Elon Musk - Life is a Simulation.
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It's one of those things that's interesting to think about and ponder but has no practical application, so it's sort of pointless bothering yourself.
Like Rooney in midfield.
Maybe Elon can give me some of those simulated millions.
Ffs
He just made me eat my words, so well done, Rooney. 
A couple of related bits from Bertrand Russell:
Amusing little ideas that are fun to think about but fairly dead end. I do dread to think the damage they might do to the minds of Musk and OP though.
When I think of the smartest guy on the planet its usually a physicist or the like - someone like Ed Witten usually springs to mind.
It should be noted that Bostrom is a philosopher not a scientist, and his entire hypothesis is unfalsifiable, which is why it is treated as more an interesting thought experiment that reads well on social media feeds, than a matter of hard science.
I make a distinction between 'cleverest' and 'smartest'. Abit like the difference between 'creative' and 'innovative'.
The former have ideas, the latter have ideas (self-created or from other's) and make something of significant tangible value from that.
Yes I agree that Musk has some great ideas. You have to dream big when you do what he does, and definitely dreams big.
What system and game did you try? VR done well is mindblowing imo...
That includes VR180 porn.
Ah that's good to know, I genuinely just have no idea.
I had a brief go at using a VR-set during an immersive art performance I went to, so for all I know it was years old tech. I was going around a shopping mall buying stuff, and it was all a bit clunky.
Anyone interested in a more scientifically grounded version of this should check out some of Leonard Susskind's work on the Holographic Principle on YouTube.
I love Musk's drive to break out of the humdrum of simply existing. But ffs no one make him a political leader.
Until Trump takes an IQ test.
if you believe in a multiverse or a universe with no physical limit then mathematically it is possible.
Why would that follow? I'm sure those theories are separate from the simulation hypothesis, even if they can all be true simultaneously.
Why would they be seperate? If the universe is limitless in size or theres indeed endless multiverses then anything and everything is possible including us living in a simulation.
What is real? If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
For some reason I really wanna do DMT.
If its on social media then its obviously real.
But if we are in a simulation, who created the simulation in which the simulation we are in was created......and so on? So there is room for God in the simulation theory? So God is some silicone valley hipster twat from another dimension? Maybe Elon Musk is God, why not?
That's why the simulation hypothesis is philosophy and not science. Its unfalsifiable.
Yep. The smartest guy on the planet is likely to be a theoretical physicist or mathematician. Entrepreneurs have other qualities.
It looks as if the idea of discrete or 'granular' spacetime supports the simulation hypothesis, since it cuts the computing power required by an order of infinity. If the distance between A and B can only be x times d, where d is the smallest possible distance in the Universe, this removes infinities of other possibilities which don't have to be simulated.
It's impossible to simulate a continuous Universe, only a discrete one. Just as a calculator can't give a completely accurate answer to an arithmetical operation.
It's impossible to simulate a continuous Universe, only a discrete one. Just as a calculator can't give a completely accurate answer to an arithmetical operation.
We are most definitely a simulation, but there is no way to know if we are the original simulation (God) or some simulation inside another simulation.
And probably will never know...
And probably will never know...
We'd have to change our definition of falsehood and also of time and our place in it.
For the same reason people believe in a God to begin with, humans and our societal construct determine that there has to be a beginning and an end to something but somehow it doesn't apply to God itself because he/she/it was just...there...
Why is somone simulating my life of going on the internet and watching TV rather just going on the internet and watching TV. I mean of all the games you could play and all the fantasies you could live out, why something so mundane? I mean I obviously have loads of hot girlfriends, am an undercover spy, drive a Ferrari, bench press 500lbs and have a 12 inch cock so I suppose I see why but still.....
You think you’re the main character? You’re an NPC mate
Can't be much worse than some of the world's leaders
If an advanced civilisation is running a simulation, they're probably running millions of simulations. And it's not so they can watch you watching TV, it's so they can gather the data from all those simulations in hope of learning things we're probably still too ignorant to even think about.
Makes sense, no fecker can be this lazy in real life.You think you’re the main character? You’re an NPC mate
Well you're an Arsenal fan so it's like those examples of all the horrible things people have done to their Sims whilst playing.
You got the groundhog day scenario.
I'm convinced Musk's allure is at least half down to his odd name. If his name was Joe Smith it wouldn't be the same.
If this is a simulation then why presuppose that all and only our phenomenal experiences are transferable to some higher reality/realities. If video games are some indication towards simulated experience - as Musk hints - then any attempt to extrapolate truths on the higher plain from our mere simulation are doubly meaningless. Why not attribute the experience of a Yoshi or Tetris block to our betters. (Yoshi's turtles all the way down diet anyone?) We laugh at the idea that God would create us in his own image but can't escape this anthropocentric idea.
An infinite regression of substrata dependent, glitch free ancestor simulations is a leap beyond the leap. Einstein, Newton, Aristotle hit the bricks. The Evil Demon still has dominion over the computer nerd. I see few important developments here, even in its adoption by the almighty Musk.
Personally I find the idea, particularly in it's digital incarnation, one of the less interesting philisophical brain melters, but I'm not mad I'm just programmed that way.
An infinite regression of substrata dependent, glitch free ancestor simulations is a leap beyond the leap. Einstein, Newton, Aristotle hit the bricks. The Evil Demon still has dominion over the computer nerd. I see few important developments here, even in its adoption by the almighty Musk.
Personally I find the idea, particularly in it's digital incarnation, one of the less interesting philisophical brain melters, but I'm not mad I'm just programmed that way.
Wasn't there a Doctor Who episode on this? The one where they go to the vatican and find the answer to all questions. Literally the actual answer. Which leads everyone to committing suicide when confronted with this logic.
Yes, agreed re: this thought. Have it often. How crazy would that be!
Hah.
Russell was always an amazing writer. He would find room write on complex topics in a clear and terse manner that most everyone could understand, whilst still making personal and humorous observations on the side, and in the end explain the same topics in half the word count compared to most other philosophers.
That said, being impossible to believe is not to me a valid argument.