Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement

[Adnan]

If I'm not mistaken the one thing that is kind of accepted is that it's not spacious enough. The rest is nonsense because it's constantly revamped and improved. And as you said all managers have been allowed to suggest and get new equipments.

You're correct JP, but under Jose Mourinho we went backwards when it came to the medical and Sports science side of the club. And below is the testimony of Dr Robin Thorpe who worked at the club until 2019 in a Head of recovery/regeneration capacity and described the sports science side at the club as one that was among the very best until Mourinho's arrival. No other club had a similar role to the one Dr Robin Thorpe was occupying and hence we were described as being ahead of the competition when it comes to the Sports science side of the club.

Dr Robin Thorpe:
"We used the monitoring framework up until the first year of Jose Mourinho’s time as manager of United. During his first season the emphasis moved from monitoring fatigue to rehab monitoring."

"I do believe we had created something special in the monitoring of recovery and fatigue, but that wasn’t as much of a priority for Jose, which was obviously his prerogative as manager."

"He allowed us to keep doing it - and in the first year we kept monitoring throughout - but when we realised there were other areas he wanted us to hone in on and get better at, we focused more on a rehab monitoring protocol."

"The monitoring lounge - probably the best monitoring space in the world - that we’d developed under Sir Alex and Louis was turned into a medical room. Looking back, that was disappointing, but adaptability is important for both a practitioner and a department."

"Sports science is part of the process, it’s not THE process. As I said near the start, we’re ultimately there to help the key stakeholders - with the manager or head coach chief among them."

https://trainingground.guru/articles/robin-thorpe-how-man-utd-reached-sports-science-utopia

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Haven't watched it yet, but everyone on Reddit seems to be saying it was fairly lame/not very explosive/doesn't warrant kicking out of club.

Also everyone saying that Piers Morgan should be on pornhub because he rides a dick like no other.

That’s probably because they’re a bunch of fecking half-wits. Dipped my toe in there when Mourinho’s project was going up in flames and they wouldn’t hear a bad word about him. Likewise any criticism of any player in the entire squad got downvoted to feck.

 

[AlPistacho]

Piers Morgan tried his best to shit stir
Think this being in English didn’t help Ronaldo. Had it been in Portuguese, Ronaldo wouldn’t have swallowed the bait as much. Some of what he wants to say is misinterpreted.

There is no way Ronaldo would have said Rooney and Neville are not my friends. Piers definitely was almost provoking him to say it.

The worst thing Ronaldo did was agree to get interviewed by this prick and hasn’t realised Morgan has used Ronaldo’s fame for his own agenda!

He’s English is good enough.
“They are not my friends they are colleagues, we do no have dinner together”

The Rooney one seems very disrespectful. “He was round my house 6 month ago, (something about their kids) I don’t understand people like that maybe he is jealous …(then says the rest about Rooney retiring early )

 

[djembatheking]

Rooney hasn`t even said anything bad about him, he has just given his opinion that he doesn`t think he offers enough to the team in Ten Hags system to be starting games anymore and should come off the bench when the manager requests it and do his bit for the team. It is an opinion shared by most people as the team has been functioning far better visibly and statistically without Ronaldo in it and it is only feckwits like Piers Morgan that can`t see this. I really don`t think Rooney and Gary Neville will lose any sleep about comments from the rubber head bellend though.

 

[Tommy79]

People think its just the pool or whatever. But when a player like Ronaldo who has been at Real and Juventus and won thing we havent in 20 years criticizes the technology and structure he is on to something. Why are we ok with it? Just because we don't like him? Forget the ETH stuff, Ronaldo will be gone. But we shouldn't forget the points where he is correct. The club is in shambles and far behind in every aspect...

He deserves credit for pointing that out

Hmm if you are going to use timelines, might want to get them straight first as all 3 teams in that time frame have won their league, domestic cups, CL, hell we even got the Europa League too.

 

[Infestissumam]

People think its just the pool or whatever. But when a player like Ronaldo who has been at Real and Juventus and won thing we havent in 20 years criticizes the technology and structure he is on to something. Why are we ok with it? Just because we don't like him? Forget the ETH stuff, Ronaldo will be gone. But we shouldn't forget the points where he is correct. The club is in shambles and far behind in every aspect...

He deserves credit for pointing that out

he deserves absolutely zero credit for doing an interview like this. It's baffling to me that people will defend this shit by going "but he has a point" ... it doesn't even matter if he has a point or not. You don't give an interview like that, period. It doesn't get more unprofessional than this.

