Not really, there was no reason to believe we would win going into the game.
Does that top the list for worst defeat you can remember?
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Yes, and No. Starting alongside the "big boys" in the Champions League next season after continually flirting one spot above relegation would have been a joke anyway (Spurs, no different). Some of our performances in the League have been more abject than this performance.
However, in terms of the financial impact, this is the worst moment in our entire existence in the PL, closely matched by the Glazer takeover in 2005. It is incredibly difficult for us to finish in the top half of the table next season as well, let alone in the top six.
We need to sell/buy nearly the entire squad along with the manager - with no takers for the flops and no money for new recruits. Tough times.
However, in terms of the financial impact, this is the worst moment in our entire existence in the PL, closely matched by the Glazer takeover in 2005. It is incredibly difficult for us to finish in the top half of the table next season as well, let alone in the top six.
We need to sell/buy nearly the entire squad along with the manager - with no takers for the flops and no money for new recruits. Tough times.
I can’t remember ever us having lost a final before thinking that the other team didn’t have to play well to beat us. Spurs were abject last night and a decent side, maybe not even as good as decent, would have spanked them, but we offered less than nothing whilst somehow conspiring to gift a team who didn’t have a sigle shot on target (or one if you really believe Johnson’s should count, I’m not sure it does) a goal.
There are definitely some worst defeats in recent times, but in terms of a final I can’t remember anything as bitter as that.
There are definitely some worst defeats in recent times, but in terms of a final I can’t remember anything as bitter as that.
I can take losing a final because sometimes you get beat by a better team or sometimes it's just not your day.
But last night was gutting because we never even really gave it a go. Waiting until the 65-70th minute before even making a substitution was baffling. If you are going to change things up you've got to give them at least 30 minutes to have any sort of chance.
But last night was gutting because we never even really gave it a go. Waiting until the 65-70th minute before even making a substitution was baffling. If you are going to change things up you've got to give them at least 30 minutes to have any sort of chance.
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I need a hug.
Its the worst defeat in living memory if we are looking at the consequences of the defeat, but the worst for me was 7-0 at Anfield. That still hurts. I'll be over this within weeks.
I think morale is the lowest it has ever been. For the most part the fight has been knocked out of the support. We feel powerless and beaten. The club needs a fresh start, but those American feckers are still clinging on for dear life.
No, and that's because of the lack of rivalry with Spurs. It would have been worse against most other clubs.
I was shattered when Southampton beat us in 1976 but last night's defeat was, more or less expected. Maybe if we'd played a European side it would have been different but this felt like another sorry Premiership game against sorry opposition.
Were the Glazers at the final? Did they show up?
I personally don't think it was, it was a bit of a depressing sight to see for sure, but what do you expect from both teams that finished where they did in the League, it was actually kind of expected to me. There have been other matches though where i've felt utterly humiliated by opposition we should have done better against. Like those defeats to Liverpool where they were scoring for fun and we looked completely lost were sickening.
This was just a *shrug* expected this kinda crap type of match to me. We're not at the point of expecting anything out of this team currently, it needs to be ripped up under Amorim like he did at his first summer at Sporting, then i'm gonna judge.
This was just a *shrug* expected this kinda crap type of match to me. We're not at the point of expecting anything out of this team currently, it needs to be ripped up under Amorim like he did at his first summer at Sporting, then i'm gonna judge.
It’s annoying because it felt so avoidable. We played it exactly how you’d expect, exactly how we’ve setup all season and got the result we’ve been getting all season.
Spurs change their philosophy for a game and win. We sleepwalk into a loss. Watching certain players look so out of their depth for weeks and then start. It’s back to the Ten Hag stuff we couldn’t wrap our head around. And even he changed his approach in the final.
Spurs change their philosophy for a game and win. We sleepwalk into a loss. Watching certain players look so out of their depth for weeks and then start. It’s back to the Ten Hag stuff we couldn’t wrap our head around. And even he changed his approach in the final.
I think it genuinely might be or very close to it. Even if people expected it, how does the team not raise its standards and efforts? I don't remember the last time I felt this disappointed and let down by the team. The 7-0 was a fluke, the defeat last night was a true disgrace given how important it was and the level of opposition.
I felt sick last night and am not much better today either but think loss to Villarreal in 2021 was tougher for me personally. We were 4 years without a trophy and then when we finally got to a final again we lost on penalties, with de Gea failing to save at least one and then missing the last one.
