You think Portugal will risk it? 4 points might not be enough.
England - Euro 2021 Discussion | FA chairman: Southgate to be offered new contract until Euro 2024
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I reckon England will play shit again but somehow beat Czech.
They beat a good team in R16, getting everyone's hopes back up.
Then crash out in the Quarters.
They beat a good team in R16, getting everyone's hopes back up.
Then crash out in the Quarters.
As things presently stand, I think it is now. Particularly with their goal difference
I think every team with 4 points qualifies if Belgium win
Right now it is good enough
Portugal will be happy to be in the knock-out round and i think France don't care about their next opponent.
Yep.
First off no guarantees we win the group if we dont play better Czechs can cause us problems....but I think we win the goup France beat Portugal and Germany beat Hungary....its the bloody Germans again!!! Euro 96 was my birthday semi, 25 years for revenge
One thing, the Billy Gilmour covid story. Dont want the two English guys to have to self isolate....but I hope they are left out tomorrow. I really rate Mount and think he has done well generally for England. BUT, I was thinking today, really he is a much better version of Lingard, a lot of what he does positively is based upon excellent movement into spaces. The way we are playing with our two holdign midfielders and centre backs, when we arent pressing and the play is slow...it makes him far less effective as we are so deep and he is on his own unless he joins the winger out left.Seen both game so far he has started well and as the teams tempo an dpressing has dropped off, so has he. I thought he actually looked very tired against Scotland actually.
But SOuthgate isnt going to drop him or do many changes....if Mount has to be left out for precautions....Southgate is forced to make changes. The way we have played both matches. I can imagine Grealish being more effective as he can drive tha bll out from the middle of the park running with it to move us forward. Or if Foden is moved there he can spin off the midfielders and also link the play and maybe keep a better flow.
Not only that, Foden or Grealish there also forces us to use a different wide player, Rashford or maybe even Sancho gets a chance
We hav eseen in tournaments before, forced changes making stars of players, just look at Robsons injury and PLatt stepping up in Italia 90. Im fearful Southgsgte isnt going to pick the right playres or utilise the bench off of his own back with too much loyatly to 2 or 4 players, Mount missing tomorrow enforces a different side in 2 to 3 positions, positively unless he does something ultra defensive
One thing, the Billy Gilmour covid story. Dont want the two English guys to have to self isolate....but I hope they are left out tomorrow. I really rate Mount and think he has done well generally for England. BUT, I was thinking today, really he is a much better version of Lingard, a lot of what he does positively is based upon excellent movement into spaces. The way we are playing with our two holdign midfielders and centre backs, when we arent pressing and the play is slow...it makes him far less effective as we are so deep and he is on his own unless he joins the winger out left.Seen both game so far he has started well and as the teams tempo an dpressing has dropped off, so has he. I thought he actually looked very tired against Scotland actually.
But SOuthgate isnt going to drop him or do many changes....if Mount has to be left out for precautions....Southgate is forced to make changes. The way we have played both matches. I can imagine Grealish being more effective as he can drive tha bll out from the middle of the park running with it to move us forward. Or if Foden is moved there he can spin off the midfielders and also link the play and maybe keep a better flow.
Not only that, Foden or Grealish there also forces us to use a different wide player, Rashford or maybe even Sancho gets a chance
We hav eseen in tournaments before, forced changes making stars of players, just look at Robsons injury and PLatt stepping up in Italia 90. Im fearful Southgsgte isnt going to pick the right playres or utilise the bench off of his own back with too much loyatly to 2 or 4 players, Mount missing tomorrow enforces a different side in 2 to 3 positions, positively unless he does something ultra defensive
I don’t know, I’m sure they’d rather play a 3rd place team than play England.Right now it is good enough
Portugal will be happy to be in the knock-out round and i think France don't care about their next opponent.
If England finish second they could very well meet Spain, right? That could be fun game.
So England guaranteed qualified now?
I believe so. Anyone on 4 points is practically through now.
Yeah Lineker just confirmed it
Well in Southgate, job done.
ENGLAND'S ROAD TO THE FINAL
Group Winner
Last 16 Round: France/Germany/Portugal
Quarter-final: Spain/Sweden/Poland
Semi-final: Netherlands/Denmark/Wales
2nd Place
Last 16 Round: Spain/Sweden/Poland
Quarter-final: France/Germany/Portugal
Semi-final: Belgium/Italy
Of course we wouldn't reach the final
But i still think England's road to the final would be easier as group winner.......of course it will be tough against France/Germany/Portugal in the Last-16-Round but if you beat them (Maybe in a penalty shoot-out) then the road to the final would look not impossible.......Spain and the Netherlands are on the same level as England.
Much harder than to beat France/Germany/Portugal in a quarter-final and then Belgium/Italy in a semi-final.
Group Winner
Last 16 Round: France/Germany/Portugal
Quarter-final: Spain/Sweden/Poland
Semi-final: Netherlands/Denmark/Wales
2nd Place
Last 16 Round: Spain/Sweden/Poland
Quarter-final: France/Germany/Portugal
Semi-final: Belgium/Italy
Of course we wouldn't reach the final
But i still think England's road to the final would be easier as group winner.......of course it will be tough against France/Germany/Portugal in the Last-16-Round but if you beat them (Maybe in a penalty shoot-out) then the road to the final would look not impossible.......Spain and the Netherlands are on the same level as England.
Much harder than to beat France/Germany/Portugal in a quarter-final and then Belgium/Italy in a semi-final.