 

[cyberman]

People think its just the pool or whatever. But when a player like Ronaldo who has been at Real and Juventus and won thing we havent in 20 years criticizes the technology and structure he is on to something. Why are we ok with it? Just because we don't like him? Forget the ETH stuff, Ronaldo will be gone. But we shouldn't forget the points where he is correct. The club is in shambles and far behind in every aspect...

He deserves credit for pointing that out

He hasn’t got a point because so many lies have been pointed out already that you don’t know what’s true or not.
plus the fact he shouldn’t be doing this 14 league games in. It may feel like it’s the end of the season but it’s not.

 

[Glorio]

We know exactly why it’s been done, because United brought him for Ole-ball, but then had to fire Ole. We then brought in two managers that demand players press & close down passing lanes; something Ronaldo wouldn’t do at 27 so certainly doesn’t want to, or think he should have to at 37.

These appointments make him feel betrayed, and he thinks they are wrong, because he gives only a shit about himself. He doesn’t care if ETH is the best way forward for United, cause it’s not the best for him, and if it’s not the best for him, his own head tells him it’s not the best for United.

To be honest, Ronaldo is ill-suited to Ole-ball, and I reckon between him and to a lesser extent, Sancho, they rendered it's productive elements impotent.

 

[Sylar]

It wasn't an interview. It felt more like two mates using the platform to promote one person to shift blame everywhere else

All soft ball questions and it wasn't live so it could be dictated.

I said it from the clips but you see it more in here that Piers is a master at manipulating the direction this went. Almost feeding Ronaldo with some stuff to get a certain narrative or quotes
He's also a major suck up

The funny thing is the most newsworthy parts were already posted by piers on his twitter.

This thing does show Ronaldo is fragile with the way he deals with criticism. Also explains why Rio and the like talk absolute nonsense regarding Ronaldo

 

[Greck]

Haven't watched it yet, but everyone on Reddit seems to be saying it was fairly lame/not very explosive/doesn't warrant kicking out of club.

Also everyone saying that Piers Morgan should be on pornhub because he rides a dick like no other.

Sounds like they haven't made the genius deduction that there must be a 2nd part yet to air.

 

[Huddsred]

Piers Morgan tried his best to shit stir
Think this being in English didn’t help Ronaldo. Had it been in Portuguese, Ronaldo wouldn’t have swallowed the bait as much. Some of what he wants to say is misinterpreted.

There is no way Ronaldo would have said Rooney and Neville are not my friends. Piers definitely was almost provoking him to say it.

The worst thing Ronaldo did was agree to get interviewed by this prick and hasn’t realised Morgan has used Ronaldo’s fame for his own agenda!

Ronaldo is fluent in English. He also called Piers personally as he wanted to do this and he meant every word that came out of his mouth. Yes Morgan is a prick but Ronaldo's not stupid and he's not some naive kid, he knew exactly what he was doing.

 

[TheGame]

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[tomaldinho1]

Feels very much like his United career part 2 now. Big banging start and everyone paying attention tapering off quickly to lots of noise but very little substance.

Basically the first coach who drops him (completely justifiably) has caused a temper tantrum and Piers Morgan, the bottom feeder that he is, has exploited it. There’s not much else to it.

 

[djembatheking]

he deserves absolutely zero credit for doing an interview like this. It's baffling to me that people will defend this shit by going "but he has a point" ... it doesn't even matter if he has a point or not. You don't give an interview like that, period. It doesn't get more unprofessional than this.

Exactly, there is no defending him whatsoever.

 

[ForeverRed1]

The younger generation thing is very true. I watched that save my squad with David Beckham thing on Disney plus and I noticed the kids were more excited by how many Instagram followers becks had and what car he was driving. They want to be famous more than they do play football. The reason they want to play football is because of the money and fame. Sad

 

[JPRouve]

You're correct JP, but under Jose Mourinho we went backwards when it came to the medical and Sports science side of the club. And below is the testimony of Dr Robin Thorpe who worked at the club until 2019 in a Head of recovery/regeneration capacity and described the sports science side at the club as one that was among the very best until Mourinho's arrival. No other club had a similar role to the one Dr Robin Thorpe was occupying and hence we were described as being ahead of the competition when it comes to the Sports science side of the club.

Dr Robin Thorpe:
"We used the monitoring framework up until the first year of Jose Mourinho’s time as manager of United. During his first season the emphasis moved from monitoring fatigue to rehab monitoring."

