Very nice route to the final. Holland could be a tough game but every other team after Germany is very beatable I feel.
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Germany then Sweden/Ukraine, then the likes of Wales, Denmark, Netherlands and the Czechs? It's time to get our big boy pants on and beat Germany at home, then the tournament opens up for us.
I would argue Hungary has shown more quality than England though so far
25 years on from Southgate penalty miss at Wembley he has a chance at redemption as a manager...
I wont say they dont have a hope vs Germany but they are going to find it very very difficult considering they will be starting with 10 men pretty much.
Germany knocking them out in yet another tournament would be a bit ridiculous though.
Germany knocking them out in yet another tournament would be a bit ridiculous though.
God it would be fun to have the world telling us how Germany were terrible and England had another easy tournament.
I don't think they are really terrible, sadly, but I'd be very happy if that ends up the post tournament narrative.
It's still Germany.
When was the last time England knocked out Germany in a big tournament? 1966?
So we are fecked then.
It's funny really that the Germans probably want Kane to play based on the tournament so far. He looks so unthreatening.
It’s as weak a Germany as there’s been for a long time as evidenced by their performances and results the last few years.
Of the three (Portugal, Germany and France), the Germans were the ones I'd have chosen to draw pre game and not seen anything tonight to change my mind. They're still Germany and we're still England, mind, so I'm not very hopeful but miracles do happen.
Sure. But still good enough to overwhelm a decent Portugal side.
Calling it now.
With against Germany then out on penalties against Sweden ))
With against Germany then out on penalties against Sweden ))
Yes, and they are facing England in a knock out match.
Maguire should be ready, Grealish doing great, Sancho fully rested, Rashford should feel better than few weeks ago and Kane's not injured yet btw.I would argue Hungary has shown more quality than England though so far
This can go both ways of course, but it's time to break the curse, penalties or not.
The difference maker for me will be in the mentality of the players. I think the Germans have a winning mentality and ours is too cautious. Southgate plays to not lose matches which is fine but when you have a team that is as vulnerable as Germany I think it's the wrong approach. Especially with home advantage. The last thing England should do is let them settle into the game just like they let Croatia do, the difference is that Germany actually has the quality to damage us.
I remember everyone saying the same thing in 2010. We got beat 4-1
When was last time Germany won the war ? See what I did there ?
Just go there and win FFS. I want to see Netherlands vs England final if possible.
Stop it with this fecking shite.
The last time the media were bullish with England was about 2006
I think England will beat them. They won’t give up the chances Portugal did. Portugal almost beat themselves in that game.
No possible, same side of the draw.
They’re on the same side of the draw.
Exactly. Germany, like Scotland, will be at their absolute best against England at Wembley.
We really should have beaten them at Euro 96 though
There in the same half of the draw.
C'MON INGURLAAAAND!!
Germany hammered Portugal's fullbacks, so we need Shaw starting. Walker on the other flank? He doesn't fill me with confidence to be honest. Let's feckin 'av it
Germany hammered Portugal's fullbacks, so we need Shaw starting. Walker on the other flank? He doesn't fill me with confidence to be honest. Let's feckin 'av it
People say this but it’s not really true is it? Except when they lose and they pretend the ‘it’s coming home’ stuff was just irony.
Darn it.
We away or home team?
Yeah, I feel like pretty much every major tournament England gets talked up as potential winners.
Imagine Hungary had beaten Germany. Our bracket would be so easy
I’m not hopeful whatsoever of us getting past Germany to be honest. But you never know.
I’m not hopeful whatsoever of us getting past Germany to be honest. But you never know.
Muller and Hummels are always the main threat imo. Even though this isn’t a great side by German tournament standards, they’ve psychologically haunted us for decades. Can’t see that changing unfortunately.
All this "nice easy route to the final" talk
Lads, you haven't beat a decent side in a major tournament since Beckham's penalty against Argentina in 2002.
Lads, you haven't beat a decent side in a major tournament since Beckham's penalty against Argentina in 2002.
That’s the spiritFootballs coming home is about how shit England are but how we always have hope.
It's about supporting the team.
Maybe so but when the fans were singing “it’s coming home” in the last World Cup I think you were believing it, that wasn’t irony. And why not.
Not sure I agree with the winning mentality point. They've won one drawn one lost one so far this tourney whereas we've won two and drawn one. Didn't they get dumped out of the world cup in groups as well? I get that it's Germany, we've a terrible record against them etc but it's as good a chance against them as we've had in twenty years or so.
Because we got to extra time in the semi finals for feck sake.
When are you allowed to think you can win?
Thankfully no Gareth Barry this time.
Denmark and Holland would give England tough games but looking at the two sides of the draw it does make a mockery of people saying England were trying to finish 2nd in the group, extreme difference between the two sides of the draw it's fair to say.
Whoever reaches the final from top half will certainly deserve it and be very battle hardened, just a question of how much left in the tank but they'd be massive favourites although ultimately it feels a little like 2016 with Portugal ending in the kinder half of the draw and building enough momentum themselves to win it.
It's incredible how that song has managed to annoy so many throughout the years