ridiculous reaction from mascheranoLooks to me like Ronaldo took a look at Mascherano's foot, and then took a quick roll to hit with his back. The momentum would have kept him going but gradually he should have slowed down, when you can see clearly that he accelerated a bit with his roll when he got near Mascherano foot.
That law is hardly ever interpreted like that though.
That's plausible
Funny how the team who are "head and shoulders" the best in Europe are only in their 2nd CL final in 5 years; whilst the team who are "head and shoulders" below them are in the 3rd CL final in 5 years.
Clearly the same could be said about Mascherano, but that type of argument doesn't get us anywhere. And you're happy to ignore my point that he was also careless to just run into Ronaldo like that? And you say other people are being obtuse...
Guess he's learning from the best: Barcelona Diving Club.Looks to me like Ronaldo took a look at Mascherano's foot, and then took a quick roll to hit it with his back. The momentum would have kept him going but gradually he should have slowed down, when you can see clearly that he accelerated a bit with his roll when he got near Mascherano foot.
Sounds like another conspiracy theory in the offing.............Funny how the team who are "head and shoulders" the best in Europe are only in their 2nd CL final in 5 years; whilst the team who are "head and shoulders" below them are in the 3rd CL final in 5 years.
Took a look at Mascherano's foot? It is fairly common for people to look at the ground when they're about to fall on it. Also fairly understandable for someone to prefer falling on their back or side rather than face first into someone else's heel.Looks to me like Ronaldo took a look at Mascherano's foot, and then took a quick roll to hit it with his back. The momentum would have kept him going but gradually he should have slowed down, when you can see clearly that he accelerated a bit with his roll when he got near Mascherano foot.
Great, as long as we agree now that he has accelerated with his roll (which is obvious to be honest), I think that leaves no doubt then that he did foul Mascherano intentionally.Guess he's learning from the best: Barcelona Diving Club.
Do you want me to post clips of Barca players accelerating through their roll?
That's a slight on your knowledge of the game then I'm afraid
Which is why your point is a crap one, because he quite blatantly does. It's not intentional, I think we can all agree that, but it's still a foul
You avoided the point that if unintentionally impeding an opponent's progress is a foul resulting in an indirect free-kick, anyone can win an indirect free-kick anywhere on the pitch simply by running into someone.
Hard to tell anything like that from such a stuttery gif (or is it my browser?).Looks to me like Ronaldo took a look at Mascherano's foot, and then took a quick roll to hit it with his back. The momentum would have kept him going but gradually he should have slowed down, when you can see clearly that he accelerated a bit with his roll when he got near Mascherano foot.
Or he's looking at the ground, which one tends to do when they're falling.Looks to me like Ronaldo took a look at Mascherano's foot, and then took a quick roll to hit it with his back. The momentum would have kept him going but gradually he should have slowed down, when you can see clearly that he accelerated a bit with his roll when he got near Mascherano foot.
It was still caused by Pique's bodycheck though.
To some extent. If people simply argued that he dived and therefore fouled JM by falling into him... fine. That some argue that it was a foul even if he was fouled... I think I have to leave this thread. Some are obviously trying to make up for perceived anti-Barca bias...
Eh? You don't get a free kick for running into someone
Maybe you can respond to my question about the hypothetical scenario involving Valdes?
You're a fecking divvy, a serious div! I'm about to use the word spastic, but it upsets certain posters, so I won't call you a spastic, even though you are spouting a lot of spasticated nonsense!
And again
Jesus Christ, do some of you have a brain cell between you? How can a player falling (through no fault of himself) because of a foul cause another foul? It's stupid, a totally idiotic point of view.
This one?
They're probabaly still trying to explain to you the non-hypothetical event where Pique fouled Ronaldo who fell on to Mascherano. Essentially Piques's fault that Mascherano fell over.
That's a pretty good comparison though which should make the Pique/Ronaldo/Mascherano event easier to understand.
(imagining this)
Red card for Messi for assaulting Rio. Clearly.
Exactly, leaving Messi free to play for Argentina only.
and two year ban of every international competition to barca
minimun
It's simply an argument about a very bad refereeing decision in the game, and there were many of them. If you want to point out others, you are free to do so, but don't spout shite!
I had not seen it yet. I assume you mean this. I don't think it's enlightening at all. I accept that intentionality isn't the be all and end all. However, you need to ask why the "offender" does something. If it's because of a tackle, he's not to blame and it's not a foul. So Ronaldo either dived and his landing on Mascherano (not really, Mascherano quite obviously dived as much as Ron and I can't believe this is being questioned) was a result of that, or he was pushed over by Pique, whether or not a foul, and accidentally landed on the argentine twat and it was never a free kick at all.
That's my point. You try to act as if you are SURE it was the wrong decision, when Ronaldo himself wasn't so sure it was the wrong decision during the game, neither did any other Madrid player to care enough to protest.
He doesn't though. His right leg gets caught, bumps into his left leg and he goes down. A fairly normal and natural way to fall down.
