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Renewed his contract. We’ve been heavily linked with him recently. A €75m release clause though.

 

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We aren't paying that.
 

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He's worth it.
United can sell Henderson, Donny, Elanga, Williams, Tuanzebe, Telles, Bailly, AWB (+ maybe Pellistri). It won't be a lot, but at least something.
Plus Ronaldo and Jones will leave on a free + maybe (and hopefully) De Gea.
A lot of wages off the books.

I'd like a new midfielder, but if it is just a GK and a striker, so be it. But we have to buy this guy. We will regret if we won't.
 

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He's worth it.
United can sell Henderson, Donny, Elanga, Williams, Tuanzebe, Telles, Bailly, AWB (+ maybe Pellistri). It won't be a lot, but at least something.
Plus Ronaldo and Jones will leave on a free + maybe (and hopefully) De Gea.
A lot of wages off the books.

I'd like a new midfielder, but if it is just a GK and a striker, so be it. But we have to buy this guy. We will regret if we won't.
 

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He's worth it.
United can sell Henderson, Donny, Elanga, Williams, Tuanzebe, Telles, Bailly, AWB (+ maybe Pellistri). It won't be a lot, but at least something.
Plus Ronaldo and Jones will leave on a free + maybe (and hopefully) De Gea.
A lot of wages off the books.

I'd like a new midfielder, but if it is just a GK and a striker, so be it. But we have to buy this guy. We will regret if we won't.
We should definitely pay it. Spend big on him and a striker. Re-call Hannibal and Laird, promote Mainoo and sell the deadwood.
 

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He had a 60 million euro release clause previously.
He only signed it so Porto could get extra bang for their buck.
They know he's off otherwise they would have put a massive release clause in.
 

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I think a potential transfer fee could be negotiated between both Porto and a would be buyer. I think the contract extension safe guards Porto and gives them leverage in negotiations with interested parties.

Costa and Dalot (two Diogo's) both came through together at Porto and seem to be good friends. So hopefully that can help us in some way.

 

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That’s the end of that. 75m for him would be outrageous when we still need a midfielder and attacker
 

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Keeper over a midfielder for me. We won't be signing Bellingham and we already have a couple of young midfielders to integrate.
Far more chance of us winning a title with De Gea as a starter in goal than Eriksen as a starter in CM in my opinion. I’d stick another RB/CB above keeper. Maybe even a second attacker if martial doesn’t prove his fitness before the end of the season.
 

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Far more chance of us winning a title with De Gea as a starter in goal than Eriksen as a starter in CM in my opinion. I’d stick another RB/CB above keeper. Maybe even a second attacker if martial doesn’t prove his fitness before the end of the season.
I'm not really convinced that we will win a title with either as a starter to be honest. I have a lot of confidence in Kobbie Mainoo stepping up, so I don't value a midfield upgrade as highly as others. Two strikers is a necessity in my opinion, regardless of what's going on with Martial.
 

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I'm not really convinced that we will win a title with either as a starter to be honest. I have a lot of confidence in Kobbie Mainoo stepping up, so I don't value a midfield upgrade as highly as others. Two strikers is a necessity in my opinion, regardless of what's going on with Martial.
Love Mainoo but even best case he’s still years away from being in a position to start for a team winning trophies. ETH doesn’t have those years to wait.
 

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Love Mainoo but even best case he’s still years away from being in a position to start for a team winning trophies. ETH doesn’t have those years to wait.
I think that Mainoo can contribute next season as cover/competition for Eriksen. If that is too slow a succession plan, then I'm not sure who could come in meanwhile as an Eriksen upgrade. I don't see us signing Bellingham.
 

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To the Vandevoordt thread, then! Divorcing him from his weird Leipzig contract (that starts in 2024) will probably be much more friendly on the pocket than activating Diogo's new release clause.

And he's not outrageously young or unproven; close to 100 appearances for Genk, and we signed de Gea at a comparable age...
"I went to see him in 2003 for Rennes," Ferguson wrote in Leading. "We thought Petr was a bit young for the bruisers of the Premier League. He was 19 at the time and I said to myself, 'He's too young'. "So age doesn't matter when you have the ability of a goalkeeper like Petr Čech or, we know, David de Gea has." In 2010, Ferguson voted Čech as the best goalkeeper in Europe.
What Manchester United great Sir Alex Ferguson said about Petr Čech.
 

