My guess is it's both. We want De Gea to agree to much, much lower wages AND we're going to bring in a young #2 (Coton might be out looking for him).
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Ward dealt with one like Barnes from Weghorst differently by coming and closing the angle and making a close block. The save is class but it can be dealt with more easily with better positioning.
I agree
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Can't see him getting that anywhere else at this stage of his career. However it's a lot of money for what should be his role as No.2 as of next season.
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And he’s equaled Schmeichel’s clean sheet record with dire, makeshift back lines for most of his time at OT until this season.
You've just fabricated a scenario where Haaland is viewed as a bad striker because he takes few touches in the opposition box when that is just not a criticism he gets and is exactly what Pep demands from his number 9s. A more appropriate analogy would be Ronaldo being cast aside because his best attribute (goal scoring) has diminished to the level that it no longer compensates for his glaring weaknesses (inability not to be an insufferable w*nker, pressing and staying in the effin box).
Nobody has made the argument that he's been a shit shot stopper but notwithstanding that you do realise that De Gea has played over double the games that Schmeichel played for United.
He’s won the Man Utd player of the year 4 times. No player except Ronaldo has done this. Pretty amazing accolade just there.
De Gea is still one of, if not the best shot stopper in the league, so that analogy sucks. Did you watch the Courtois/Alisson masterclass yesterday? Kind of makes a mockery of all the tripe being spouted in this thread against De Gea.
Say what you want about Allison and Courtois but De Gea has made that exact same mistake before and it cost us a goal then.
Allison and Courtois have been there and done it at the highest level. Allison in particular has been a big factor in Liverpool developing a high intensity play style which has led to league championship and Champions league wins. He also makes saves, makes mistakes, but his all-round skillset has been a big factor in Klopp developing both a on the ball game and off the ball game in a league which demands high intensity at a very high level.
That's my point...they're all no different.
You really must be hurting right now.
It must be frustrating for you in your struggles to counter my criticisms towards your favourite player.
I'm not struggling at all. Your criticisms are lame (not worth countering), De Gea is playing every week and we are on fire right now. I don't know about you but I'm gassed right now.
He will still be no.1 next season
I'm not sure about being on fire but the playstyle in question is developing due to the outfield players and who the head coach is imo.
Right now I'd keep quiet about Allison!
He made a mistake and keepers make mistakes. But De Gea hasn't come close to the level Allison has reached where he's contributed to the development of a play style with and without the ball that has resulted in Liverpool winning the biggest honours in the game.
Yep you are right, the PL was only a big honour from 2017 onwards.
The PL is very different to the one 10 years ago due to the volume of very good coaching and the number of teams who defend from the front which makes the build up play difficult.
De Gea is a goalkeeper, his job is to keep the ball out of the net and he's pretty good at that, anything else is a bonus
Yes, massively.
Yes, no doubt about it.
You're really not going to give De Gea ANY credit are you? Dear Lord!
This is an outdated view. Play starts from the back, and keepers will be involved a lot in build up. Just like very few strikers can get away with just scoring goals, they have to defend too.
What game did you watch? Patently untrue.
genuinely think at this point there's nothing he can do to make you give him any credit. You're so dug in, it's ridiculous.He could rush off his line more often, be a more dominant and commanding presence when dealing with crosses and improve his ability in possession whilst making himself more available to receive the ball.
Not sure I was talking to you, but I guess the same applies. You're too invested in your narrative to give him credit. I'm not saying he doesn't have faults in his game, it's just amazing how many miserable sods seem to delight in coming to his thread after he's been good solely to shit on him.
It isn't a narrative. It's been staring me in the face for years unfortunately. Honestly, I take no pleasure in shitting on him. I'd take a lot more pleasure in him doing the things I've called him out on. Unfortunately, some of it comes down to a lack of personality and bravery as much as technique. He is who he is.
Couldnt have said it better myself
