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Sad news. Praying for him and his family. Don’t know much about how it’s managed, can modern treatments reduce the severity or speed ?
I wish I was there that day! Was my local!I met Dennis and Nobby in Safeway carpark in Chorlton in the 90s. Funny guys and time for the ordinary folk of Manchester.
Dementia is a horrific disease.
Im not an expert on either illness but to me the big difference is that until cancer becomes untreatable and/or terminal, something thankfully we are seeing less of, and its not in the brain, it is an illness where at least one knows where one stands. Im a former cancer patient and while I was being treated I was able to live my life pretty normally before getting the "all clear" some years ago. With dimentia it seems that it very quickly starts to infringe upon your life, your memories etc and for this at present there is no remedy, no stopping it as with terrible speed and finality it shreds you of your memories, consciousness, perception and dignity. With cancer there is always the possibility of taking matters into your own hands, but dimentia takes away even that. Cancer is a terrible illness but I would rather that than dimentia.Same. Probably assisted suicide for me. Same if i get terminal cancer. Dont know which is worst dementia or cancer.
Im not an expert on either illness but to me the big difference is that until cancer becomes untreatable and/or terminal, something thankfully we are seeing less of, and its not in the brain, it is an illness where at least one knows where one stands. Im a former cancer patient and while I was being treated I was able to live my life pretty normally before getting the "all clear" some years ago. With dimentia it seems that it very quickly starts to infringe upon your life, your memories etc and for this at present there is no remedy, no stopping it as with terrible speed and finality it shreds you of your memories, consciousness, perception and dignity. With cancer there is always the possibility of taking matters into your own hands, but dimentia takes away even that. Cancer is a terrible illness but I would rather that than dimentia.
Dementia surely, if it gets serious, you cant even remember some family or treasured memories. At least with cancer you get to live and remember the times spent with the family.Same. Probably assisted suicide for me. Same if i get terminal cancer. Dont know which is worst dementia or cancer.
Dementia surely, if it gets serious, you cant even remember some family or treasured memories. At least with cancer you get to live and remember the times spent with the family.
Now that you have highlighted that to me, i retract me previous statement.You see people dont understand the pain one is in towards the end with cancer. People (not you) cannot emphatize with the pain people are in when the cancer is growing into their organs or growing into their bones. I had a tooth infected once that had to be pulled and the pain was about a 9 out of 10. I could not even sleep with it. Imagine that pain all over your body non stop. The end as well of terminal cancer is similar to dementia where you are lying in bed out of it soiling yourself non stop.
The only thing that can maybe help is morphine or a similar opoid, but they can only give you so much.
Luckily i am going to die or a heart attack or stroke. Painful as well but over in minutes.
I am being philosophical but is life worth it in the end? Is the life of a gazelle worth being eaten alive by a pack of hyenas at the end?
Edit: I recall reading an answer to the pain on cancer on quora so maybe if you google it, you might find it.
We used to hang about Old Trafford during the early 60's during school holidays and try and get autographs. Dennis came out of the players entrance and all the kids gathered round, he got us all to line up in orderely fashion and signed everyone's autograph book. Fantastic player, legend and I wish him and his family all the best.
True enough, theres no good way to go unless you can decide when that time has come, and with Dimentia that choice is taken from you as your brain and mind deteriorates. I hope I go long before that happens.The pain of terminal cancer though i have read is terrible. Growing into your bones and spine and all sorts of other stuff. Not that i know much about either.
Dementia i agree is horrible. Just to be soiling yourself all the time.
To be honest, when it is your time, any illness must be terrible. I recall schopenhauer saying life was not worth it because of the end.
You see people dont understand the pain one is in towards the end with cancer. People (not you) cannot emphatize with the pain people are in when the cancer is growing into their organs or growing into their bones. I had a tooth infected once that had to be pulled and the pain was about a 9 out of 10. I could not even sleep with it. Imagine that pain all over your body non stop. The end as well of terminal cancer is similar to dementia where you are lying in bed out of it soiling yourself non stop.
The only thing that can maybe help is morphine or a similar opoid, but they can only give you so much.
Luckily i am going to die or a heart attack or stroke. Painful as well but over in minutes.
I am being philosophical but is life worth it in the end? Is the life of a gazelle worth being eaten alive by a pack of hyenas at the end?
Edit: I recall reading an answer to the pain on cancer on quora so maybe if you google it, you might find it.
United have in fact had 6 players from the 1967/68 squad diagnosed with Dimentia; Denis, Nobby, Tony Dunne, David Herd, Bobby Charlton and Bill Foulkes, thats a terrible toll.First Sir Bobby, now Denis Horrible, horrible news.
My dad died of cancer in Crumpsall Hospital. The attending doctor told the nurse to administer as much diamorphine as he needed 'and then some.' That man eased my father's passing. I knew full what the law would say (this was in the 1970s) but, as God is my witness, I would never have testified against him. To see my dad reduced to a living skeleton and so sick he couldn't even cry for help has haunted me. I hope if I'm ever in that state, that some kind medic will cut it short for me.
United have in fact had 6 players from the 1967/68 squad diagnosed with Dimentia; Denis, Nobby, Tony Dunne, David Herd, Bobby Charlton and Bill Foulkes, thats a terrible toll.
As much as I loved Fergies teams the 60s were extra special, probably because I was very young, the travelling involved in getting to the matches, the sheer excitement of being there, the players, the matches themselves....priceless memories.Saw them all play too. We idolized those players back then. My abiding memory of Denis Law was the game against Forest in the run-in to the title in 1967. It 0-0 and Forest's goalie was playing a blinder. He turned a shot from Denis round the post with his fingertips. From the resulting corner, Law did one of his famous bicycle kicks to score the winner.
My dad died from cancer, my mum has alzheimers, I think alzheimers is worse in every way. Just my opinion though.You see people dont understand the pain one is in towards the end with cancer. People (not you) cannot emphatize with the pain people are in when the cancer is growing into their organs or growing into their bones. I had a tooth infected once that had to be pulled and the pain was about a 9 out of 10. I could not even sleep with it. Imagine that pain all over your body non stop. The end as well of terminal cancer is similar to dementia where you are lying in bed out of it soiling yourself non stop.
The only thing that can maybe help is morphine or a similar opoid, but they can only give you so much.
Luckily i am going to die or a heart attack or stroke. Painful as well but over in minutes.
I am being philosophical but is life worth it in the end? Is the life of a gazelle worth being eaten alive by a pack of hyenas at the end?
Edit: I recall reading an answer to the pain on cancer on quora so maybe if you google it, you might find it.
My dad died from cancer, my mum has alzheimers, I think alzheimers is worse in every way. Just my opinion though.
My dad died from cancer, my mum has alzheimers, I think alzheimers is worse in every way. Just my opinion though.
There is compared to living your last years before you die as though you are mad, not being able to speak, eat, go to the toilet, remember,or do absolutely anything normal not recognise your own children or the dog you have owned for 10 years etc.There is no good way to die really.
He was bedridden in the final stages, didn't talk much, when he did it didn't make any sense.Was he in pain, if you dont mind me asking?
Stan Bowles was only 66. I'm 64 next weekThere's also Gordon McQueen who was diagnosed with dementia back in January. He's only 69.
There is compared to living your last years before you die as though you are mad, not being able to speak, eat, go to the toilet, remember,or do absolutely anything normal not recognise your own children or the dog you have owned for 10 years etc.