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To the Vandevoordt thread, then! Divorcing him from his weird Leipzig contract (that starts in 2024) will probably be much more friendly on the pocket than activating Diogo's new release clause.

And he's not outrageously young or unproven; close to 100 appearances for Genk, and we signed de Gea at a comparable age...

What Manchester United great Sir Alex Ferguson said about Petr Čech.
I think divorcing both Vandervoordt and Sesko from their RB Leipzig contracts would be shrewd moves imo.

Vandervoordt has enormous potential for a young keeper and Sesko might not have the scoring record for a player of his potential right now, but his touch and technique is of a very high level for a young striker. And a players foundation revolves around their first touch and technique, which in the long-term determines how high their ceiling will be. Lewansowski was still playing in the Polish second tier at Sesko's age.
 

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Ah shit. We can't afford 75m for him along with a striker. Reckon we extend de Gea on lower wages, go big on a striker like Felix and a midfielder like frenkie and then go for diogo Costa in 2023 or 2024 then.
 

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I think divorcing both Vandervoordt and Sesko from their RB Leipzig contracts would be shrewd moves imo.

Vandervoordt has enormous potential for a young keeper and Sesko might not have the scoring record for a player of his potential right now, but his touch and technique is of a very high level for a young striker. And a players foundation revolves around their first touch and technique, which in the long-term determines how high their ceiling will be. Lewansowski was still playing in the Polish second tier at Sesko's age.
Aye, wouldn't be opposed to either of those moves; they're likely to be reasonably priced while earning modest wages to begin with (and could be exceptionally rewarding over the long term as they have their entire careers ahead of them). As you pointed out, both Vandervoordt and Seško possess the technical characteristics to develop into quality performers over the coming years — just a matter of harnessing their potential, and being steadfast through the ebbs and flows of the process. Really hope ten Hag will have the assurances to embark on such a journey — nothing better than signing a few talented youngsters, and watching them blossom into genuine difference-makers for your club. And we have a handful of accomplished veterans or inspirational leaders to provide guidance and steer impressionable youngsters in the right direction, too (which is something we've lacked at certain points in the post-Fergie era): Casemiro, Eriksen, Varane, Martínez, et cetera — three of those would be especially pertinent for an emergent custodian like Vandervoordt as they'd nominally station themselves right in front of him.
 

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Aye, wouldn't be opposed to either of those moves; they're likely to be reasonably priced while earning modest wages to begin with (and could be exceptionally rewarding over the long term as they have their entire careers ahead of them). As you pointed out, both Vandervoordt and Seško possess the technical characteristics to develop into quality performers over the coming years — just a matter of harnessing their potential, and being steadfast through the ebbs and flows of the process. Really hope ten Hag will have the assurances to embark on such a journey — nothing better than signing a few talented youngsters, and watching them blossom into genuine difference-makers for your club. And we have a handful of accomplished veterans or inspirational leaders to provide guidance and steer impressionable youngsters in the right direction, too (which is something we've lacked at certain points in the post-Fergie era): Casemiro, Eriksen, Varane, Martínez, et cetera — three of those would be especially pertinent for an emergent custodian like Vandervoordt as they'd nominally station themselves right in front of him.
Completely agree.

And like you say, the modest wages which Vandervoordt and Sesko will likely demand, will save us a considerable amount in the mid to long-term in comparison to the players they will come in to replace. And that might even allow us to sign a young deep roaming playmaker like Enzo Fernandez from Benfica.
 

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I think if there's a limited budget and the priority is a striker, then it could be argued that it makes even more sense to sell Henderson and release DdG. Which could bring in around £20m for selling Henderson and we'd be getting £500k a week off the wage bill.

And if we factor in Ronaldo leaving aswell, then that's a £ million a week off the wage bill and we've also potentially received £20m for Henderson via a transfer fee.

