Rather have summers like this than the one last year.
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I was away at a festival during the second test so had to catch up on highlights, it's funny how much you feel distanced from the series when you can't take it in live.
Looking forward to getting back in with some play here.
Looking forward to getting back in with some play here.
Mitchell Johnson has really short legs doesn't he.
It's not raining in Wakefield... feckin' Leeds.
He seems a proper decent bloke from what I've seen and heard of him this summer.
Bit disappointing really, he was much more fun as an evil pantomime villain.
Yeah I like him as well. Speaks with real eloquence too.
Wouldn't have given Archer the new ball. Broad and Woakes are better for these conditions surely.
You were saying
Yes boi, nice one Jof
I regret nothing
. Archer hadn't been great up until then.Shame about the rain. Maybe early lunch?
Just own itI regret nothing
Shame about the rain. Maybe early lunch?
Archer is 24, but where has he been for the last 3 or 4 years, developing his game?
They only changed the rules to make him eligible for England a few months back.
Playing for various T20 teams mainly. Also played first-class cricket for Sussex.
That's, what, the second time this series that Khawaja has absolutely blatantly nicked it and stood around like an absolute cnut.
Fair enough if you tickle it, but that's taking the piss.
Fair enough if you tickle it, but that's taking the piss.
Was thinking the same thing. He must have known he'd smashed it.
As soon as they reviewed he should have just walked off.
I hope they aren't pinning all their hopes on Smiths brother from another mother, Labuschagne.
I think game should get rid of this ‘nick it you walk: gentleman’s spirit of the game’ nonsense. Is not fit for purpose in this era.
Exactly the same for kicking ball out of play if a player is injured in football.
Just let refs and umpires decide, they have enough technology now to help them.
So 10 overs gone and no bouncers yet from either Archer or Broad.
Yeah I agree. Was joking about the walking off, no way would he do that.
Both sides have got two reviews, so they can use them.
Besides, Broad is not one to talk about not walking. Remember that farce a couple of Ashes back? One of worst ump calls ever
Yeah that was a disgrace. He pretty much hit it for four.Besides, Broad is not one to talk about not walking. Remember that farce a couple of Ashes back? One of worst ump calls ever
Think I'd give Archer a rest after this over and see what Woakes can do.
Yeah, and the Aussies ran front page attack ads calling him a cheat and their coach said before the series that they were aiming to make Broad cry.Besides, Broad is not one to talk about not walking. Remember that farce a couple of Ashes back? One of worst ump calls ever
That's what rankles, the Aussies are a sanctimonious bunch and we all know that they operate two different moral compasses and regard themselves as custodians of the line but either you walk (and I think you should walk) or you don't and can't complain when others don't either.
Why do you think he’s bowling sub 90mph and zero bouncers?
Yeah woakes should be boss on these conditions
He's still a quality bowler but he's trying to bowl it really full isn't he, and losing a bit of effectiveness as a result. Woakes is a specialist in these conditions as you say - let's give them the chance to use them. Can always bring Archer back on if it doesn't work.
Haha 'the line'. Only Australia can decide where it is and only they can decide who's crossed it.
I think of Aussie behaviour as pre and post sandpaper era.
The line has been obliterated post those ridiculous shenanigans and smashed open their echo chamber.
I think it was quite the wake up call for the team. Some of their fans have taken abit longer to adjust
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I'm of the opinion that the sandpaper thing was wrong (obviously) but the ban's they received were more than fair. Other countries including England have done similar things in the past to the ball. We don't have much high ground on that one.
Very smart observation and exactly what Holding just said about Archer. Also mentioned that it’s only been a few days since he bowled 40+ overs, often only with 3 mins rest as Leach was at other end. I’m also sure that must play a part, physically and mentally.
In such helpful bowling conditions, I’d like Root to rotate all 4 seamers every 3 or 4 overs, from different ends, over and around the wicket. Do that for first 30 overs while ball has some good shine.
Would cause havoc to a batsman’s concentration and preparation.
Other countries may have done as bad, but they haven’t been caught! The things they have been challenged are often circumstantial (mints and dust).
Hiding Sandpaper down your pants is on another level
and rightly deserved a different level of punishment.The subsequent outrage from non- Australians was as much about the hypocrisy of ‘the line’, many years of sledging and other unsportsmanlike behaviour as it was about ball tampering.
You've probably already heard by now but Root said on the radio that it is because they want Buttler batting with the lower order. Like he used to. Like many of us didn't really understand why we changed it...
Why does it matter who he bats with?
Just that he's better at hitting runs with the tail than others are. He has the potential to be 20 not out with us 8 down and get himself 70+ with Broad and Leach.
In which case the question again becomes can you afford to select a specialist batsman to bat at no 7?
Yeah it allows him to play his natural, aggressive game with less to lose, and he can score quickly, which is a major advantage if you're trying to scrabble together late-order runs.
Haha, I'm probably only saying it because Michael Holding did!
Ass you say, we could do with rotating the seamers a bit more, and reducing the reliance on Archer. We're going to burn him out if we don't do that.
It's an issue. It's getting more and more complicated trying to get him, Bairstow and Stokes in to a batting line up when the one who has the talent to bat up the order doesn't want to because of his bowling workload and of the other two it's the one who isn't keeping that works better down the order.
What I don’t understand is why can’t he still play the same way at no 6, and so have longer to cause havoc.
When he was brought into test team, he was told to play his natural way. I feel that he has tried to change that in this series so far, and like Roy, gotten totally confused on how to play.
For me it’s not about what number he bats, it’s the way he bats. And at his best, you want him as high up as possible.