"I do believe we had created something special in the monitoring of recovery and fatigue, but that wasn’t as much of a priority for Jose, which was obviously his prerogative as manager."

"He allowed us to keep doing it - and in the first year we kept monitoring throughout - but when we realised there were other areas he wanted us to hone in on and get better at, we focused more on a rehab monitoring protocol."

"The monitoring lounge - probably the best monitoring space in the world - that we’d developed under Sir Alex and Louis was turned into a medical room. Looking back, that was disappointing, but adaptability is important for both a practitioner and a department."

"Sports science is part of the process, it’s not THE process. As I said near the start, we’re ultimately there to help the key stakeholders - with the manager or head coach chief among them."

https://trainingground.guru/articles/robin-thorpe-how-man-utd-reached-sports-science-utopia

But you see I like that because it exposes two things that anyone that isn't trying to push a weird agenda knows. The club invested in facilities and personnel, the club also almost always follows the instructions of the current manager. At no point will I ever suggest that United is perfect and can't improve it would be a ridiculous take but it's infuriating to see people claim that the club doesn't do things that it has always done. If you take 2012-2013 as an example United were arguably at the top of the pyramid because our medical and sport science structures were brand new and if I remember correctly the players area had just been refurbished or it was the following year.

And yes Mourinho was a bit of a dinosaur, rejecting trackers and wanting to rely on gut feelings instead of objective data.

 

[TheNewEra]

Ronaldo is angry we didn't replace the kitchen staff "even the kitchen staff the same", shots fired.

You know he's a football pensioner when he complains about "kids these days" sounds like a boomer

 

[kaku06]

he deserves absolutely zero credit for doing an interview like this. It's baffling to me that people will defend this shit by going "but he has a point" ... it doesn't even matter if he has a point or not. You don't give an interview like that, period. It doesn't get more unprofessional than this.

The Glazers send their love. I mean both the things can be right at the same time. Isn’t it? He shouldn’t have given this interview and should be sacked for disrespecting ten hag and the club but what about the issues at the club after he’s gone. Are they fake? Are they not gonna matter or you gonna close your eyes like a pigeon and hope they disappear?

Nobody needs to give any credit to Ronaldo and no need to praise him for anything but the issues need to be raised and anger should be channelled against the parasites. Ronaldo is an after thought in my eyes after this interview and good riddance. I don’t care about the bellend one bit but the screw must turn against the owners now. My fear is we get rid of Ronaldo and the issues still remain within this club and I dread it will ultimately be the downfall of ten hag too. feck Ronaldo and feck Glazers, Manchester United should come out stronger and must benefit from this whole fiasco.

 

[Adnan]

But you see I like that because it exposes two things that anyone that isn't trying to push a weird agenda knows. The club invested in facilities and personnel, the club also almost always follows the instructions of the current manager. At no point will I ever suggest that United is perfect and can't improve it would be a ridiculous take but it's infuriating to see people claim that the club doesn't do things that it has always done. If you take 2012-2013 as an example United were arguably at the top of the pyramid because our medical and sport science structures were brand new and if I remember correctly the players area had just been refurbished or it was the following year.

And yes Mourinho was a bit of a dinosaur, rejecting trackers and wanting to rely on gut feelings instead of objective data.

I completely agree mate. It's easy to blame the club when the managers were even more culpable for the way we declined on the football side of the club imo.

I don't think there's many clubs in Europe who backed their managers like the way United backed their managers post Fergie.

 

[Ali Dia]

We know exactly why it’s been done, because United brought him for Ole-ball, but then had to fire Ole. We then brought in two managers that demand players press & close down passing lanes; something Ronaldo wouldn’t do at 27 so certainly doesn’t want to, or think he should have to at 37.

These appointments make him feel betrayed, and he thinks they are wrong, because he gives only a shit about himself. He doesn’t care if ETH is the best way forward for United, cause it’s not the best for him, and if it’s not the best for him, his own head tells him it’s not the best for United.

I still feel he was forced on Ole and his transfer was the major undoing of Oles time here. It was probably too much drama and meddling from above for a manager like Ole to handle or stand up to. This transfer was exactly what’s wrong with this club. It’s got glazers written all over it. Not a clever footballing decision. City would probably have signed him and then went all in on Haaland too. What the hell are we even at still pandering to this guy.