So signing a new keeper by just moving both Henderson and DdG on, would possibly leave more funds for a striker.
Err.. surely keeping DDG and not buying a new keeper would leave more funds for a striker. Henderson is (most likely) gone either way.
 

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Err.. surely keeping DDG and not buying a new keeper would leave more funds for a striker. Henderson is (most likely) gone either way.
I think wiping the wages of both De Gea and Henderson off the books along with getting a transfer fee for Henderson, would save us around £25m in wages and bring in a additional 15m to 20m via a transfer fee. And that should be enough to fund a new keeper. And a new keeper likely won't be getting anywhere close to the wages that we'll possibly be removing from the wage bill. So in the mid to long-term, we'll not only save money but also have potentially a superior keeper who is adept at evading the press against high pressing teams, and also be alot more commanding and proactive when it comes to defending the box.

Then if we also factor in the possible sales of Maguire and Wan Bissaka and also offload the wages of Ronaldo, Jones, Bailly etc. Then I think we should be able to sign about 3 or 4 players imo.

I hope we don't get fixated on singular targets who are valued north of a 100m, and instead focus on bringing in players like Sesko, Vandervoordt, Enzo Fernandez and a young CB with the potential to eventually takeover from Varane.
 

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Ah shit. We can't afford 75m for him along with a striker. Reckon we extend de Gea on lower wages, go big on a striker like Felix and a midfielder like frenkie and then go for diogo Costa in 2023 or 2024 then.
This sounds likely. Striker is our biggest need right now, and ETH still needs his metronome midfielder.

Costa seems as the real deal, and I’ll really like us to get him.
 

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His release clause is 75M, but Porto are not in a financial position to reject lower offers than that
 

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I think wiping the wages of both De Gea and Henderson off the books along with getting a transfer fee for Henderson, would save us around £25m in wages and bring in a additional 15m to 20m via a transfer fee. And that should be enough to fund a new keeper. And a new keeper likely won't be getting anywhere close to the wages that we'll possibly be removing from the wage bill. So in the mid to long-term, we'll not only save money but also have potentially a superior keeper who is adept at evading the press against high pressing teams, and also be alot more commanding and proactive when it comes to defending the box.

Then if we also factor in the possible sales of Maguire and Wan Bissaka and also offload the wages of Ronaldo, Jones, Bailly etc. Then I think we should be able to sign about 3 or 4 players imo.

I hope we don't get fixated on singular targets who are valued north of a 100m, and instead focus on bringing in players like Sesko, Vandervoordt, Enzo Fernandez and a young CB with the potential to eventually takeover from Varane.
That would mean we need two goalkeepers not just one, unless we plan on loaning again. I don't see any real quality in the reserve/youth set up ready to step up just yet.

Can't see United letting two keepers go in one window, more than likely get De Gea to stay for one more season, and hope that Costa comes the summer after but I could be wrong as EtH may just want a complete rebuild of the backline.
 

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Keeper over a midfielder for me. We won't be signing Bellingham and we already have a couple of young midfielders to integrate.
There's outstanding talents available at keeper (costa) and midfield (Enzo Fernandez) at expensive but gettable prices now. We need a keeper who can play from the back and Diogo Costa is outstanding at this and his penalty record is insane too. Fernandez is spoken about as the next Kroos. Both players were we to sign them would be potentially available for us for ten years.

Although CF is our biggest priority, the CF market isn't actually that strong right now and we're bound to overpay and so I would make the signings at those other two positions and seek a more inexpensive option at CF in the immediate term.
 

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There's outstanding talents available at keeper (costa) and midfield (Enzo Fernandez) at expensive but gettable prices now. We need a keeper who can play from the back and Diogo Costa is outstanding at this and his penalty record is insane too. Fernandez is spoken about as the next Kroos. Both players were we to sign them would be potentially available for us for ten years.

Although CF is our biggest priority, the CF market isn't actually that strong right now and we're bound to overpay and so I would make the signings at those other two positions and seek a more inexpensive option at CF in the immediate term.
Good idea!!!

Gakpo, Sesko and Moukoko are all relatively cheap.
 

