they have in their squads, let alone starting every game in key positions.
What he contributes as far as goals (which is fantastic for his age TBF) is not the whole issue. It's about whether United can win the league with him in the team and starting almost every game. Let's say ETH comes in and keeps Ronaldo and he keeps scoring but the team still doesn't win. What then? He'll be 38 and breaking personal records whilst Liverpool and City continue to break point gathering and trophy winning records. And he's too big a figure to play a supporting role, let's be honest.
Why not just move him on (and several others) and retool with a new crop of younger players that will fit the system ETH wants to play? Ronaldo is many things but one thing he's not is the future. You cannot build a new side to challenge the top teams for the next decade around him.
There's such a strange notion with some on here that the club cannot possibly survive without him, which makes no sense at all. He's one of the greatest players of all time but he's hardly indispensable at 37.
He missed a fair few easy chances in that period where we were facing some beatable opposition, to be fair.If only United were half decent and provided Ronaldo proper assists, he would have score at least 10 more goals.
True. Building around 1 player doesn't really add up to a great team. Messi and Ronaldo in their prime were the key attacking players but they were surrounded by world class players as well. Ronaldo is good for his age but he's not in his prime anyway. Despite the fact that west ham don't have a Ronaldo they are above us with moyes of all managers.The idea that we shouldn't build a team around a 37-year old (Ronaldo, no less) is idiotic, not because we should be doing it, but because, why build a team around one single player anyway? Those who spout this nonsense, often refer to Man City and Liverpool not having 37-year olds in attack, but they also haven't built a team around one player either, have they? The best players play, Ronaldo is our best player so he plays.
The hope is that Ten Hag comes in and builds a system that is clear enough, so the players are interchangeable and the team doesn't suffer dramatically as a result. This is what Liverpool and Man City have built. Not some weird "37 year olds be built around" bollocks. Adding to that, what they have built is not the only way to operate and as long as Ten Hag wants Ronaldo in the team and it's paying off then why would we care?
World class players and managers. That real Madrid squad is one of the best in history.Have people on here who constantly bring it up ever asked themselves how Real Madrid won everything they've won without Ronaldo pressing?
Granted, Madrid had a different system and different players, but that's on Ole for thinking he can have Ronaldo in his team.
23 years old Mbappe defensive stats aren't much better than Ronaldo's. 8 pressures per 90 compared to Ronaldo's 7.
He's not finished. It's just a bad, VERY bad, marriage.
I don't get your point. Are you saying we move Ronaldo on because we won't win a title with him and go for a crop of younger players because we would win with them? How? Who's out there available and young that is a better number 9 than him? Also make no mistake, had City got him he'd bang them in left and right for them. Or imagine Ronaldo for this Chelsea team. Ronaldo isn't the typical 37 year old, he looks way fitter than the likes of Rashford or Martial.It's hilarious to read through this thread because it's so schizophrenic. Ronaldo doesn't score for 9 games or whatever and he's useless and finished. Then he goes on a scoring run and he's incredible and United are lucky to have him.
To know what the answer is, all you have to do is look at the teams that are actually successful in this league, i.e. Man City and Liverpool and then ask yourself how many 37 year olds they have in their squads, let alone starting every game in key positions.
What he contributes as far as goals (which is fantastic for his age TBF) is not the whole issue. It's about whether United can win the league with him in the team and starting almost every game. Let's say ETH comes in and keeps Ronaldo and he keeps scoring but the team still doesn't win. What then? He'll be 38 and breaking personal records whilst Liverpool and City continue to break point gathering and trophy winning records. And he's too big a figure to play a supporting role, let's be honest.
Why not just move him on (and several others) and retool with a new crop of younger players that will fit the system ETH wants to play? Ronaldo is many things but one thing he's not is the future. You cannot build a new side to challenge the top teams for the next decade around him.
There's such a strange notion with some on here that the club cannot possibly survive without him, which makes no sense at all. He's one of the greatest players of all time but he's hardly indispensable at 37.
Spot on. Good post.It's hilarious to read through this thread because it's so schizophrenic. Ronaldo doesn't score for 9 games or whatever and he's useless and finished. Then he goes on a scoring run and he's incredible and United are lucky to have him.
To know what the answer is, all you have to do is look at the teams that are actually successful in this league, i.e. Man City and Liverpool and then ask yourself how many 37 year olds they have in their squads, let alone starting every game in key positions.
