People that are fans of players, not clubs, are so strange to me
Listen to you mate, ffs.
You go around here pretending to be neutral like a coward to try and give your posts more gravitas, yet you're constantly defensive of Ronaldo in a way you never are with Messi. You tried to police this thread to remove anti-Ronaldo posters in a way you did not with anti-Messi posters in his thread. Do you think that I am the only one who can see what you are doing? I am sure the likes of Zehner, Joel Miller, Andrade, swoobs and heraklion have noticed it too.
They're both sportswashing scumbags though Messi is by far the superior player. But having read this site for 15 years it's boring reading this thread and seeing you pretend to be neutral and fair when you clearly have bias for Ronaldo and cannot admit it.
If you were fair you wouldn't be so in favour of one in your posting. Why are you always calling out 'Messi lovers' but you say nothing about the mental Ronaldo fanatics' bollocks in here? Why do you call out all criticism of Ronaldo but are fine with criticism of the other guy? Why do you try to police this thread but not the Messi thread (someone else even alluded to it)? Why do you say 'let's appreciate both' to try to give the idea that they are equal peers when anyone with a clue knows Messi is the significantly better player?
I am out of posts because of this flawed newbie system. No doubt you'll reply with more shite. It's just fecking sickening seeing your 'I am so objective and superior to Messi fans' shtick when clearly have a major bias to Creepnaldo. Other people will definitely have noticed you doing it.
You've even in recent pages started asking people 'any reason for the vitriol'...about Cristiano Ronaldo of all people? Have you been living under a rock for the past twenty years? Can you honestly not understand why people would hate Cristiano Ronaldo? He's not exactly the most likeable of fellows, is he? Even Man United (who I am not a fan of but most people here are) fans have plenty reason to hate him based on the events of last year. Yet here you are wide-eyed asking 'any reason why you hate him?' Are you playing dumb?
I think you're just trolling now.
Edit: say what you like mate. As I said, I knew some clown would bring up your faulty newbie system. I have been following football since the 80s and know things about the history of the game you will never learn. Being new to a website won't change that. The fact someone like you is promoted when you talk so much crap proves it is faulty. I was proved right about Ole being clueless, I said after day one he was a moronic charisma vacuum with zero tactical ability, while you lot argued about it for THREE YEARS and laughably compared him to Pep and Klopp, I read through those threads bewildered at how you couldn't see how clueless the little gnome was.I said Ronaldo was a bad fit, while you reacted with your knees to his brace against Newcastle, I said Rashford and Fernandes were problems for United long before it became a thing on here, because they are both moments players who force you into playing counter-attack chaos football, so I would say I am doing pretty well. As I said, the newbie system seems to be about promoting who the biggest top red is such is the level of deluded positivity in the United threads.
I also predicted in the summer that Ten Hag will be gone by New Year 2025, while you were all talking about him like he's the messiah. I might actually have been conservative - he will probably be gone after you play at Anfield.
And I am not saying you cannot say Ronaldo was a great player - the point is that saying we should appreciate them both is implying they're on an equal level, when the truth is Messi is easily better and that is what most people think (despite this being the appeal to popularity fallacy).
The fact is, you are clearly a Ronaldo fanboy, 'petal' (you condescending cnut).
The fact you are never in the Messi thread yet spend your life in the Ronaldo thread tells its own story, does it not? You're an embarrassment of a poster.
' but some posters seem intent on imposing their own opinion on threads until EVERYONE agrees with them (no exceptions). '
that's because it is not an opinion like 'do you prefer bananas or apples' where either answer is normal. The fact is Messi has so much more to his game that trying to paint them as equal players and it being a matter of opinion or preference is extremely generous to Ronaldo and unfair to Messi. It's not like prime Griezmann or Hazard which you can feasibly argue either way - in this case it is clear Messi is the much bigger genius.
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I'm really not a CR7 fan. Loved watching him play for untied but have no affinity to him now. And yes, I've said many times I think Messi is the better player!
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Why are you camped out in his thread then? Defending everything about him?
I accept I came in with an aggressive attitude and it was unnecessary. But surely you can see your behaviour over the months in this topic is pretty odd for someone who doesn't even like him? Why are you posting 'boring' emojis when Andrade says he needs more goals to equal Pele if you have no stake?
I agree with you that both Ronaldo and Messi are bellends, for myriad reasons. But putting aside my dislike for Messi and hate for Ronaldo, judging them purely as footballers, Messi is clearly a lot better. If Ronaldo had Messi's dribbling, passing and playmaking skills I would agree he's on Messi's level even if he was still a massive cnut. But that clearly isn't the case. I hate Neymar, he seems nearly as cnutish as Ronaldo, but I am a big fan of his as a footballer.
Edit 2: thanks mate, I thought it was the best way to do it. Tbh I am not really as much of an aggressive bellend as I have acted I am just so sick of Ronaldo and his worshippers who are so obsessive about him. It isn't limited to Ronaldo - I have a real issues with celebrity worship syndrome and parasocial relationships in general, I think they are extremely damaging.
Tbh I still feel there's a part of you that subconsciously favours Ronaldo over Messi, but I can be a decent man and admit I was an absolute bellend to you. You have to understand it's just I seen you posting defending Ronaldo all the time yet claiming to be neutral. I didn't really buy it. But I am sure you are a decent guy and that we'd get on well in another setting.
I apologise for being a condescending tit in my earlier posts. As for the Ronaldo fanboy post - I am more worried for their mental health and obsessiveness over the guy, rather than genuinely thinking they are complete pricks.
Sorry man
I spent ages typing the first two posts on Libre Office so I could post them in immediate succession. I was surprised they were approved tbh because I do come across as an aggressive prick, but I stand by many of my points even if some are made in an antagonistic fashion and seem written to deliberately wind his fans up.
Edit 3: it's ok mate, it was just irritating to read as a lurker when I could not reply. Tbh maybe I shouldn't see enemies where there could be potential friends...
If I was to stay I would probably post in the entertainment forum (I will be honest I dislike United, so would probably not get involved in arguments in those threads, and I do feel there is some bias towards your players, but that happens on all forums. As for politics forum, I always avoid them as nothing good can come of political debate, I have learned that in the past.).
But the entertainment forum is brilliant. Lots of very knowledgeable posts in there and I am a massive film buff, love TV shows, anime, music, some gaming etc. Books too. So that would be a place I could post.
Edit 4:
' Can't wait for the dissertation-length posts. '
admittedly I was gonna edit that sentence out as I expected some snippy comments about that. But ironically after all this, I couldn't be arsed.
BigDerek walked so DWC1982 could run (on).