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If we can tie down Ddg to a more reasonable contract then I think we should see how Vitek progresses rather than drop 75m on a goalkeeper right now, we need a striker and midfield depth more.

I've seen Vitek a few times and he seems to have the qualities ETH wants.
 

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If we can tie down Ddg to a more reasonable contract then I think we should see how Vitek progresses rather than drop 75m on a goalkeeper right now, we need a striker and midfield depth more.

I've seen Vitek a few times and he seems to have the qualities ETH wants.
We'd be waiting a few more years for Vitek to be ready I'd imagine though.

Still very young and raw, Costa is a few years older and plenty more experience.

It's a case of whether we are willing to wait for another piece of the puzzle, or whether we want to complete that puzzle now.
 

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There's outstanding talents available at keeper (costa) and midfield (Enzo Fernandez) at expensive but gettable prices now. We need a keeper who can play from the back and Diogo Costa is outstanding at this and his penalty record is insane too. Fernandez is spoken about as the next Kroos. Both players were we to sign them would be potentially available for us for ten years.

Although CF is our biggest priority, the CF market isn't actually that strong right now and we're bound to overpay and so I would make the signings at those other two positions and seek a more inexpensive option at CF in the immediate term.
Yeah I like what I have seen of Diogo Costa and he would be my first choice for that position. I have seen significantly less of Fernandez, so I can't really judge. Moises Caicedo looks an interesting player to me, but again, very expensive in relation to our supposed lack of funds.

I assumed that we would be committing a huge amount of money towards a striker, with a goalkeeper the next big addition. Bellingham just doesn't fit into that in my view. I am intrigued by Youssoufa Moukoko and feel that he is too big a talent to miss out on. With his contract expiring in the Summer, hopefully we can tempt Dortmund with a January bid or at least get the wheels in motion with his representatives. Due to Martial's inability to stay fit, I feel that we are in a unique position to our rivals in that we can offer Moukoko a real pathway into our first team. Chelsea are the only other major club I can see who could maybe offer the same, but they reportedly have a deal for Nkunku done and dusted. Should we get a cheap deal for Moukoko sorted, then the majority of funds could be re-allocated towards a central midfielder or a long term Varane replacement.
 

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Yeah I like what I have seen of Diogo Costa and he would be my first choice for that position. I have seen significantly less of Fernandez, so I can't really judge. Moises Caicedo looks an interesting player to me, but again, very expensive in relation to our supposed lack of funds.

I assumed that we would be committing a huge amount of money towards a striker, with a goalkeeper the next big addition. Bellingham just doesn't fit into that in my view. I am intrigued by Youssoufa Moukoko and feel that he is too big a talent to miss out on. With his contract expiring in the Summer, hopefully we can tempt Dortmund with a January bid or at least get the wheels in motion with his representatives. Due to Martial's inability to stay fit, I feel that we are in a unique position to our rivals in that we can offer Moukoko a real pathway into our first team. Chelsea are the only other major club I can see who could maybe offer the same, but they reportedly have a deal for Nkunku done and dusted. Should we get a cheap deal for Moukoko sorted, then the majority of funds could be re-allocated towards a central midfielder or a long term Varane replacement.
I loved the Caicedo links when we were originally interested in him but I'm not sure he would be the best complement to our current midfield composition. Now that we have Casemiro, I think we need someone else who is a bit more progressive like either of the two Enzos (Fernandez or Le Fee)with the Argentinian by far my preference. Think Moukoko would be a great option for us too.

Diogo Costa is such a rare talent and is great at everything DDG is bad at, passing with his feet, coming off his line for high claims and sweeping. Not to mention penalites. Don't know anything about the Ghent keeper mentioned above to know if he has those attributes too.
 

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We'd be waiting a few more years for Vitek to be ready I'd imagine though.

Still very young and raw, Costa is a few years older and plenty more experience.

It's a case of whether we are willing to wait for another piece of the puzzle, or whether we want to complete that puzzle now.
4 year age gap with Costa having less than 100 games under his belt, we need to loan Vitek out so he develops properly (we've failed miserably with our loans recently so I'm not too hopeful).

