Like I get it, the summer was poor and recruitment poor, but nobody expected the club to spend upwards of 200million on Sancho and Grealish right? Not to mention signing Upemecano in the same window, that's unrealistic for nearly all clubs nevermind us.
ESPN: Man United missed all of Solskjaer's targets including Sancho, Grealish - sources
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Thing is, if we got:
Sancho
Van de Beek
Telles
Pellistri and Cavani would have been gravy on top.
People wouldn't have complained (well, some would at the lack of CB but I think 3/4 would have been seen as OK and we could aim for the CB in January/next Summer). The mood around the club would have been so much different, especially if we got these players before fecking deadline day. Just get them done before a ball is kicked and the whole aura around a club becomes completely different.
Instead, despite me actually liking our signings even if I don't think we've really improved the first XI. Definitely not enough for me to be confident we can do better than last season.
Isn't it a bit like Shaw and Herrera already being in their thoughts when LvG joined. We have already scouted them, so you are getting them.
It was a reference to Woodward supposedly calling Man United "Disneyland" a few years back in regards to what we can do as a club...
Maybe they should have gone for more realistic targets in this troubled time. Every season United try to sign a 80million pound player and they rarely live up to their billing. Thats why we have such a big wage bill, investment and little success. Always with the Hollywood targets.
He has been given list by scouts and he also been discussing this with both Ed & Matt. If the club can’t afford players then they should have told him sooner.
It's missing Sancho that is making it look bad. The two youngster probably were going to be signed for their potential, but it makes it look like they are Sancho alternatives rather than just players for the future.
I mean this is key. The supposed list is Sancho, Ake / Upemecano and Grealish. Thats 250 mil in transfers alone. Was never going to be a scenario when this was likely to happen.
Ake was the most gettable and City got him early on. The other 3 are key players for their team and I don't think any of the clubs were desperate to sell (especially after Villa survived the drop).
its not ideal but we have strengthened (though not in the key areas). Maybe we might go back in January rather than panic buy in the window just past.
The buoyancy of the players at the end of last season. I really think they thought the likes of Sancho and Grealish were coming in.
It is a Woodward problem. We were an utter shambles well before Ole took over or are you just choosing to forget that because it doesn't fit the Ole out agenda?
Ole might not be the man for us long term, I have my doubts on that too. However Ed Woodforahead is the bigger problem. Even Stevie Wonder can see that's the case
No. its Gary Neville hyping the fanbase up on Sky Sports
As far as I remember he called Old Trafford "Disneyland" and not the club.
This is exactly the reason our club needs a DoF though. It seems like our managers always deflect attention away from their training ground work, to what the club needs to be doing for them. They have zero accountability for the job they are employed to be doing for 9 months of the year the transfer window is closed.
With a DoF there, he'd tell them to shut the feck up and get on with his job while he'll give him the players he thinks the club needs.
With a DoF there, he'd tell them to shut the feck up and get on with his job while he'll give him the players he thinks the club needs.
If only we hadn't had £1.5b sucked out of us in the last 15 years.
Right but considering the prices quoted thats like £250million in a summer before wages/agent fees after we spent over £100million last and in the midst of a global pandemic, I don't like the transfer window or the higher ups as much as anyone but come on this is unrealistic for nearly every club on the planet, even City probably wouldn't lay this amount down.
We'd have loved to have these players but im actually glad the club didn't bow down to a ridiculous 80 million for Grealish, a loan for Reguilon which can only really benefit Real Madrid, and 120 million for Sancho which again is way overpriced, the wrong doing is not moving on from targets quicker and getting in suitable alternatives in a much more concise and planned out manner.
So he wanted Sancho, Grealish, and Upamecano. That’s over £250m. Maybe instead of complaining about not getting preferred signings our managers should actually come up with some realistic lists.
The van Gaal list recently was just a who’s who of the best players in the world. No shit we’re not going to just sign them all.
The van Gaal list recently was just a who’s who of the best players in the world. No shit we’re not going to just sign them all.
Thiago, Strootman and Garay were what Fergie left for moyes to sign off on, wasn't it?The sad thing about this one is I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge by this point that SAF gift-wrapped the Thiago transfer for Moyes and all he had to do was green light it when he arrived. If he had kept the backroom staff and signed that lad, he might have seen out a year.
A cool quarter of a billion pounds plus worth of targets. Nice!
Yes, I am sorry you are a better fan than me.
A manager finishes 3rd, clearly wanted a CB, RW as priority. The club signed a LB, CM, 2 18 year olds.
If you are told to dig a hole - you ask for a shovel but are given a spoon, you are not going to succeed are you? when your competition are getting shovels and extra man power to help them.
Yeah, similar to LVG's lidt of targets.
200m right there. I suppose it's not his fault if the club told him that spending 200m was realistic.
Ole's transfer targets are simply ridiculously expensive and so far(the ones the club got him) not worth it. After pissing away 130m on Maguire and AWB, pissing away another 200m on 2 players Ole likes(Sancho and Grealish) sounds like madness a bit. Maybe Ole should start looking at transfers with great value for money, not just every single overrated and expensive British player on the block.
80 millions for Grealish is the sort of stupidity we did with Maguire's fee and Sancho isn't worth that arbitrary 120m Dortmund set for him. They're known fleecers, they've already fleeced Barca with them ridiculous pricings.
