Eden Hazard | "It's time to enjoy life drinking beers"

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0 goals + 1 assist in 11 Liga+CL games this season. Hazard, Isco, James, Bale, Coutinho, Dembele. Genuinely don't know who's been the worst of these in last 2.5 year.
It's Hazard, he was supposedly at his peak and taking the next step.

Coutinho was similar but not as highly rated and at least he won a treble with Bayern.
 

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It's insane to believe that this guy was (rightfully) considered to be one of the top 10 players in the world. His downhill trajectory has been brutal.
Still not sure why people act surprised.

Hazard would have one season where he was sublime, followed by a mediocre season at best, repeat. At Chelsea, he usually showed up for pre-season anything but fit enough, but nothing a decent pre-season regime wouldn't sort out. The older he gets the longer it takes to regain fitness. He's a bit like Sneijder, never had the drive to maintain the strict lifestyle that is required. He got away with it at Chelsea, but he's sodded off to a club where the supporters have little or no patience and where even Ronaldo, with his insane stats, got booed the instant he didn't perform. Show up fat (for a professional footballer) for your first season at the club, not performing to the standards expected and not really embracing Real Madrid.
 

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It seems pretty clear the club's decided to move on now that Vinicius Jr. is becoming more productive, and with the coming arrival of Mbappe.
 

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Still not sure why people act surprised.

Hazard would have one season where he was sublime, followed by a mediocre season at best, repeat. At Chelsea, he usually showed up for pre-season anything but fit enough, but nothing a decent pre-season regime wouldn't sort out. The older he gets the longer it takes to regain fitness. He's a bit like Sneijder, never had the drive to maintain the strict lifestyle that is required. He got away with it at Chelsea, but he's sodded off to a club where the supporters have little or no patience and where even Ronaldo, with his insane stats, got booed the instant he didn't perform. Show up fat (for a professional footballer) for your first season at the club, not performing to the standards expected and not really embracing Real Madrid.
This is nonsense and has been debunked multiple times, literally in this thread.
 

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Good one.
He had one poor season at Chelsea during his time here, in 15/16 when Mourinho forced him to play through a hip injury. Once he was fit for the last 5-6 weeks of the season, he immediately went back to being one of the best players in the league.

But feel free to name any other season at Chelsea when he was poor? Based on your post you should have a few to choose from.
 

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He had one poor season at Chelsea during his time here, in 15/16 when Mourinho forced him to play through a hip injury. Once he was fit for the last 5-6 weeks of the season, he immediately went back to being one of the best players in the league.

But feel free to name any other season at Chelsea when he was poor? Based on your post you should have a few to choose from.
17/18
 

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Fewer minutes per goal+assist than in 16/17 despite going from Diego Costa to Morata. So that'd be a nope.
So that's the condition :lol: Brilliant. Blimey, Pogba has the most assists in the league so far, he's having a fecking fantastic season
 

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He suffered back to back serious injuries, the second a devastating one given it affected an area where he'd already suffered a previous injury, and it pretty much broke his body

That's really all there is to it. He's no longer capable of being the player he was at chelsea because his body isn't capable of it anymore. And changing his playing style at his age is something that's happened rarely in football history

On top of that, again, his body is permanently broken, as soon as he gains a bit of form and starts looking like he might still be good he gets injured again...
 

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Has he been worse than Sanchez was for us? Seems like since forever now he’s been out of form.
 

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Still not sure why people act surprised.

Hazard would have one season where he was sublime, followed by a mediocre season at best, repeat. At Chelsea, he usually showed up for pre-season anything but fit enough, but nothing a decent pre-season regime wouldn't sort out. The older he gets the longer it takes to regain fitness. He's a bit like Sneijder, never had the drive to maintain the strict lifestyle that is required. He got away with it at Chelsea, but he's sodded off to a club where the supporters have little or no patience and where even Ronaldo, with his insane stats, got booed the instant he didn't perform. Show up fat (for a professional footballer) for your first season at the club, not performing to the standards expected and not really embracing Real Madrid.
Just because Chelsea didn't win the league every season means he had a mediocre season, such a lazy analysis. Something the media threw out there and everyone jumped on it.
Maybe be if the board spent better after winning a league instead of buying crap like Zappacosta, Bakayako, Falcao, Baba Rahman, Danny Drinkwater and Papa Djilobodji and bought better players he could off won back to back league titles.
If that happened we wouldn't have to listen and read nonsense like this, "one season where he was sublime, followed by a medicore season at best"
 

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He suffered back to back serious injuries, the second a devastating one given it affected an area where he'd already suffered a previous injury, and it pretty much broke his body

That's really all there is to it. He's no longer capable of being the player he was at chelsea because his body isn't capable of it anymore. And changing his playing style at his age is something that's happened rarely in football history

On top of that, again, his body is permanently broken, as soon as he gains a bit of form and starts looking like he might still be good he gets injured again...
Isn’t the fact he’s eating a tonne of cheese burgers whenever he’s injured part of the problem?

Looks proper tubby whenever I’ve seen him (granted haven’t seen a lot of him this season.)

Gives the impression he doesn’t take his recuperation as seriously as he should.
 

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Isn’t the fact he’s eating a tonne of cheese burgers whenever he’s injured part of the problem?