I think we can wait 3 years until De Gea is 35 and Vitek 22, by that point Vitek should have played a similar amount of games as Costa currently has, if Vitek hasn't progressed as hoped, then fork out 75m for Costa (not sure many teams could or would pay that much for him in the meantime).

I just think we have more pressing issues to deal with in our squad, replacing De Gea isn't as desperately need as replacing our non existent striker force or lack of midfield depth.
 

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Think we will probably give DDG a 2+1 year deal at lower wages and see how the market progresses.

DDG (hopefully) has plenty of life in the tank as seen by this year.
 

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4 year age gap with Costa having less than 100 games under his belt, we need to loan Vitek out so he develops properly (we've failed miserably with our loans recently so I'm not too hopeful).

I think we can wait 3 years until De Gea is 35 and Vitek 22, by that point Vitek should have played a similar amount of games as Costa currently has, if Vitek hasn't progressed as hoped, then fork out 75m for Costa (not sure many teams could or would pay that much for him in the meantime).

I just think we have more pressing issues to deal with in our squad, replacing De Gea isn't as desperately need as replacing our non existent striker force or lack of midfield depth.
My one worry with waiting would be if Costa was to go somewhere else.
Could see Atletico losing Oblak soon, Spurs heavily rumoured to be sniffing around, they'd also be losing Felix soon as well so will probably have cash floating around.

I agree we need a striker and a midfielder before a GK, but we have a golden opportunity to get a young keeper who seems the real deal for what I deem to be a decent price.
We could have a similar situation to De Gea on our hands whereby we get 10 years of service out of the guy, in which case £65/70m is a steal.
 

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I loved the Caicedo links when we were originally interested in him but I'm not sure he would be the best complement to our current midfield composition. Now that we have Casemiro, I think we need someone else who is a bit more progressive like either of the two Enzos (Fernandez or Le Fee)with the Argentinian by far my preference. Think Moukoko would be a great option for us too.

Diogo Costa is such a rare talent and is great at everything DDG is bad at, passing with his feet, coming off his line for high claims and sweeping. Not to mention penalites. Don't know anything about the Ghent keeper mentioned above to know if he has those attributes too.
I'll be a bit disappointed to see Caicedo end up at a rival, but I agree in the sense that the signing of Casemiro means that we should probably look for a different profile of midfielder. I do have a lot of faith in Hannibal and Mainoo stepping up and wouldn't be too disappointed if we chose to prioritise them instead of pursuing a signing. Though admittedly I haven't seen an awful lot of Enzo Fernandez, so that could alter my opinion.

Agreed, Diogo Costa is a no brainer for me and looks a natural at the things that De Gea is still attempting to learn. I can't comment on the Ghent keeper either unfortunately.
 

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My one worry with waiting would be if Costa was to go somewhere else.
Could see Atletico losing Oblak soon, Spurs heavily rumoured to be sniffing around, they'd also be losing Felix soon as well so will probably have cash floating around.

I agree we need a striker and a midfielder before a GK, but we have a golden opportunity to get a young keeper who seems the real deal for what I deem to be a decent price.
We could have a similar situation to De Gea on our hands whereby we get 10 years of service out of the guy, in which case £65/70m is a steal.
I don't think any club that isn't one of the richest in the world will be forking out 75m for a keeper, Barca are broke, Real have Courtois, PSG have Donnaruma, Liverpool have Alisson, City have Ederson and Bayern won't drop that much on a GK.

Could perhaps see Spurs signing Oblak and Atletico signing Costa but I doubt Spurs would pay what Atletico would want for Oblak, even if Oblak would agree to go to Spurs in the first place.

I agree that Costa looks good (I've only seen highlights tbf) but I think we're in a decent position to wait on the GK front at the moment having seen Costa himself sign a new deal with Porto, meaning he's probably happy to wait a few years, De Gea improving on what ETH wants him to and being young enough to persist with for 3 years.

The most unlikely thing to happen is for Vitek to "make it" and become a starter here, in that case 75m for a 26 year old Costa in 2025 would then be great business as he'd have a lot more experience, and we'd have hopefully sorted out attack and midfield out by then.
 
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