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India could win this by an innings. This is a good deck for now.
 

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Getting deeply worried about the pitch now.
 

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Axar finding test cricket too easy for now :lol:
 

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Atleast 100 short i think.

Really disappointing effort, our heads have gone.
 

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That's probably 50-60 runs short of a commanding first innings total, makes for a competitive game. India will not find it easy to keep wickets, either.
Agreed. Not a great total but not an awful one either. If England can keep India to 250 they're in the game.
 

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Bat decently in this innings and that's our passage to WTC final confirmed.
 

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Gill missed a straight ball ffs.
 

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Gill deciding to mix things up by missing a straight ball off a seamer for a change.
 

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Looks a much better pitch than the last one. Still not easy to bat on, but at least you feel the spinner has to bowl well to get a wicket. England’s batting not good enough on turning pitch. But it was always going to be a massive challenge with a inexperienced batting line up. The conditions are simply very alien to what their used too.
 

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It is a decent pitch, isn't it? Not too easy for the batsmen - there's turn and bounce - but not wholly unpredictable yet, either.
Not watched a single ball. I was just joking about the score.
 

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Looks a much better pitch than the last one. Still not easy to bat on, but at least you feel the spinner has to bowl well to get a wicket. England’s batting not good enough on turning pitch. But it was always going to be a massive challenge with a inexperienced batting line up. The conditions are simply very alien to what their used too.
Yeah.

Complaining about England's batting on spinning wickets is a bit like complaining on India's on green seamers. The players get so little practice in alien conditions these days that it's inevitable they struggle.

Maybe the ECB could think about reversing its stance on turning pitches. If you punish teams like Somerset, you're not giving batsman a chance to play on these surfaces.
 

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Yeah.

Complaining about England's batting on spinning wickets is a bit like complaining on India's on green seamers. The players get so little practice in alien conditions these days that it's inevitable they struggle.

Maybe the ECB could think about reversing its stance on turning pitches. If you punish teams like Somerset, you're not giving batsman a chance to play on these surfaces.
Add in lack of prep / practice games this year due to Covid also.
 

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Bar what can now only be described as a fluke first test, is this the most feeble England tour of India in recent history? Absolutely dreadful stuff.
No.

The last England tour, when India got 600 every time they batted, was feeble.

This time we've battered India on the best pitch of the series and forced them to prepare pitches that suit them. The very fact they've had to do that shows how much we've improved.

Would you say India were feeble when they lost 4-1 in England last time? I wouldn't. It was simply a case of England preparing pitches to suit their bowlers and that's happened again this time.
 

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No.

The last England tour, when India got 600 every time they batted, was feeble.

This time we've battered India on the best pitch of the series and forced them to prepare pitches that suit them. The very fact they've had to do that shows how much we've improved.

Would you say India were feeble when they lost 4-1 in England last time? I wouldn't. It was simply a case of England preparing pitches to suit their bowlers and that's happened again this time.
Oh come on - the scoreline is only part of the story. The manner the tests are played out is key.

The last test was the shortest since WWII, and it wasn't even a terrible pitch.

England's openers have offered absolutely no foundation, and too often our best batsmen have thrown away their wicket. Add to that poor selections and you've got the makings of a pretty feeble showing.
 

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Bar what can now only be described as a fluke first test, is this the most feeble England tour of India in recent history? Absolutely dreadful stuff.
I mean, it’s 24-1. Chances are India can go on and bat England out of the game, but it’s pretty dumb acting like this test is done. A couple of quick wickets and it’s game on.
 

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There was hardly anything in this wicket. This much turn is common on all Indian pitch. Would be disappointed if we don't bat well on this surface
 

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Oh come on - the scoreline is only part of the story. The manner the tests are played out is key.

The last test was the shortest since WWII, and it wasn't even a terrible pitch.

England's openers have offered absolutely no foundation, and too often our best batsmen have thrown away their wicket. Add to that poor selections and you've got the makings of a pretty feeble showing.
One of the reasons the last test was short was that India only got 140 in the first innings themselves.
 

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This series has just really been missing a classic Kohli knock to top it off for India.
 

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I mean, it’s 24-1. Chances are India can go on and bat England out of the game, but it’s pretty dumb acting like this test is done. A couple of quick wickets and it’s game on.
I would be amazed if India bat twice this match
 

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I think it's pretty embarrassing what England have done batting first the last two matches.
 

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And for all the talk about being "fearless" ahead of the match, there wasn't much sign of confidence in England's team selection. Instead, it suggested a lack of confidence in the ability of the specialist batsmen to get the job done. It looked as if they were still coming to terms with the challenge in the previous Test and over-compensating to the faults of selection in that game. You wonder what message such a selection sent through the team; it felt like seeing your pilot strap on his parachute.
 

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And for all the talk about being "fearless" ahead of the match, there wasn't much sign of confidence in England's team selection. Instead, it suggested a lack of confidence in the ability of the specialist batsmen to get the job done. It looked as if they were still coming to terms with the challenge in the previous Test and over-compensating to the faults of selection in that game. You wonder what message such a selection sent through the team; it felt like seeing your pilot strap on his parachute.
Definitely. Dan Lawrence chucked back in at 7?

Muddled thinking, the spinning wickets have got in our heads. They've done well to not whinge about it in the media, but clearly the changing room has no answers.
 

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Definitely. Dan Lawrence chucked back in at 7?

Muddled thinking, the spinning wickets have got in our heads. They've done well to not whinge about it in the media, but clearly the changing room has no answers.
what I don’t get is, how can an international quality team like England react so haphazardly with so much time to think? It’s not some random decision Root made on the field.