It's season of upsets. Newcastle beating Liverpool in final for their first trophy in 70 years. Palace beating City in final for first trophy ever. Tottenham beating us for first trophy in 17 years. Also we won Carabao Cup in 2023 and then Fa Cup last year, at least we've won something recently even though Europa would've been bigger thing.
Awful league season is what makes it worse probably. But hopefully as days and weeks go by we'll start getting over this.
It's season of upsets. Newcastle beating Liverpool in final for their first trophy in 70 years. Palace beating City in final for first trophy ever. Tottenham beating us for first trophy in 17 years. Also we won Carabao Cup in 2023 and then Fa Cup last year, at least we've won something recently even though Europa would've been bigger thing.
Awful league season is what makes it worse probably. But hopefully as days and weeks go by we'll start getting over this.
On the negativity of both sides and the lack of quality and the positions the teams are in the league this final was easily the worst.
The 4 bird trophy winners. Liver bird, Magpies, Eagles and now the Cockeral.
Yes it’s the worst, purely because of how utterly awful our opponents were, and how pathetic we were in attack.
Good shout, that was definitely more infuriating to me than yesterday.
^this. A 1-0 loss in a scrappy final (where we at least competed, to the extent that either team can be given that amount of credit) doesn't really compare to being blown out by City and Liverpool numerous times over the last decade.
Hearing OT roundly boo players or the team is another point that's killed some of my childlike wonder over the years.
The worst thing about was the calibre of the opposition and the fact that spurs were actually pretty awful on the night aswell.
Not like they played out of there skin and battered us or the GK was pulling wonder saves out all over the place. They were actually awful, and yet they still beat us pretty comfortably.
It was so meek and cowardly, but that's no great surprise as thats the performances we have had during Amorin's reign.
Not like they played out of there skin and battered us or the GK was pulling wonder saves out all over the place. They were actually awful, and yet they still beat us pretty comfortably.
It was so meek and cowardly, but that's no great surprise as thats the performances we have had during Amorin's reign.
Nah. Although we haven’t lost a cup final to a worse side since 1976. I consider early exists from things worse, or last minute heartbreak. The Porto game of 2004 was particularly traumatising.
It was a game we should have won, Spurs were and are worse than us, to not score with 75% possession and 16 shots 6 on target only 3 realy good chances to score.. imo the ref was poor bought all of there play acting tactical fouls etc..
Ruben should have just put as many attacking players he could on at half time because they had nothing to worry us The donkey they had up front was running in treacle by 60mins ..
It makes me think did he realy want to win it?
Ruben should have just put as many attacking players he could on at half time because they had nothing to worry us The donkey they had up front was running in treacle by 60mins ..
It makes me think did he realy want to win it?
The 6-1 defeat to city at home under SAF was the worst I've felt as a fan, until last night. I think its the lowest point of the 40 years I've supported the club, especially considering our league position. Humbling
World cup final loss is the worst for me. This comes second. I am literally devasted all day. So much was in stake (trophy, CL spot, signings, morale for next season) and we bottled it.
I am seriously thinking about taking one year break from football.
I am seriously thinking about taking one year break from football.
One of the worst. I don’t think it was down to a lack of fight, but more a severe lack of quality and a bad game plan. The truly sad things is that game was very winnable even at 1-0 down.
I think since the Ole/Ralf season we’ve just been on the end of some really horrific results and EtH and Amorim have continued that. The club feels broken.
The 7-0 and 5-0 defeats to Liverpool are up there because of the rivalry.
I think since the Ole/Ralf season we’ve just been on the end of some really horrific results and EtH and Amorim have continued that. The club feels broken.
The 7-0 and 5-0 defeats to Liverpool are up there because of the rivalry.
No but it was cowardly.
It was really bad but J.Evans was sent off early (at 0:1) and our form was 6-2-1. We need a 10 men opposition to win a match in the dying minutes these days.
I wasn't expecting much so the disappointment hasn't been to impactful for me.
The Liverpool drubbings esp at OT bugged me the most. The manner of the losses were shameful.
The Liverpool drubbings esp at OT bugged me the most. The manner of the losses were shameful.
No. It was honestly miraculous that we were there in the first place. You always think there’s at least a slim chance but literally everything was telling us we’d lose last night.We need a proper reset whether we won it or not.
