who thinks we dont need a new defender and that wes brown and johnsen will do???
I'm happy if Johnsen stays fit, and I'm confident about O'Shea, but have to say, I'm not inspired by Wes. Brilliant start to his career, but prior to his injury he seemed to have faded a bit and not lived up to early promise.
Johnsen is 33 and very injury proned. Wes Brown has still some way to go before being considered as a true world class defender. When our team is full of stars who worth tens of millions pound in the midfield and up front, we should have at least one or two defender at the back who are at the same level. Ask any club who will want to spend 10 million to buy one of our defenders? There is certainly none. It is an indirect way to show you that we need something more at the back.
I'm a little confused about all this talk about our 'defensive problems'. There is no doubt that up to December, we were having problems, but look at our record over the past 22 games compared to what is supposedly the best defence in the premiership............i'll stick the goals scored column in as a matter of interest.
Man Utd....
Played..22
Goals against..19
Goals for..59
Liverpool....
Played..22
Goals against..17
Goals for..33
Comparing these 2 records, which would you prefer??????
Man Utd....
Played..22
Goals against..19
Goals for..59
Liverpool....
Played..22
Goals against..17
Goals for..33
Comparing these 2 records, which would you prefer??????
Originally posted by roxyfella:
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Man Utd....
Played..22
Goals against..19
Goals for..59
Liverpool....
Played..22
Goals against..17
Goals for..33
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I like the look of that,
Originally posted by roxyfella:
<strong>I'm a little confused about all this talk about our 'defensive problems'. There is no doubt that up to December, we were having problems, but look at our record over the past 22 games compared to what is supposedly the best defence in the premiership............i'll stick the goals scored column in as a matter of interest.
Man Utd....
Played..22
Goals against..19
Goals for..59
Liverpool....
Played..22
Goals against..17
Goals for..33
Comparing these 2 records, which would you prefer??????
And Arsenal's densive record.
The problem is more simple than obsessing over Liverpool. We let 2 in against Derby and 3 against West Ham. We won't be able to be so profligate against the Real Madrids and Barcelonas.
Originally posted by Travis Bickle:
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And Arsenal's densive record.
The problem is more simple than obsessing over Liverpool. We let 2 in against Derby and 3 against West Ham. We won't be able to be so profligate against the Real Madrids and Barcelonas.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Perhaps we should sign 4 bricklayers to play in defence, they could then build a brick wall in front of the goal.....thats the only way to guarantee not letting in goals.
Here's Arsenals by the way....
Played..22
Goals against..24
Goals for..42
I thank yew.
Originally posted by roxyfella:
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Here's Arsenals by the way....
Played..22
Goals against..24
Goals for..42
I thank yew.
Nice one Roxy,back to you Travis
Just to add the these stats, clean sheets over the 22 game run are as follows........
Man Utd..9
Liverpool..11
Arsenal..4
Now could someone please explain these defensive problems we keep hearing about? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Man Utd..9
Liverpool..11
Arsenal..4
Now could someone please explain these defensive problems we keep hearing about? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Originally posted by roxyfella:
<strong>Just to add the these stats, clean sheets over the 22 game run are as follows........
Man Utd..9
Liverpool..11
Arsenal..4
Now could someone please explain these defensive problems we keep hearing about?
No doubt we have got better. But conceding three against West Ham is worrying - no use pretending otherwise. We do need to tighten up. We'll be meeting teams with better defences than West Ham's - and until we do start beating our main rivals, we can't be complacent.
And if it's still down to individual errors still - well, that's just as worrying.
Originally posted by stoned.rose:
<strong>You should have named this topic FAO Itchy.
He thinks we need 8 new defenders.</strong><hr></blockquote>
more concise,
8 new defenders: Only young goodlooking Italians need apply. Scruffy old Frenchmen need not.
1 new attacker:
2 new midfielders: A Giggs & Keane that will be happy on the bench.
1 new goalkeeper: Someone better than the man who has won it all bar the FA cup
1 new assistent manager: Hitzfield or Capello
4 new coaches: Ditto
1 new tea lady: Jamioe Oliver perhaps
1 new pitch: Hand sewn by naked exotic beauties
Hes also wants a new stadium but doesnt want to ask for too much.
Originally posted by stoned.rose:
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You should have named this topic FAO Itchy.
He thinks we need 8 new defenders.</strong><hr></blockquote>
4 to be precise.
Originally posted by roxyfella:
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I thank yew.
So Arsenal have only played 22 games this season?
Originally posted by roxyfella:
<strong>I'm a little confused about all this talk about our 'defensive problems'. There is no doubt that up to December, we were having problems, but look at our record over the past 22 games compared to what is supposedly the best defence in the premiership............i'll stick the goals scored column in as a matter of interest.
Man Utd....
Played..22
Goals against..19
Goals for..59
Liverpool....
Played..22
Goals against..17
Goals for..33
Comparing these 2 records, which would you prefer??????
Why you only list out the stat in the recent 22 matches, when we were facing relatively easier opponents during this period? You should see thing as a whole and list the stat for the whole season!
And it is really, really amazing that there are so many people who think our defence don't need to add any new player.
If we really lost the title this season, or if we are beaten by Deport again because of poor defending or any defensive error, hope people such as roxyfella, Murt etc. won't be so thick skin to come back and say we need to get a new defender in the summer!