Looks proper tubby whenever I’ve seen him (granted haven’t seen a lot of him this season.)

Gives the impression he doesn’t take his recuperation as seriously as he should.
He always seemed to be a player who performs well when he's happy, and doesn't have the motivation to do much when he's not. If he'd had the drive of someone like Ronaldo he'd have won multiple Ballon d'Ors by now.
 

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Just because Chelsea didn't win the league every season means he had a mediocre season, such a lazy analysis. Something the media threw out there and everyone jumped on it.
Maybe be if the board spent better after winning a league instead of buying crap like Zappacosta, Bakayako, Falcao, Baba Rahman, Danny Drinkwater and Papa Djilobodji and bought better players he could off won back to back league titles.
If that happened we wouldn't have to listen and read nonsense like this, "one season where he was sublime, followed by a medicore season at best"
Can't say i've made that assumption
 

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Can't say i've made that assumption
You hinted at it, you said he has a sublime season when we win the league and then mediocre at best when we dont win the league the following season.
Which seasons in his 7 years at Chelsea were medicore at best?.
 

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Saying Hazard was mediocre in 17/18 is a way people tell me they don't know the game without actually telling me.
 

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Must be processed foods he's binging on constantly because he'll be burning thousands of calories in training. A normal guy his age can lose weight super quick if he eats right. I can only think he must be deeply unhappy. Wonder what's up, does his Daddy not love him?
 

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So that's the condition :lol: Brilliant. Blimey, Pogba has the most assists in the league so far, he's having a fecking fantastic season
I mean it's pretty telling when you think he's fantastic in 16/17 but poor the next one - you haven't actually given any conditions so not sure how you're making that conclusion because you obviously didn't watch much.
 

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0 goals + 1 assist in 11 Liga+CL games this season. Hazard, Isco, James, Bale, Coutinho, Dembele. Genuinely don't know who's been the worst of these in last 2.5 year.
Hazard hands down.
 

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What's the general vibe at him on matchday? Getting whistled on and off the pitch like Bale? Guess he hasn't slagged off the club like Bale in past but his professionalism is certainly as bad.

Wonder where he ends up post Madrid, saw odd rumour saying going back to Chelsea but can't see that at all. Might be the sort Newcastle go for perhaps.
 

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He's not being booed much because he's not really playing. His last start in La Liga was in mid September.
 

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08-09 Ligue 1 young player of the year
09-10 Ligue 1 team of the season
10-11 Ligue 1 player of the season
11-12 Ligue 1 player of the season
12-13 PFA Premier League team of the season
13-14 PFA Premier League team of the season
14-15 PFA Players player of the season
15-16 Terrible.
16-17 PFA Premier League team of the season
17-18 Good season. Strong WC. Uefa team of the year in 2017 and 2018.
18-19 PFA fans player of the season.
19- Madrid, lazy and fat.

His inconsistency is overblown.
 

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But him being overweight hampers his recovery and ability. Plus just shows that he’s not arsed either way and has mentally checked out imo.
Yeah. He had it in his mind to leave Chelsea for a few seasons I think, pretty sure he said one of his ambitions was to win Balon D'or which is obviously very very unlikely now so probably thought being in spotlight at Madrid with them winning a CL would help him achieve that as happened with Modric.

I get the feeling he realised very quickly it was a grass isn't greener type of move and Chelsea was exactly perfect fit for him. Club up there challenging and winning trophies most seasons but not the intense spotlight you get playing for Real Madrid.
 

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Yeah. He had it in his mind to leave Chelsea for a few seasons I think, pretty sure he said one of his ambitions was to win Balon D'or which is obviously very very unlikely now so probably thought being in spotlight at Madrid with them winning a CL would help him achieve that as happened with Modric.

I get the feeling he realised very quickly it was a grass isn't greener type of move and Chelsea was exactly perfect fit for him. Club up there challenging and winning trophies most seasons but not the intense spotlight you get playing for Real Madrid.
Yeah agree. He’s had some injuries but the fact he’s been overweight etc just shows that he’s finding it all a bit too hard now and wishes he hadn’t made the change.

Magic player when in the mood, unplayable, but those sorts of players are infuriating when things aren’t going their way.
 

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He always seemed to be a player who performs well when he's happy, and doesn't have the motivation to do much when he's not. If he'd had the drive of someone like Ronaldo he'd have won multiple Ballon d'Ors by now.
Not this again :lol:
 

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But him being overweight hampers his recovery and ability. Plus just shows that he’s not arsed either way and has mentally checked out imo.
He's not overweight though
 

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Genuinely forgot he was there. He’s become really forgettable since moving to Madrid and things not going well. A good entry for the players you had forgotten existed thread.
 

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What's the general vibe at him on matchday? Getting whistled on and off the pitch like Bale? Guess he hasn't slagged off the club like Bale in past but his professionalism is certainly as bad.

Wonder where he ends up post Madrid, saw odd rumour saying going back to Chelsea but can't see that at all. Might be the sort Newcastle go for perhaps.
On a loan with option to buy i genuinely could see it happening. I dont think he'd go to another EPL side, he has said it himself somewhere. Serie A would be possible, too. I think Ziyech will end up going, and i have had a hunch for a while that CHO will go to Germany, although touch wood he stays.