DomesticTadpole
Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.
Because a lot of players will not be available for first warm up game due to EL/CL finals.What's the point of naming 33.
Because a lot of players will not be available for first warm up game due to EL/CL finals.What's the point of naming 33.
Exactly. AWB should 100% be in this squad.The narrative is set with Wan Bissaka. He can’t attack. Despite scoring and assisting more goals than Reece James, Kieran Trippier or Kyle Walker.
Always a chance of injuries in those finals as well.Half the squad are involved in the EL and CL finals so the United players are unlikely to be available for the first warm up game and some of the City and Chelsea players may have to miss both warm up games.
he has done well for England. We really don’t have anyone better. Even if it’s arguable, we don’t have anyone who is smashing down the door to play.Has he? Pickford will be one of the worst keepers at the tournament I reckon.
I can never understand how he gets his game for England. I'd have Darren Randolph ahead of him if he were Irish.
I think the same. We had an incredibly fortunate run in the World Cup and the first decent team we faced turned us over. You always get the feeling Southgate is throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks, rather than having any kind of plan.No doubt in my mind this is how it'll go. The nation will turn when he makes an absolute mess of having such brilliant attacking talent, and making us a negative tumescent bore fest. All the signs are there.
Right back is a position that England have ridiculous strength in so I can understand him not being picked. Especially when he’s uncapped. I think Wan Bissaka is fighting against an unfair narrative though.Exactly. AWB should 100% be in this squad.
Our central midfield is dire though........ There is a decent case to be made that Bellingham should actually start.
Our attacking talent is arguably the best in the competition.Can't help but think this'll be the squad/tournament that sees people turn against Southgate.
It was one thing to take an average squad to the world cup semis (albeit via a favourable route), but with the talent - especially in attack - England now have, I think there'll be demands for a more positive/attacking mindset.
He has.Has he?
He's a poor footballer, in truth, and shouldn't be in the United first XI, let alone England's 26 man squad considering the amount of decent right backs we have currently.Everyone talking about Wan-Bissaka improving in attack, but ignoring the fact that one in every three goals we concede is because he can't keep track of players attacking the back post.
He's an incredible tackler - one of the best I've ever seen. But he's a piss poor defender.
Aye, Darlow is a far far better keeper then Ramsdale.Maybe it's just me but I rate Karl Darlow really highly. How comes he isn't remotely mentioned for a place yet Ramsdale gets a look in?
To be fair this is very true, he's looked solid lately, but then that just makes me worried he's due a clangerHe has.
Probably his finest moment was in the Nations League 3rd place playoff in the pennalty shootout when he stepped up to smash one home and then saved one to win it.
I do fear that he'll cost us at one point but it's hard to fault his record so far. I can't honestly say that I'd prefer Henderson over him at the moment. Henderson has made big errors in the u20s & 21s. Pickford's form also improved a lot as this season went on.
Pretty much.Everyone talking about Wan-Bissaka improving in attack, but ignoring the fact that one in every three goals we concede is because he can't keep track of players attacking the back post.
He's an incredible tackler - one of the best I've ever seen. But he's a piss poor defender.
Yeah I think so too. *assuming Henderson, Phillips, and Maguire are all fit for the Euros*.My guess:
Goalkeepers:
Defenders:
- Dean Henderson (Manchester United)
- Sam Johnstone (West Brom)
- Jordan Pickford (Everton)
Aaron Ramsdale (Sheffield United)
Midfielders:
Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool)- Ben Chilwell (Chelsea)
- Conor Coady (Wolves)
Ben Godfrey (Everton)- Reece James (Chelsea)
- Harry Maguire (Manchester United)
- Tyrone Mings (Aston Villa)
- Luke Shaw (Manchester United)
- John Stones (Manchester City)
- Kieran Trippier (Atletico Madrid)
- Kyle Walker (Manchester City)
Ben White (Brighton)
Forwards:
- Jude Bellingham (Borussia Dortmund)
- Jordan Henderson (Liverpool)
- Jesse Lingard (West Ham)
- Mason Mount (Chelsea)
- Kalvin Phillips (Leeds)
- Declan Rice (West Ham)
James Ward-Prowse (Southampton)
- Dominic Calvert-Lewin (Everton)
- Phil Foden (Man City)
- Jack Grealish (Aston Villa)
- Mason Greenwood (Manchester United)
- Harry Kane (Tottenham)
- Marcus Rashford (Manchester United)
Bukayo Saka (Arsenal)- Jadon Sancho (Borussia Dortmund)
- Raheem Sterling (Man City)
Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa)
Pickford is seriously underrated among you English people. Sure, he is sometimes butter fingers but he often pulls amazing saves. As i recall, he was pretty good on World cupNo doubt in my mind it'll be Pickford, unfortunately.
