Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed

Zehner said:
My biggest issue with him was that he didn't set up the United team the way he set up his Ajax one. Most coaches are associated with one style and they adapt it to the players they have available but I had never seen that a coach abandoned the style which made him successful because he wanted the playstyle to fit the club culture. He was in charge of that and he enough money at his disposal to buy the players needed for it. He obviously didn't want to be less successful for stylistic reasons and thought he could be every bit as successful with transition football as he was with positional play but to me that is a huge, huge misconception and I automatically doubt a coach who makes such terrible decisions.

In Amsterdam, he has proven that he's able to coach a possession-oriented system to a high standard so the optimist in me thinks that there is still hope that we'd get the Ajax Ten Hag and not the United or Utrecht one. But I very much prefer a coach who is convinced of his tactical approach and doesn't change it based on what the fans and media want to see. I want somebody like Pep or Alonso who are convinced that positional play is the best and most successful way of playing football. Somebody with visions instead of pragmatism.

That he came across as very vane and small-time comes on top of that. As said, I could somehow live with his appointment and see the positive sodes but I'd prefer that I don't have to.
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Yup, apparently he was brought to make United play that way but then he gave up so what was the point? He should have been sacked at that point but United doubled down on him and in return he set the team in a downward trajectory they haven't recovered from yet.
 
Zehner said:
My biggest issue with him was that he didn't set up the United team the way he set up his Ajax one. Most coaches are associated with one style and they adapt it to the players they have available but I had never seen that a coach abandoned the style which made him successful because he wanted the playstyle to fit the club culture. He was in charge of that and he enough money at his disposal to buy the players needed for it. He obviously didn't want to be less successful for stylistic reasons and thought he could be every bit as successful with transition football as he was with positional play but to me that is a huge, huge misconception and I automatically doubt a coach who makes such terrible decisions.

In Amsterdam, he has proven that he's able to coach a possession-oriented system to a high standard so the optimist in me thinks that there is still hope that we'd get the Ajax Ten Hag and not the United or Utrecht one. But I very much prefer a coach who is convinced of his tactical approach and doesn't change it based on what the fans and media want to see. I want somebody like Pep or Alonso who are convinced that positional play is the best and most successful way of playing football. Somebody with visions instead of pragmatism.

That he came across as very vane and small-time comes on top of that. As said, I could somehow live with his appointment and see the positive sodes but I'd prefer that I don't have to.
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I don’t think he was molding his tactics to club culture. We gave him license he’d never had before and I think he tried to flesh out some really grandiose ideas which were never going to work. Like Pep in big matches at times but obviously he is not on that level, had no idea what he was doing in the transfer market and unfortunately had little to no accountability from the absent United club structure.

I think he would do fine for Leverkusen as he will have to stick to what he did best previously at Ajax.
 
EtH said:
I don’t think he was molding his tactics to club culture. We gave him license he’d never had before and I think he tried to flesh out some really grandiose ideas which were never going to work. Like Pep in big matches at times but obviously he is not on that level, had no idea what he was doing in the transfer market and unfortunately had little to no accountability from the absent United club structure.

I think he would do fine for Leverkusen as he will have to stick to what he did best previously at Ajax.
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Yep after 150 years of evolution of football tactics Erik thought he would reinvent the wheel with a half baked tactical set-up that it was clear wasn't working only 8 weeks after implementing it, yet he carried on with it for 18 months.
 
stevoc said:
Yep after 150 years of evolution of football tactics Erik thought he would reinvent the wheel with a half baked tactical set-up that it was clear wasn't working only 8 weeks after implementing it, yet he carried on with it for 18 months.
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And was allowed to do so. That’s the worst part.
 
EtH said:
And was allowed to do so. That’s the worst part.
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The first 6 months of last season there was no one steering the ship with the takeover going through. And I can understand the new ownership not wanting to come in and sack the manager right away. After that not sacking him in June was bad enough but allowing him to continue the madness into the next season bonkers. He should have been told to ditch the tactics and employ something more sensible.
 
If nothing else highlights the disaster of an appointment this bloke was, and his disturbingly poor judgement of players, it's his treatment of Amad.

9 league appearances under him, even putting Forson in the team ahead of him. He'd still be rotting on the bench. Absolute clown.
 
In the meantime it looks like he might not get the Leverkusen job. Some reports speculate that Sandro Wagner (until now Nagelsmann's assistant at the national team) could get it.

It seems to be sure that Wagner will take over a BL team next season but it is not yet known which one. Only Hoffenheim are known to have had an interest in him, but apparently he rejected them due to having another agreement already.
 
stefan92 said:
In the meantime it looks like he might not get the Leverkusen job. Some reports speculate that Sandro Wagner (until now Nagelsmann's assistant at the national team) could get it.

It seems to be sure that Wagner will take over a BL team next season but it is not yet known which one. Only Hoffenheim are known to have had an interest in him, but apparently he rejected them due to having another agreement already.
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Wagner has been ruled multiple times already, Fabregas seems to be in the pole position with Xavi and Ten Hag as alternatives. Hürzeler would also be ahead of them but unlikely he leaves Beighton.
 
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