Day 6: Wales vs Iran | Qatar vs Senegal | Netherlands vs Ecuador | England vs USA

[Offside]

USA are making it hard for England. What I can’t understand is that whenever England have taken risks they’ve had good chances to score - Why don’t you play like that all the time? Both teams far too cautious.

 

[phelans shorts]

Horrific is stretching it, it would have been 1-0 if not for a really dumb mistake.

It’s not, they were absolutely battered in that second half, to a team who just got destroyed by Iran.

The fact Wales didn’t score more isn’t a sign that the US were good, because they weren’t, at all.

 

[Denis79]

feck sake.

Outplayed by the yanks.

Can we just get rid of southgate now and appoint a proper manager.

Big Sam?

 

[GlasgowCeltic]

think we might see Phillips for Bellingham

 

[RedDevilRoshi]

If we bring in someone like Reyna at 60 minutes, he can keep the pressure up.

Why does he not play? Is he out of favour with Berhalter or does he play poorly for you guys hence can’t be trusted?

 

[Beaucoup]

Will he have the balls to change it? Will he feck as like

 

[Jazz]

I did.

I mean I thought they'd be more confident in their approach since on paper they're the better team? I know what the team is like especially with Southgate in charge but still..

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

USA the better team. Other than Mount’s shot, England have offered very little.

 

[the_cliff]

one concern with the defensive shape when US goes 433 ala Liverpool style defensive shape is the space between the mids and CBs....if mount can find that space it'll hurt us

Even if Mount finds the space, our problem is we have no one with the ability to find him in that space. It's how we've played since Southgate was manager, our fullbacks are tasked with bringing the ball forward and finding the passes, our 2 CBs and Rice are too slow and sideways with the ball, it's why Shaw always looks like our most dangerous player.

 

[DixieDean]

Southgate will quit after this WC ends in disaster.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

This was a return to the nations league England over the summer where we looked like we playing underwater.

Horrible.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Shaw and Maguire England's best players in this game. America should be ahead. One goal should be enough to win it for either side

 

[tjb]

A half wasted by negative play - England have the better side; if Southgate stops being so negative we will actually create chances.

All three chances have been created through fast passing, not lethargic side to side bollocks.

Do you think it's a choice????

England are struggling to build up. When they get past that phase, which has been rare, they can cut through the US.

England CB's have been poor moving the ball forward, Trippier hasn't been a good outlet. Neither Maguire or Stones are comfortable enough to swich.

Declane Rice isn't dropping deep to support their weak play, so it's ended up being tepid.

England want to control the game, but might start to realize, that whether they play with a 2 or 3, if you can't build up, you can't control a game

 

[Oranges038]

Is it me or does Declan Rice hide behind an opposition player when Stones and Maguire are trying to play it out?

He's been watching McT, learning from the best.

 

[Buster15]

England are missing the spark that Foden can bring. Stirling has done nothing.

 

[mitchmouse]

Need to get foden on

 

[Gandalf]

1 shot on target, but they should have had many more. Wales were hanging on there... Agree on the second half, the USA didn't do anything after the break.

Funny thing about out group is that it easily features the worst managers. Page, Southgate and Berhalter are all basically clueless tacticians. Page generally sticks to keeping it tight and waiting for Bale to make a bit of magic, ditto for Southgate with Kane and then Berhalter just tells his players to run around like maniacs and is surprised they keep conceding late goals.

 

[DevilRed]

Big Sam?

Was thinking tuchel but why not big sam.

Both are better than this shitshow of a manager.

 

[sport2793]

It’s not, they were absolutely battered in that second half, to a team who just got destroyed by Iran.

The fact Wales didn’t score more isn’t a sign that the US were good, because they weren’t, at all.

I feel like this isn't the first conversation on this forum where you have been wide of the mark.

 

[Toshey]

Shaw and Maguire best players for England.

USA with brave display, should be leading.

 

[RopersReturn]

Yet again no instructions coming from the technical area and this is where I have a problem with Southgate, where normally you’d change things tactically if it isn’t going well. Same old, he doesn’t know what to do when the games going against us.

 

[P-Ro]

The only good thing about that half is we get to see Roy Keane to say how shite they are at half time.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Shaw has been Englands best player and actually Maguire has been decent too.

The rest very poor

 

[redshaw]

We knew US would be full of running, England seem to be pacing themselves out a bit but have passed it back and delayed moves a lot and are allowing US to settle it a game of their own. I'm expecting England to have more joy after around 60 mins.

 

[Frank Grimes]

USA targeting Shaw.

 

[TheNewEra]

I think if Rashford comes on and another midfielder comes on for Mount it could be a different game

 

[phelans shorts]

I feel like this isn't the first conversation on this forum where you have been wide of the mark.

So you genuinely think USA weren’t awful in that second half? They were good, very good even first half of that game, but Wales were dominant in the second.

 

[Heinzesight]

Rashford has to come on

 

[DevilRed]

Get foden and rashford on ffs.

 

[gerdm07]

US > England thus far

 

[sport2793]

If Southgate had a brain he would put on Rashford and Foden, can't see our back line keeping up with the former especially.

 

[the_cliff]

Do you think it's a choice????

England are struggling to build up. When they get past that phase, which has been rare, they can cut through the US.

England CB's have been poor moving the ball forward, Trippier hasn't been a good outlet. Neither Maguire or Stones are comfortable enough to swich.

Declane Rice isn't dropping deep to support their weak play, so it's ended up being tepid.

England want to control the game, but might start to realize, that whether they play with a 2 or 3, if you can't build up, you can't control a game

Exactly. What I've been saying for a while. We have useless possession and it's always been like this against any decent set up. Shaw is our only player that seems to find a pass into the middle, it's what created our only shot on target.

 

[mitchmouse]

gary neville surprised that Maguire isn't marking his man... hardly news to us

 

[Offside]

England need to get Foden and Rashford on and they win this. Guarantee Southgate will take all year to get them on as his primary thought will be not losing.

 

[Tony247]

Even if England wins this match, there are clear concerns going forward.

 

[tjb]

England are missing the spark that Foden can bring. Stirling has done nothing.

Don't agree. the ball isn't even getting to that area of the pitch. Foden would end up just waiting for the ball. The ball is stuck in England's half and they cant progress it quick enough. A mistake would be to take off Saka, when the build up is the problem. TAA coming on for an outlet to the right might help things a bit. People here are praising Maguire, I actually think he's mostly responsible for the poor build up

 

[hellhunter]

How shit is Mason Mount?

Very.

@duffer

 

[Lecland07]

Do you think it's a choice????

England are struggling to build up. When they get past that phase, which has been rare, they can cut through the US.

England CB's have been poor moving the ball forward, Trippier hasn't been a good outlet. Neither Maguire or Stones are comfortable enough to swich.

Declane Rice isn't dropping deep to support their weak play, so it's ended up being tepid.

England want to control the game, but might start to realize, that whether they play with a 2 or 3, if you can't build up, you can't control a game

Yes - why did we suddenly start being proactive in the last few minutes of the first half? That comes from instruction. We created 2 or 3 chances in a few minutes once we changed it, but that was way too late in that half.

 

[90 + 5min]

To win against Iran full of emotions is totally different to play against USA. You can clearly see problems with the team starting with central midfilders. Zero, absolute zero control with Rice and Bellingham. England need to get rid of those two or put in extra central defender. Mount and Saka have been bad and Sterling is hiding.

 

[wangyu]

England is just very bad that is all.

no urgency, no cutting edge, no pace. 2nd round and out