Chris Silverwood, who took over from Ottis Gibson when he went to South Africa.
English & Irish Cricket Summer 2018
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Hope we get buttler before tea.
Also, so great we finally have two good all-rounders in the team. Have really given us the balance that was missing.
Also, so great we finally have two good all-rounders in the team. Have really given us the balance that was missing.
England totally outplayed, so frustrating.
Sarfraz’s on going commentary never disappoints 
Oh, right.
Are our bowlers unteachable? Wasn't Silverwood a pitch it up swing bowler?
With the amount of experience Broad and Anderson have they don't need teaching, just a gentle reminder here and there to keep them on top of their game.
Might this not be the problem though? They're so experienced we'd have to resurrect Trueman to have a chance of them listening to advice - or indeed any of the other seamers taking our bowling coach's advice over Anderson's.
England need to make wholesale changes for the 2nd test
Hildreth
Burns
Vince
Root
Pope
Stokes
Bairstow
Woakes
Ali
Broad
Anderson
Hildreth
Burns
Vince
Root
Pope
Stokes
Bairstow
Woakes
Ali
Broad
Anderson
Oh my.
Experience does not necessarily bring hubris with it. Never heard anything about England players being hard to coach. Show the bowlers the numbers and they'll respond accordingly.
Really good work by Atherton on Buttler's approach straight away this innings, considering he's not played first-class for a good while it shows good match awareness and is a bit of a damning indictment on the rest of the side.
What? This is looking like the 3re innings in the last 6 that England have been all out for under 200
If Buttler makes a 50+ he is starting at 7 with Bairstow back to country cricket
Cook has been too inconsistent for way to long now,
Stoneman is out of form and needs replacing
Malan same as Stoneman
Woakes is better than Wood
Ali is quite good in England
Good battle this between Buttler & the bowlers.
England have the lead. These 2 have played well.
I think Buttler’s done well by forcing the issue & coming so far forward.
I think Buttler’s done well by forcing the issue & coming so far forward.
Bess at 3 at this rate.
Bess with a 50 well played young man
Good session for England. The Pakistan bowlers looked tired towards the end.
New ball will be crucial tomorrow. If England get a lead of 150 it’ll be a tricky chase.
New ball will be crucial tomorrow. If England get a lead of 150 it’ll be a tricky chase.
Only taken till the final session on day 3 for England to win one
Honestly what are Stoneman and Malan doing in this team
Buttler out 2nd over of the day, and that should be that
Going to be finished before lunch
Seriously impressive bowling.
Trademark England collapse completed, 4/19 yesterday and 4/6 today
Great bowling, Abbas has impressed me a lot.
That little rally to make this not appear as much of a pasting as it really was is probably the worst thing that could have happened for English cricket going forward.
Great ball.
This is a hammering. Are Pakistan very good or are England just useless? Or bit of both?
Bit of both, Root made a mistake in batting first in bowlers friendly conditions, fair play to Pakistan they made the most f it
I still don’t get that decision. Everyone knows how weak our batting is & a few early wickets we’d probably have collapsed. Tried to be too smart & it failed.
One thing that has impressed me about Pakistan has been the discipline. A very inexperienced side but we’ve shown patience with bat & ball and followed a game plan. Will be interesting if we can do that again in the next game.
Root is weak
Root is proper daft. 8 runs to win and he's sitting on his knees at silly point to a seamer literally begging to be hit.
That was disgraceful from Root at the end.
What on earth was he thinking?
What on earth was he thinking?
Ed Smith looks like a wannabe Bond villain.
Fantastic performance, especially when you consider how inexperienced our side is. Really didn’t expect that result or discipline from this side. Credit to the players & Arthur.
All the bowlers were very good, but really impressed by Abbas. He doesn’t seem too dangerous but keeps a very good line/length and gets it to move. I like the balance in our bowling with Faheem as an additional option who can bat a bit too. Shadab did well, when fit Yasir will come back in the side but I think Shadab is going to be a star if giving the correct support to develop his bowling in Tests.
Hope we can follow that performance with a similar one in the final Test.
All the bowlers were very good, but really impressed by Abbas. He doesn’t seem too dangerous but keeps a very good line/length and gets it to move. I like the balance in our bowling with Faheem as an additional option who can bat a bit too. Shadab did well, when fit Yasir will come back in the side but I think Shadab is going to be a star if giving the correct support to develop his bowling in Tests.
Hope we can follow that performance with a similar one in the final Test.
What did he do?
Should've had an India Pakistan test match or two in England..
Was thinking that earlier. Wish they'd feck off with the politics & play at least a 2 match series in England.
Got bored of bowling line and length after about 3 overs and brought Wood on to bowl short and bess to bowl filth.
Obviously England wouldn't have won anyway, but you can at least bowl properly and make them play decent cricket to finish it off.
Our bowling line up is top drawer and also English batting is hopeless. There is noone apart from Cook and Root. Its a bit shocking to see the likes of Buttler playing Test cricket. As for Pakistani batting there are a lot of talented guys there so I am not surprised they played well. The Test in Ireland and two matches against counties were good prep.
Really don't think it's top drawer mate. Amir definitely, but the rest? They wouldn't have got a game in the days of Wasim, Waqar, Mushtaq and Azhar Mahmood.
The fact is that England are a poor test side. Buttler was a good selection - if test cricket is dying we can at least pick players who put bums on seats, and England have room for a wild card player given the number of all-rounders they have. But the bowling is really average. It seems there is noone strong enough to tell Broad and Anderson what to do, even when they are patently bowling too short. And Wood isn't great as a shock bowler.
The batting is also really lacking. Bet Hick and Ramprakash can't believe the number of chances Stoneman's had. Plus the whole thing about Root batting 3 is stupid. If he's best at 4, leave him there. Plenty of great players have batted below 3 (Tendulkar, Pietersen, Clarke, Flower, Steve Waugh to name but a few).
Bayliss has to be sacked as test coach, surely. With the players we've got, our record is appalling and we should be able to attract a top-class red ball coach easily.