You chose a clip that was specially created to highlight his speed not his dribbling. I can equally share a compilation where he’s just simply dribbling players and not necessarily utilising just speed.
Fair enough. You reasoning is a lot clearer here and I agree with a lot of it but some of the names you included were OTT for me.
That doesn’t mean anything. Even the likes of Ronaldinho and R9 could no longer beat players the same after they lost some speed. Doesn’t mean that they weren’t exceptional dribblers beforehand.
It's basically the same as the one I posted. He uses speed and acceleration as one of his main assets to beat the defenders. Why do you think he suddenly stopped doing that as soon as his speed declined? He was already having issues beating players in Serie A 5 years ago.
Didn’t make any comparison to Ronaldinho. I was just letting you know that using speed doesn’t mean he’s a kick and rush player like you stated considering Ronaldinho’s dribbling ability declined substantially once he deteriorated physically. He was basically doing everything on the spot and passing the ball on as early as 30/31 and no-one will tell you he particularly relied on speed.
Aaron Lennon and Shaun Wright Philips are good examples for my point since they were much quicker but not nearly as proficient at dribbling as Cristiano. Cristiano possessed very good dribbling technique and especially very good situational awareness. Or in other words, he knew where space would open up and had the technical and physical abilities to dribble there. Somebody like Lennon probably had the physical ability but lacked both the situational awareness and the technical ability to do it at the same level. Traore e. g. has the technique plus the physique but because he's awful in decision making and awareness, his dribbles rarely create anything.
Yeah one the things about Giggs was the blistering pace and his speed running with the ball. Valencia had insane pace but couldnt beat a defender once they figured out how to beat stop his only trick.
Since Messi didnt score against Lyon, Ronnie will bury Messi if he scores. I take it Messi will be placed on chop chop square in mecca for the final hit. He might be short enough to wiggle himself out it.
I should state that I really dislike Ronaldo, and the post you quoted is one of the most complimentary I ever wrote about him.
Fair enough, I think disagreements on this thread are mostly down to definitional stuff. Everybody seems to have his own definition of technique.
wrong, epl was much weaker last season, 20% of Ronaldo’s goals were against Norwich. United are inarguably a MUCH better team this season than last. It’s not even debatable, and letting Ronaldo and his toxicity go certainly helped.
We're a much better team because we signed 250m worth of players including the best DM in the world and have a much better manager, not because we replaced Ronaldo with weghorst. We'd be much better with last season's version of Ronaldo leading the line in this side
addition by subtraction as well, Ronaldo was a big issue in the locker room. Even if he was still with the team he wouldn’t be a nailed starter which speaks volumes about his value
Dearie me....
He wouldn't be based on this seasons form I'm talking about Ronaldo last year who people said was holding us back, but even though he was playingwith a mcfred midfield and rashford looked like he forgot how to play football, we're only 3 points better off after 27 games. Ronaldo of last year would definitely be starting up front, ahead of weghorst ffs
Don't forget the Wegmonster runs around a lot though.
There is no way Dybala and Berbatov are technically better than Ronaldo, not even better than the goalscorer version of Ronaldo btw.
The comparison is fair, as both R9 and Ronaldinho barely dribble once they lost speed due to being out of shape.
I think some people become so obsessed with Ronaldo's lack of pressing last season that they've convinced themselves that running about a lot is the most important attribute for a striker
No he absolutely wouldn’t. He doesn’t press and without goals he offers you zilch. Come on now, you’re just reeling of desperation. Club is inarguably better this year. With Ronaldo this year they’d def be worse having to force play through him all the time. It’s no surprise rashford has been a hundred times better since Ronaldo left. There’s a reason NO club in Europe wanted Ronaldo because he wouldn’t help at all. No work rate, and his diva attitude is toxic. He was benched during a World Cup ffs. Just give it up
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He was benched during a world cup during this season, I'm talking about last season where he scored 18 goals. We're only 3 points better off this season than last season after the same number of games, despite having casemiro, Antony, martinez, malacia and eriksen. And having a proper manager, and having rashford actually be able to play football again (no matter how much you want to blame that on Ronaldo he wasn't the one stopping rashford from being able to beat a man or hit a shot on target). Given all that, it might have helped to have someone who can actually score goals up front rather than weghorst
So in your opinion, 2 goals in 19 games is compensated for by pressing. You’re hilarious. You may aswell lump any piece of meat up there that can run then because according to you offering “pressing” and zilch is better than offering goals.
Zehner is known for confusing flair and drinking with talent.
something Ronaldo would also do pretty often. Except Ronaldo dominated as a winger as well where he regularly dribbled past him player or beat his man from the corner flag.Yeah but he was skilled to do this in tight spaces
Ronnies most outstanding qualities in his peak was his explosive pace (both with and without the ball), athletism and his ability to get into good positions to be available for service or get a shot away. Now's he's left with just the latter.
Context must be added to this. He was averaging that many shots per game because he would usually shoot from obscene angles and ranges that other players wouldn’t even consider not because he was missing kindergarten chances ala Weghorst.
This is actually strange/bold argument, especially when you are talking about a player who has actually scored more goals than Pele, and has score more goals than any player in the history of the game. I assume you just want to trigger a few response here.
This quote is an excellent example of why the objective "score goals yourself" can be detrimental to the team objective "win the game" @frostbite. It makes zero sense to be shooting from impossible angles or distances all the time and this for me is the biggest points of criticism, even in his prime. Cristiano optimized his goal record not his football/overall contribution/impact/however you want to call it.
He's literally using his speed to skip past defenders not to mention he's going backwards instead of forwards in some of those clips
Well Cruyff does that a lot too, spamming speed to skip past defenders in similar fashion, and he is widely regarded as among elite dribblers in the game.He's literally using his speed to skip past defenders not to mention he's going backwards instead of forwards in some of those clips
39 sec he's literally spamming speed to beat players - just look at the ball control
Ronaldo's main asset was his speed and crazy acceleration which became very clear when he couldn't beat defender he usually would a few years ago with ease. I even remember when they tried to make a point at how crazy fast he was when he did that commercial competing with a Bugatti? Anyone member? And they had those Castrol Football stat rankings or what it was called.
Sometimes you gotta turn backwards in order to not lose ball. Or sideways to create space.He's literally using his speed to skip past defenders not to mention he's going backwards instead of forwards in some of those clips
39 sec he's literally spamming speed to beat players - just look at the ball control