 

[Infestissumam]

The Glazers send their love. I mean both the things can be right at the same time. Isn’t it? He shouldn’t have given this interview and should be sacked for disrespecting ten hag and the club but what about the issues at the club after he’s gone. Are they fake? Are they not gonna matter or you gonna close your eyes like a pigeon and hope they disappear?

Nobody needs to give any credit to Ronaldo and no need to praise him for anything but the issues need to be raised and anger should be channelled against the parasites. Ronaldo is an after thought in my eyes after this interview and good riddance but the screw must turn against the owners. My fear is we get rid of Ronaldo and the issues still remain within this club and I dread it will ultimately be the downfall of ten hag too. feck Ronaldo and feck Glazers, Manchester United should come out stronger and must benefit from this whole fiasco.

I despise our owners as much as everybody else, so spare me the patronising "The Glazers send their love" BS. I'm fully aware of all the issues surrounding this club and its ownership, but that doesn't mean I will give one iota of credit to a player who sneaks two sentences about the Glazers into a self-pitying, narcissistic and club-slandering 90 minute interview.

 

[Foxbatt]

But you can understand his gripes at media when the reaction on here is that of pure hatred instead of wondering why it’s been done?

When he said he doesn't respect the manager that's enough. He simply should feck off. I don't care if the manager doesn't play him. Actually he played him too much is my issue with ETH. He has been crap every time he played and he refused to come on as a sub and left the stadium. That's strong enough to sack him.

 

[arthurka]

Ronaldo is a desirable and beautiful strawberry but that Rooney is a ugly potato. That's what I got from this, he also thinks the rest of the world is not working if it's not praising him mostly due to jealousy.

 

[Gazza]

Piers Morgan tried his best to shit stir
Think this being in English didn’t help Ronaldo. Had it been in Portuguese, Ronaldo wouldn’t have swallowed the bait as much. Some of what he wants to say is misinterpreted.

There is no way Ronaldo would have said Rooney and Neville are not my friends. Piers definitely was almost provoking him to say it.

The worst thing Ronaldo did was agree to get interviewed by this prick and hasn’t realised Morgan has used Ronaldo’s fame for his own agenda!

I don't know how people can believe this. Not trying to come across like a dick here (though I'm sure i do) but this is a remarkably naïve take.

 

[kaku06]

I despise our owners as much as everybody else, so spare me the patronising "The Glazers send their love" BS. I'm fully aware of all the issues surrounding this club and its ownership, but that doesn't mean I will give one iota of credit to a player who sneaks two sentences about the Glazers into a self-pitying, narcissistic and club-slandering 90 minute interview.

Good on you then. Don’t give any credit to him, he doesn’t deserve any like you said but you do acknowledge the points he made whether he used them for his own good or not. Right? And you agree there are issues that need to highlighted now even more so. Right?

 

[Traub]

The younger generation thing is very true. I watched that save my squad with David Beckham thing on Disney plus and I noticed the kids were more excited by how many Instagram followers becks had and what car he was driving. They want to be famous more than they do play football. The reason they want to play football is because of the money and fame. Sad

I mean isn't this why 99.99% of the world work?

 

[Gycraig]

The younger generation thing is very true. I watched that save my squad with David Beckham thing on Disney plus and I noticed the kids were more excited by how many Instagram followers becks had and what car he was driving. They want to be famous more than they do play football. The reason they want to play football is because of the money and fame. Sad

Most of the kids will never have seen becks play football though so it’s kind of expected.
Most people play football for the money, they aren’t sacrificing their whole childhood/teens to have a 1% chance of being a footballer if it paid 20k a year are they.
Football is ultimately a job its a reality of life

 

[MUFC OK]

I think the issue is that there are 2 schools of thought with football:

Traditionalists (for lack of a better word)
One that Ronaldo / Ole and then some well accomplished managers like Zidane + Ancelotti + Allegri + Mourinho would belong to

^ Ronaldo had the fortune of always playing for these types up until Rangnick. This is down to finding a system that works for great individual players to get results. Piers Morgan I think only see's football this way which is why he actually reckons Ronaldo works at Arsenal. In the most extreme cases, they don't see football played any other way (Ole when he famously said "it's not all about tactics but desire etc." or staunch Ronaldo defenders who point to his individual goals and refute team statistics).

These types view football where the best individual players on the pitch should win the games, it's up to the manager to find a solution that works for them. And certain managers have been of this ilk with success. But I think its a dying breed because of the more modern school of thought.