80 millions for Grealish is the sort of stupidity we did with Maguire's fee and Sancho isn't worth that arbitrary 120m Dortmund set for him. They're known fleecers, they've already fleeced Barca with them ridiculous pricings.
Yeah you said that getting the first choice doesn't guarantee success, so I listed all of the first teamers we've signed under Ole, but I don't removing Bruno for purpose of discussion.For the money we have paid I would have expected them to perform at a higher level than what they have shown so far
I like how you have suddenly included Bruno to the list that I didn't include
What more could AWB and Maguire have done, realistically? We were a poor team before they came in, conceding too many and scoring too little. They've improved our defence massively if you think about where we were before them! The number of games they played without rest is commendable too.
£120m for Maguire and AWB is not much difference to £90m for Ake & Cancelo, £100m for Otamendi and Walker, £100m for Mendy and Dias, especially when you consider the English tax.
These aren't marquee big name signings we were interested in, we wanted the next generation of superior talent.
Ohhh Nooooo.
Come on don´t act so surprised. Everyone here knew what was going to happen this summer.
It´s hope that kills you.
Come on don´t act so surprised. Everyone here knew what was going to happen this summer.
It´s hope that kills you.
Because we have lawyers and bankers making football decisions for us during recruitment.
The reason he needs a CB is because the one he bought last season for a WR fee is bang average. If he lived up to his price tag we wouldn't need one this summer.
The reason we need a RW is because he bought a RB who's dogshit going forward. So we now need to replace one of our best forwards for the fact he bought a RB who offers absolute feck all in attack. Guess what, even if we got Sancho that right side would still be pathetic cause you can't play football with a RB as useless at AWB on the ball.
Exactly. Also people ought to be happy we didn't dare spend that much money on 2 players only after seeing what happened to our 130m investment on Maguire and AWB. As much as it'd have been great having Sancho here and even Grealish, for the amount quoted, it became impossible to pull that off.
And you are assuming those players are ones Ole has asked for because.....the media claims so?
Perhaps because Ole's target's are too expensive? With the spending this summer they could've delivered one of Ole's targets. Only one, and no other players.
Why does Solskjaer not come out and question the board/Woodward?
Chances are he doesn't have a huge amount of time left in the job anyway. Go down swinging, not quietly accepting them fecking you over.
Chances are he doesn't have a huge amount of time left in the job anyway. Go down swinging, not quietly accepting them fecking you over.
Pretty much this. Was expecting us to have a silent window. Still got drawn into the Sancho saga for a while.
Hows it a Woodward problem ? Blame him for not getting a right winger but not for not getting Sancho, Jack and Dalot.
Ole has messed up big time in terms of transfers. The cultural reset thing has been a total failure . So if anyone thinks twice about Ole's targets, I wouldn't blame him.
That’s on both Ole and the board. How can every manager since SAF only have this wish list with dream players and no adequate back ups? How can they live in such a dream land? It’s either Woodward promises them that he will get them their prime targets no matter what. But even then the managers by now must be completely naive to believe him.
If you want both Sancho and Grealish - who albeit very good players are extremely expensive - then you have to at least sell Pogba for good money first.
Also after buying two very expensive defenders last year Ole can hardly complain about not getting another expensive defender.
The manager and the board need to work closely on transfers and on 1st / 2nd choices.
That’s not been happening here. Woodward is definitely to blame, but are all our (ex) managers day dreaming?
There’s no way that in whole Europe there are no hidden gems or other good players ready to start for us.
I remember when we signed RvP there were a lot of comments on how he is the first player we have signed in a long time who is that famous and established that we don’t need to watch a YouTube video to see how good he is.
Before that we hardly signed famous or superstar players.
But now if we don’t sign a 20-year old who has only convinced for a couple of years in a BVB environment for ridiculous money it’s perceived as a disaster.
If you want both Sancho and Grealish - who albeit very good players are extremely expensive - then you have to at least sell Pogba for good money first.
Also after buying two very expensive defenders last year Ole can hardly complain about not getting another expensive defender.
The manager and the board need to work closely on transfers and on 1st / 2nd choices.
That’s not been happening here. Woodward is definitely to blame, but are all our (ex) managers day dreaming?
There’s no way that in whole Europe there are no hidden gems or other good players ready to start for us.
I remember when we signed RvP there were a lot of comments on how he is the first player we have signed in a long time who is that famous and established that we don’t need to watch a YouTube video to see how good he is.
Before that we hardly signed famous or superstar players.
But now if we don’t sign a 20-year old who has only convinced for a couple of years in a BVB environment for ridiculous money it’s perceived as a disaster.
Is the intention of the article to show that Ole's targets were completely unachievable and Woodward was right 
So you have also conveniently excluded James, I wonder why?
Are you talking about the same Maguire who cost us £80m when he hasn't done much better than Smalling and Lindelof who we have sold the former for a quarter of his price....
Yet another load of b*ll*x thread to wind up the gullibles.
Another thread to put on ignore.
Bye.
Another thread to put on ignore.
Bye.
The "bang average" centre back he brought in last season has come in and shown just how bad the other centre half - who was many peoples player of the bloody season in 2018/19 - is. A poor start to the season and clowns on here are completely rewriting history.
It's not difficult to believe that Ole wanted a RW and a CB considering everyone and their nan knows they're they two biggest areas we need to improve on.
I don't know, senior figures at the club were making a big deal out of scouting the world for the best RBs and AWB's metrics were the best out of 804 right backs.