I think so. This season feels like the inevitable culmination of a disastrous set of leaders at all levels.
Yep.
My first time watching football and crying because a team lost.
95 draw vs West Ham
97 vs Dortmund
01 vs leverkusen
09 and 11 losses to Barca
12 vs City (which basically gave them the league)... also the 1-6 game.
13 vs Real (nani red card game)
the 0-7 vs Liverpool
all much, much worse.
How far our standards have slipped where we even consider this "lipstick on a pig" game anywhere near devastating
Anyone associated with running this team and creating this side should be fired.
Bring in Giggs as caretaker manager for the last game of the season.
Is Carrick ready for this stage, I'd have a hard time believing he'd do worse than Amorim
97 vs Dortmund
01 vs leverkusen
09 and 11 losses to Barca
12 vs City (which basically gave them the league)... also the 1-6 game.
13 vs Real (nani red card game)
the 0-7 vs Liverpool
all much, much worse.
How far our standards have slipped where we even consider this "lipstick on a pig" game anywhere near devastating
Anyone associated with running this team and creating this side should be fired.
Bring in Giggs as caretaker manager for the last game of the season.
Is Carrick ready for this stage, I'd have a hard time believing he'd do worse than Amorim
I didn't think we were favourites going into the game as Spurs are better man for man and we can't score goals.
So result wise, no. It was entirely predictable.
Financially the worst though.
So result wise, no. It was entirely predictable.
Financially the worst though.
Ah it’s not as bad losing when you’re constantly winning trophies. The issue for this game is what it means for the future, which is bleak. Losing to Dortmund or Leverkusen in the CL those times just meant going at it again the following season.
Easily there will never be a more embarrassing defeat.
Hard to make a list.
It hurts like a son of a bitch but we had some utterly painful losses over the years.
Robbens goal still haunts me
Conceding 6 goals against City back when Fergie was still here, it just felt like such a power shift in Manchester. They were on the way up and we were slowly going down.
Actually losing 4-0 to Mk dons is up there for me, for some reason it also really hammered home that the glory days was over, it was not going to be quick and easy to come back. Not at all.
7-0 at Anfield hammered home that Erik was the wrong manager. Was absolutely disgusted by that performance.
Pool fans will bring that score up to amuse themselves until the sun is out of gas.
It hurts like a son of a bitch but we had some utterly painful losses over the years.
Robbens goal still haunts me
Conceding 6 goals against City back when Fergie was still here, it just felt like such a power shift in Manchester. They were on the way up and we were slowly going down.
Actually losing 4-0 to Mk dons is up there for me, for some reason it also really hammered home that the glory days was over, it was not going to be quick and easy to come back. Not at all.
7-0 at Anfield hammered home that Erik was the wrong manager. Was absolutely disgusted by that performance.
Pool fans will bring that score up to amuse themselves until the sun is out of gas.
I am devastated. This was the fork in the road, and we are headed toward years of midtable mediocrity. It's a snowball effect.
We all know this, the problem for us is the opposition managers also know this. They know exactly how we're going to line-up and play and can prepare for it all week, we have no mystery or tricks up our sleeve.
this for me is by far the worst I've felt. It completely torched any chance of a resurrection for us. this final I think had more riding on it than any other, yes CL finals are bigger but this has bigger consequences. I have no genuinely lost all hope after last night. I genuinely thought this was an opportunity to gain momentum for next season now all I can see is the abyss.
Maybe, it's one of the worst, losing to a team that didn't even attempt to create or have a decent shot on goal.
I wouldn't say it's the worst (Although that might be influenced by the fact that I was working so did not actually watch the game) but based on how this season has gone I was not surprised we lost. We literally cannot beat PL level opposition this season, just because it was in a different competition doesn't mean that it's not the same team that already beat us multiple times this season.
The two CL finals against Barcelona were far worse than this for me.
The first one because that's probably the best United team I've watched in my life and it was just not good enough to beat Barcelona
The second one because I've never seen United outplayed like that on a stage like that before
Back when we were good, losing actually meant something. It's what I have come to expect these days, so it means less
The two CL finals against Barcelona were far worse than this for me.
The first one because that's probably the best United team I've watched in my life and it was just not good enough to beat Barcelona
The second one because I've never seen United outplayed like that on a stage like that before
Back when we were good, losing actually meant something. It's what I have come to expect these days, so it means less