Considering what we paid for Sancho and for unproven Antony. 100m for Enzo are peanuts these days.
Enzo Fernández | signs for Chelsea
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Yes they’ll have the squad but do they have the manager to get the best out of the squad? They’ve not exactly been that good now and they’ve got a halve decent team.
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Chelsea and two other top European clubs have offered to pay Benfica €127m for Enzo Fernandez. As it isn't the release clause of €120m [cash upfront], they don’t want to sell for now. There are multiple meetings in Portugal to define the situation.
The sort of money being mentioned will make him go from a player I loved, to one I'm starting to think of as extremely overrated. He did very well at the world cup. He wasn't exactly spellbinding.
3 wrongs don't make a right my friend
He's got an engine like Arturo Vidal did IMO, is as competitive and he can run and pass the ball very very well.
He will part of any top midfield, worth the money. He's one of those signings you don't want a rival to have.
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On the flip side, he has a skill set that would make it very easy to fit in and be a contributor even with a high price tag.
I think big money signings run the risk of flopping often times when a players skill set doesn’t mesh with his new team/philosophy. Grealish and Sancho come to mind. I actually think both would have been better off swapping places as it would have fit in with United and City better respectively.
Enzo’s immediately going to bring tackling and passing ability and work rate to whatever club buys him, which will mean even if he doesn’t end up being the next Casemiro he’s still a player that can contribute in any side.
He has only played 13 games for Benfica.
Why the hell cant we identify South American talent prior to their moves to Europe?
Why the hell cant we identify South American talent prior to their moves to Europe?
Bring him in. Over 10 years he could give us that’s a solid investment.
Can't compare Enzo to Casemiro, they're different players. Enzo has good positionig and defensive skills but he's more of an organizer. I think his profile is closer to Toni Kroos.
Look at the first post in this thread. We were interested in him. Just didn't pull the trigger. Which also, real Madrid didn't either even though they too were interested. Usually going to Benfica is a decent step to see how they handle European football. They normally don't explode and boss the world Cup right away though...
I haven't seen anything to suggest he has the engine of vidal. Also, the skillset you mentioned is not worth £100M in it's complete form, let alone as potential in my opinion. He's a good player with potential but all this is just post world cup silliness. It would be very silly to buy a young player at the highest value he'll be.
He was well-known to us but we pulled another Alvarez situation
Tap up and bid 30 million for Kovacic if this goes through. Either now or in the summer.
Assuming this fella is reliable i wonder who the other 2 are.
Didn't Man Utd have a partnership with Sporting Lisbon in the past? You would think that this would be the ideal business relationship to bring unproven talent over to Europe and place them with a feeder club to see how they fare.
Benfica signed this guy for £8m literally 6 months ago, and he's now supposed to be worth over £100m. This is stupid.
Probably Liverpool and Madrid.
Watch him at Benfica and River Plate it's not just the WC
115m£ for Enzo, 80-100 for rice, you still need a striker. I think that's insane spending even for Chelsea. Don't forget the wages you have to pay.
Manchester United and Liverpool I assume. I've read that United as willing to pay 127M but in installments. Benfica wants all the money at once.
That has nothing to do with his actual price. He was worth way more, but Argentina's economy keeps players being cheap. Look at Brazil selling 16 yo Endrick for 70M or Vinicius Jr. for 45M being kids.
This one will be a bit gutting.
FFS. I've wanted this guy badly for months but made peace with the fact we couldn't get him when the stories of Liverpool's pre agreement came out.
Now I'm being set up for disappointment all over again
Now I'm being set up for disappointment all over again
No we need to buy Rice, Enzo Fernandez, Leao and Bellingham all for £100m each and then we need to buy a pair of CBs at £80m each because why not, we're Chelsea. And we also need a RB to cover for an injury prone Reece James, so let's just throw a bit of chump change that problem, shall we say, £50m? We should be good enough to challenge for top 4 after that I think.
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After United paying so much for Di Maria at Benfica and Garay in the past I can see Benfica favouring United
still got ptsd from all our Benfica links
Hopefully.
If this actually happens I'd like to think that means we're not touching Rice with a 10 foot pole.
Hopefully for some unknown reason Enzo picks United. A man can dream.
Is Boehly from the Middle East?
Some of his players spoke about how long it took Brighton to learn and get fluid with Potters style, which is actually pretty complex. The results weren’t there, and then, once it started to click, the change was dramatic.
The football we played in the first half yesterday was gorgeous stuff. I think the idea that with patience and time Potter won’t have a super talented squad humming is wishful thinking, not reality.
Is there a player Chelsea don't want to buy?
Where is FFP in all of this?
Where is FFP in all of this?
Basically they are interested in whoever anyone else is.
I think Amrabat was as good as him in the World Cup, both the best midfielders of the tournament by far...but Amrabat didn't have Messi on his team, so Morocco couldn't beat France.
Lot of money though, i think nationality plays a big part, argentinian, portuguese,french and brazilian players are ,generally, more expensive than the rest.
It still feels a little out of control how Benfica and Porto keep flipping £10m signings into sales ranging from £60-100m. They're unbelievably good at leveraging that SA pipeline.
Or Benfica are clever and their connections in South America to grease the correct wheels to achieve the purchase of players like Fernandez is way advance of anything United's got. Maybe United 's team in SA sent back info that River Plate only wants 15m and the hierarchy went he can't be that good if they are only wanting that.
What's the plan then? We're also being linked to Rice and Bellingham who are also going to cost close to or over £100m each.
Bleak...
Hopefully mate but assuming laurie Whithwell is correct it's not looking good for us.
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