What he contributes as far as goals (which is fantastic for his age TBF) is not the whole issue. It's about whether United can win the league with him in the team and starting almost every game. Let's say ETH comes in and keeps Ronaldo and he keeps scoring but the team still doesn't win. What then? He'll be 38 and breaking personal records whilst Liverpool and City continue to break point gathering and trophy winning records. And he's too big a figure to play a supporting role, let's be honest.
Why not just move him on (and several others) and retool with a new crop of younger players that will fit the system ETH wants to play? Ronaldo is many things but one thing he's not is the future. You cannot build a new side to challenge the top teams for the next decade around him.
There's such a strange notion with some on here that the club cannot possibly survive without him, which makes no sense at all. He's one of the greatest players of all time but he's hardly indispensable at 37.
Is it really a good post though? People were saying that about 37 year old Ronaldo and got proven wrong and Ronaldo is only contracted for one more season so not sure the post even makes sense when we are actively looking another striker anyway.Spot on. Good post.
Spot on.It's hilarious to read through this thread because it's so schizophrenic. Ronaldo doesn't score for 9 games or whatever and he's useless and finished. Then he goes on a scoring run and he's incredible and United are lucky to have him.
To know what the answer is, all you have to do is look at the teams that are actually successful in this league, i.e. Man City and Liverpool and then ask yourself how many 37 year olds they have in their squads, let alone starting every game in key positions.
What he contributes as far as goals (which is fantastic for his age TBF) is not the whole issue. It's about whether United can win the league with him in the team and starting almost every game. Let's say ETH comes in and keeps Ronaldo and he keeps scoring but the team still doesn't win. What then? He'll be 38 and breaking personal records whilst Liverpool and City continue to break point gathering and trophy winning records. And he's too big a figure to play a supporting role, let's be honest.
Why not just move him on (and several others) and retool with a new crop of younger players that will fit the system ETH wants to play? Ronaldo is many things but one thing he's not is the future. You cannot build a new side to challenge the top teams for the next decade around him.
There's such a strange notion with some on here that the club cannot possibly survive without him, which makes no sense at all. He's one of the greatest players of all time but he's hardly indispensable at 37.
The Ronaldo thread in the football forum was constantly bumped when he didn't score a hat-trick in recent years. It's his first time not scoring in a little over five games - but it's still just that isn't it ? Five games ! Just a few games playing shite when the rest of the team has been shite too (except Sancho).
Look I could very well be wrong and he is fecked, all I'm saying is people have prematurely written off Ronaldo every year for the past five years. He doesn't look much slower or less powerful now - so I have a hope we can eke out some more GOAT level performances from him!
I know! Why don’t we get a team full of good players, just like man city and Liverpool did? The idea that we should get rid of our 1 world class player to make the rest of the team better…. Well maybe you could convince RM, City, Liverpool that they should do that.It's hilarious to read through this thread because it's so schizophrenic. Ronaldo doesn't score for 9 games or whatever and he's useless and finished. Then he goes on a scoring run and he's incredible and United are lucky to have him.
To know what the answer is, all you have to do is look at the teams that are actually successful in this league, i.e. Man City and Liverpool and then ask yourself how many 37 year olds they have in their squads, let alone starting every game in key positions.
What he contributes as far as goals (which is fantastic for his age TBF) is not the whole issue. It's about whether United can win the league with him in the team and starting almost every game. Let's say ETH comes in and keeps Ronaldo and he keeps scoring but the team still doesn't win. What then? He'll be 38 and breaking personal records whilst Liverpool and City continue to break point gathering and trophy winning records. And he's too big a figure to play a supporting role, let's be honest.
Why not just move him on (and several others) and retool with a new crop of younger players that will fit the system ETH wants to play? Ronaldo is many things but one thing he's not is the future. You cannot build a new side to challenge the top teams for the next decade around him.
There's such a strange notion with some on here that the club cannot possibly survive without him, which makes no sense at all. He's one of the greatest players of all time but he's hardly indispensable at 37.
Nothing unreasonable about doubting a 37 year old or wondering whether he was what this team really needed.Imagine watching football your whole life and then when Cristiano Ronaldo, a footall and more importantly United legend went on a goal drought at our club, you suggested he was a problem rather than an asset to the club and/or claimed he was finished as a top player.
You should be truly embarrassed, for your stupidity as well as your lack of loyalty.
There doesn't seem to be much about loyalty when fans say we don't deserve him or they would love to see how he would do at City. Not really stuff you'd say about Robson.Nothing unreasonable about doubting a 37 year old or wondering whether he was what this team really needed.
As for loyalty, I don’t remember much of that from 2008 onwards. And I don’t think his return to United was based on romance but more 500k a week.