Been saying this for ages now, people are only looking at R16 when saying finishing 2nd is better, I'd rather take the tough game at Wembley and know if we win that we've got an easier run to the final, even though it is still unlikely.ENGLAND'S ROAD TO THE FINAL
Group Winner
Last 16 Round: France/Germany/Portugal
Quarter-final: Spain/Sweden/Poland
Semi-final: Netherlands/Denmark/Wales
2nd Place
Last 16 Round: Spain/Sweden/Poland
Quarter-final: France/Germany/Portugal
Semi-final: Belgium/Italy
Of course we wouldn't reach the final
But i still think England's road to the final would be easier as group winner.......of course it will be tough against France/Germany/Portugal in the Last-16-Round but if you beat them (Maybe in a penalty shoot-out) then the road to the final would look not impossible.......Spain and the Netherlands are on the same level as England.
Much harder than to beat France/Germany/Portugal in a quarter-final and then Belgium/Italy in a semi-final.
Doesn't make any sense if you hope to win the thing.
Makes a lot of sense if getting to the quarters is the extent of your ambitions.
Was thinking this earlier, and you're absolutely right. Somehow manage a win at home to one of the three and we'd be favourites to get to the final from there. Get the word to Southgate before he plays out another 0-0!
Yep....i don't care if we go out in the las-16-round or quarter-final....that would make no difference in my opinion.
But to reach another semi-final would be positive.....and the semi-final opponent would be on our level.
Yeah it's one round difference whichever the route so want to win the group looking at both paths
Exactly this, sick and tired of people harping on about finishing second for an easier draw.ENGLAND'S ROAD TO THE FINAL
Group Winner
Last 16 Round: France/Germany/Portugal
Quarter-final: Spain/Sweden/Poland
Semi-final: Netherlands/Denmark/Wales
2nd Place
Last 16 Round: Spain/Sweden/Poland
Quarter-final: France/Germany/Portugal
Semi-final: Belgium/Italy
Of course we wouldn't reach the final
But i still think England's road to the final would be easier as group winner.......of course it will be tough against France/Germany/Portugal in the Last-16-Round but if you beat them (Maybe in a penalty shoot-out) then the road to the final would look not impossible.......Spain and the Netherlands are on the same level as England.
Much harder than to beat France/Germany/Portugal in a quarter-final and then Belgium/Italy in a semi-final.
Knight him already I say.
England need to start making use of their pace on the flanks in this tournament which they haven't done so as of yet. Two out of Sterling, Sancho and Rashford on the flanks need to play alongside the creative players in the middle.
Rumours going around Henderson is set to start and Bellingham might start if Mount can't play, I think he's playing for a draw,
Czechs go first with a draw due to better GD, right?
I hope its Bellingham alongside one of Rice/Phillips and then Grealish.
I’d love to see Southgate go all out attacking in this game as were through and I don’t think it matters who we play next.
Full muppet mode..
Sancho grealish Foden
Kane
Full muppet mode..
Sancho grealish Foden
Kane
I’d love to see Southgate go all out attacking in this game as were through and I don’t think it matters who we play next.
Full muppet mode..
Sancho grealish Foden
Kane
Does look better to win the group and have a home game against France/Germany next round on the road to the final but if one wants to do better than R16 at the last euros a draw would possibly be better.
All look like tough games though the way we're playing and changing team selections. Maybe we need a easier R16 game just to get another game in and get a solid starting list going but while Spain don't seem to be playing that well they can easily keep the ball against us with Moreno getting a winner, looking more like Spain than Sweden Poland.
The finals might not even be at Wembley and could be in Budapest due to covid restrictions.
Come what may.
All look like tough games though the way we're playing and changing team selections. Maybe we need a easier R16 game just to get another game in and get a solid starting list going but while Spain don't seem to be playing that well they can easily keep the ball against us with Moreno getting a winner, looking more like Spain than Sweden Poland.
The finals might not even be at Wembley and could be in Budapest due to covid restrictions.
Come what may.
People talking about losing for a easier draw but really winning the group is the better draw.
Coming second might mean England face Spain or Sweden but the quarter final and semi finals are alot harder with France and Belgium in the same bracket.
Finishing top means having to play Germany but an easier route to the final.
Coming second might mean England face Spain or Sweden but the quarter final and semi finals are alot harder with France and Belgium in the same bracket.
Finishing top means having to play Germany but an easier route to the final.
Yep.
Expecting changes, so wouldn't mind something like this (given the rumours Maguire & Henderson are starting):
Get the likes of Bellingham, Calvert-Lewin, Saka etc subbed on if possible.
Pickford
James Stones Maguire Shaw
Henderson Rice
Sancho Grealish Rashford
Kane
James Stones Maguire Shaw
Henderson Rice
Sancho Grealish Rashford
Kane
Get the likes of Bellingham, Calvert-Lewin, Saka etc subbed on if possible.
So Mount/Chillwell have to isolate to 28th. So England will want to finish top so they both can play in QF, longer break. Also it’s at Wembley if the win the group not that it matters with this team.
Chillwell? More like Notwell.
Too much talk of where we finish and the potential fixtures. There are some fantastic sides in this competition so we are going to have to beat at least 2 really good teams to win it. The only mindset Southgate could possibly ever encourage is to win every game and we will face who we face. He gets little credit for the World Cup run because of the opposition so going deep in a tournament is not that relevant unless we take a big scalp or two along the way.
Hopefully, we actually attack this time.
Pretty sure Southgate will play Sancho and Grealish to get heat off himself.
If England get to the Quarters, there's no way either one gets back in the side barring injury.