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https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-features/devs-creator-alex-garland-interview-980235/

Was Forest’s original plan always to project himself into the machine at the end?
It’s always his plan, because this is how he gets to actually be with his daughter again, rather than just watch his daughter. The thing that changes for Forest is that he has adhered to a view of quantum mechanics that does not include many worlds. There’s just one world, which means he can recreate his daughter exactly as she was, and rejoin his life exactly as it was without the car crash happening. What he is forced to accept in the end is that there will be versions of him that can experience that, but also versions that will not experience that. So he has a more poignant end result than the one he was looking for.

So even though he believes in determinism, Forest was going to be able to craft a version of reality that was exactly the same except for the car crash, and go there?
That’s exactly right. In effect, what he’d be able to do is rejoin that timeline, but not make the phone call to his wife and not, therefore, be the cause of the car crash. And then he’d be able to experience the unfolding of his life exactly as if the thing never happened. And within that state, it would be a world of equal status to the world that you and I are talking in right now. The problem is that the world is not the simple, deterministic world he wants it to be. So he has to accept a different version.
 

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I actually wish they had spent more time in showing other hellish versions of other universes that Forest and Lily ended up in.
That could be one of the best Twilight Zone episode ever. Would love to see a version where system starts to glitch out and Forest has to live through it... his wife suddenly wakes up and she has no arms and Amaya falls inside the earth, or Jamie playing Dark Souls and his character in the game is Kenton fighting with main boss which is statue of Amaya plus homeless Pete becomes a senator.
 

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That could be one of the best Twilight Zone episode ever. Would love to see a version where system starts to glitch out and Forest has to live through it... his wife suddenly wakes up and she has no arms and Amaya falls inside the earth, or Jamie playing Dark Souls and his character in the game is Kenton fighting with main boss which is statue of Amaya plus homeless Pete becomes a senator.
A version(s) of Forest did live through it as Linden's principle meant his consciousness was simultaneously planted into all existing versions of universe simulations at that point. They did not clarify this part but did Katie had the option to switch between different worlds in Dues?
 

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A version(s) of Forest did live through it as Linden's principle meant his consciousness was simultaneously planted into all existing versions of universe simulations at that point. They did not clarify this part but did Katie had the option to switch between different worlds in Dues?
I guess everything depends how much information the box can store and according to Stewart it contains everything and everyone including Amaya. It's still a computer with interface and somekind of a software so at some point Katie became unintentionally God of the simulation providing basis for it's stability and watching outside it's space and time with Forest having some of that illusion of free will, living his life and making so called new choices as he knows the entire thing is another chance given to him.

She probably could watch other versions as machine can pick up variations and distortions, though it also could still be a fixed program prepared by Forest before entering simulation. They indeed didn't explained much how it's working and what are capabilities of that quantum computer model.
 

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A version(s) of Forest did live through it as Linden's principle meant his consciousness was simultaneously planted into all existing versions of universe simulations at that point. They did not clarify this part but did Katie had the option to switch between different worlds in Dues?
BTW, since last episode is available Alex Garland can finally spill the beans about everything, including what his scientist buddies suggested when ending the series with all this transcendental jazz with downloading memories on hard drive.

Not so long a go there were conspiracy theories circulating that elites already have that technology, so I'm wondering if Alex considered picking upon that and tried to implement it in a sci-fi show.
 

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BTW, since last episode is available Alex Garland can finally spill the beans about everything, including what his scientist buddies suggested when ending the series with all this transcendental jazz with downloading memories on hard drive.

Not so long a go there were conspiracy theories circulating that elites already have that technology, so I'm wondering if Alex considered picking upon that and tried to implement it in a sci-fi show.
I posted an interview above.
 

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So is there a Devs simulator inside that simulation?
 

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Just finished binging this. It was all shades of brilliant. Garland is just fantastic. Superbly original show.