I think he goes because Southgate knows he's the only natural finisher we have outside Kane.I really hope Greenwood is in the final side, as I genuinely believe he's the 2nd best finisher in the side after Kane
He's honestly fine for England.Pickford is seriously underrated among you English people. Sure, he is sometimes butter fingers but he often pulls amazing saves. As i recall, he was pretty good on World cup
there are many aspects to to defending, aside from tackling - which bizarrely people seem to forget when it comes to AWB.Everyone talking about Wan-Bissaka improving in attack, but ignoring the fact that one in every three goals we concede is because he can't keep track of players attacking the back post.
He's an incredible tackler - one of the best I've ever seen. But he's a piss poor defender.
Yeah he is, and out of the four in that squad he is clearly the best option.He's honestly fine for England.
Inclined to agree. And with someone of Rice's quality, you could easily partner him with a Mount or Bellingham and play Sancho, Foden, Grealish/Rashford and Kane ahead of that midfield 2.Our attacking talent is arguably the best in the competition.
However, we'll play 2 holding midfielders, be extremely narrow in midfield and will be stifled by any team that can defend reasonably competently, unless we get a penalty or score from a corner.
Southgate is way too cautious and he never plays to our strengths. You can bet Sterling will start despite doing nothing for England for the last 3 years. For one off games like we'll have its OK to be adventurous and win 4-3 every now and then. I have very little faith we'll do well, not because our players are shit, but because our manager is.
I think he goes as he’s got some versatility, and importantly has shown he can make an impact from the bench - realistically he won’t start any games.Delighted for Mason though! Will he make the main squad though? I would definatley have him in there instead off Saka, Watkins and Sterling especially with how well he ended the season and probably our best of the RW along with Sancho I feel. Foden and Mount through the middle and Rashford and Grealish of the left.
He plays for Utd so he gets inHe's a poor footballer, in truth, and shouldn't be in the United first XI, let alone England's 26 man squad considering the amount of decent right backs we have currently.
No way we take four RB's. One of TAA or James will miss out.I think he goes because Southgate knows he's the only natural finisher we have outside Kane.
I think Ramsdale, White, Watkins, Saka, Coady, Godfrey miss out. I cant decide on the 7th who is likely to be a midfielder. I think Ward Prowse stays because of his delivery. Maybe Phillips.
That what I think Southgate will do. I would've kept TAA/Godfrey and booted rubbish like Coady and Mings.Not a fan of people that can cross the ball are you? Ward-Prowse, Alexander-Arnold and Saka all out. Set pieces are one of England's biggest strengths, Maguire even mentioned they spend an enormous amount of time in training on it.
Part of me hopes one of the early games someone like Henderson gets injured. I can see Bellingham emerging as a big player in the tournament if such a scenario happens, much like David Platt for example. I would be starting him alongside Rice personallyExactly. AWB should 100% be in this squad.
Our central midfield is dire though........ There is a decent case to be made that Bellingham should actually start.
Ramsdale isn't dreadful. He was very poor shot stopping wise early in the season but improved as the season went on. His shot stopping stats were actually better than Henderson's and De Gea's in the end. He's one of the best in the league for collecting crosses and sweeping too.33 man provisional squad... christ, why not just make it an even 40.
Ramsdale is a dreadful keeper, he surely can't be the 5th best English keeper?!
Also, it says quite a lot that, even in a 33 man squad, AWB is still probably nowhere near it (and to be honest, I don't feel too strongly about the fact that he isn't)
No Eric Dier though says something! No Ings either.
Yes I think he is a very average keeper, but he has been a good keeper so far for England. I just hope that continues this summer as its him and the Stones/Maguire partnership concerns me most against the bigger sides, all have a rick in themhe has done well for England. We really don’t have anyone better. Even if it’s arguable, we don’t have anyone who is smashing down the door to play.
he’s obviously not a world beater, but unfortunately the best we have.
Be honest; if you can pick between AWB and that four FB, what two would you want to see in United shirt next year?Exactly. AWB should 100% be in this squad.
Our central midfield is dire though........ There is a decent case to be made that Bellingham should actually start.
This is generally my view aswell, will be the guy to come of the bench when we need a goal. Arguably he is the best finisher for England behind Kane too.I think he goes as he’s got some versatility, and importantly has shown he can make an impact from the bench - realistically he won’t start any games.
Oh please. I understand somes sentiments about tracking at the back post, that needs to improve for sure. But he is improving and certainyl has going forward, has been one of our most consistent performers this season. I agree we have a lot of right backs so can see why he isnt named. But people keep lauding ALexander Arnold, he cant defend and is positionally much worse than Bissaka. Who would you sign for us then to replace him out of interest?He's a poor footballer, in truth, and shouldn't be in the United first XI, let alone England's 26 man squad considering the amount of decent right backs we have currently.