Revolutionists
Your tiki-taka Peps, or Gegenpress Klopps, Ten Hag's hybrid of the two etc.

These guys have some differences but a consistency in their systems is workrate + press. They don't believe in catering for an individual unless they make the collective better, i.e. the player fits in the system and not the other way round.

This type is more successful in the modern game for me - you take the previous CL Finalists and winners - it's Real yes, but then Liverpool/Chelsea and as much as I hate to say it, Pep has a great chance to win it for City this year.

Problem is, the traditionalists refuse to accept this concept, and when the GOAT happens to be a traditionalist narcassist, clashing with a revolutionist manager, it's not a surprise this is happening.

I think the whole idea of a system and micromanaging player roles etc with detail down to a tee is bollocks, guess that makes me more traditionalist. Also think this idea of strikers who defend well, goalkeepers who are great ball players is massively overstated and not something I’m a big fan of.

Zlatan and Pep springs to mind by the way.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

The younger generation thing is very true. I watched that save my squad with David Beckham thing on Disney plus and I noticed the kids were more excited by how many Instagram followers becks had and what car he was driving. They want to be famous more than they do play football. The reason they want to play football is because of the money and fame. Sad

That’s been the case for a long long time, since I was a kid in the 80’s for sure. Hence why so many more kids wanna be footballers & not darts players.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

I think the whole idea of a system and micromanaging player roles etc with detail down to a tee is bollocks, guess that makes me more traditionalist. Also think this idea of strikers who defend well, goalkeepers who are great ball players is massively overstated and not something I’m a big fan of.

Zlatan and Pep springs to mind by the way.

Would never have guessed.

Not a big fan of Klopp & Pep then I guess? It’s perfectly acceptable opinion to have.

 

[MUFC OK]

Good on you then. Don’t give any credit to him, he doesn’t deserve any like you said but you do acknowledge the points he made whether he used them for his own good or not. Right? And you agree there are issues that need to highlighted now even more so. Right?

Not for many on here. This what I’ve been slated on here for saying this week and called a fan boy for highlighting. It can only be all good or all bad for some.

 

[Hugh Jass]

Narcissism off the charts.

 

[Vidic178]

This interview wasn't anywhere near as bad as I thought it was gonna be tbh, though we haven't seen the second half

 

[MUFC OK]

Would never have guessed.

Not a big fan of Klopp & Pep then I guess? It’s perfectly acceptable opinion to have.

You again..

They’re two of the best in the business but clearly but it’s not the only way to go about things by having an idea very rigid system. Look at Madrid last year in the CL.

Maybe I’m more old fashioned in only wanting goals from a striker and a goalkeeper who makes great saves as their primary function. You can probably guess I’m a big fan of Ddg.

 

[pogbasformerbarber]

In all honesty I find this so sad as a fan of the club.

I was ecstatic we got him last year and felt he was the perfect two year bridge to greenwood. We wouldn’t set the world on fire but we’d be relevant again. To find us here now on both counts is just depressing…what could have been…

 

[Guapa]

Yawn.

 

[Reapersoul20]

That’s probably because they’re a bunch of fecking half-wits. Dipped my toe in there when Mourinho’s project was going up in flames and they wouldn’t hear a bad word about him. Likewise any criticism of any player in the entire squad got downvoted to feck.

It's weird as well how /r/soccer and /r/reddevils seem united in defending Ronaldo. Same on Tik Tok and a lot of the places that are easily swayed by bot farms to push an agenda...

Hmm, I wonder if this is just me being cynical or if there is an effort from the CR7PR team to negate damage by any means necessary...

 

[Gazza]

Not for many on here. This what I’ve been slated on here for saying this week and called a fan boy for highlighting. It can only be all good or all bad for some.

I think it's more that people have pointed out to you that bringing up the Glazers and training facilities is a red herring in terms of Ronaldo's actual motivations for doing the interview.

 

[Foxbatt]

It's weird as well how /r/soccer and /r/reddevils seem united in defending Ronaldo. Same on Tik Tok and a lot of the places that are easily swayed by bot farms to push an agenda...

Hmm, I wonder if this is just me being cynical or if there is an effort from the CR7PR team to negate damage by any means necessary...

Of course there would be. It's logical they are going to be doing it.

 

[Reapersoul20]

Of course there would be. It's logical they are going to be doing it.

Yep. It's just shit that pricks with money can sway public opinion so much, so easily, for something so trivial.