Only country with proper football ownership
European Super League
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Lukas Podolski: "This project is disgusting, not fair and I'm disappointed to see clubs I represented involved"
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You respect it if it comes from clubs that have been historically bankrolled?
JP Morgan taking care of the investment.
3/6 top 6 teams in EPL has American owners.
ESL that no genunie football fan wants.
Whats next, commercials half way through the first and second half?
Seriously, get this American capitalist BS away from our beautiful european game.
3/6 top 6 teams in EPL has American owners.
ESL that no genunie football fan wants.
Whats next, commercials half way through the first and second half?
Seriously, get this American capitalist BS away from our beautiful european game.
The CL group stages are generally boring bar the odd big team elimination, even more so for europa league groups where hardly anyone decent is knocked out.
So basically with this format you're playing 3 times as many group matches before you get to the knock out rounds where it heats up.
Takeovers are probably irrelevant to this. I bet Madrid, Barcelona, Manutd, Liverpool, Arsenal, and the Italian clubs etc. would have still sought this out, eventually. The current owners aren't the only greedy people on the planet.
The takeovers just add City, Chelsea (they might have qualified regardless), and PSG as potential candidates. PSG aren't even joining, supposedly.
It potentially accelerated the process, but it would have happened at one point.
Simple.
They are far from having the same financial issues as Spanish and Italian clubs, and are not owned by Russian/Middle East oligarchs or US business tycoons.
Oh, excellent stuff. We can all rest easy now, our fears of it being a tedious, money-driven enterprise with no element of fairness and competition have been quelled by @TrustInJanuzaj with that statement.
Imagine this season in the PL with a super league. All the super league clubs other than City would have nothing to play for since end of January (or even before that in some of the teams cases) as soon as City ran away with the title. You'd see them all resting players for mid week super league games. Why even bother watching the PL when nothing to play for?
I reckon the big 6 might be in for quite a big shock if they try and force this through. Pretty certain it'll collapse one way or another.
The CL expansion is also a terrible idea though. The administration of football generally is a shambles and this half baked super league plan is the result.
The general situation. I know this has beeb threatened before many times but cant believe United are pushing ahead with this.
Honestly, they were just an example. I don't know enough about French football. I could've said, St Etienne or Troyes. Doesn't really matter.
The bucs were pretty much shit for the last 15 years until Brady showed up, his contract wasn’t even that much that man just wants to win and he brings players who want to win as well and that will fit Cap space because they know they have a chance of winning.
I'd be all for that, but seeing as Cork City were relegated to the second tier of League of Ireland last year it probably a touch unrealistic.
Then again, if Spurs can be in a Super League you never know.
We have domestic stadiums to fill. What's stopping a self run streaming service for all 'new breakaway PL' being set up? I'm sure more teams would happily sign up if they were guaranteed more money than they currently get in the PL.
The point is they didn't have to. They could have been happy to participate and rake in the money.
Hey, we can all dream right? Didn't know Cork had fallen on hard times.
What about after a few games when it is apparent who the top 5 will be so all games between bottom 5 will be absolutely pointless. Especially if the founders are in the bottom 5 as they will still be in the competition again next year. no matter what
I'm sure he wouldn't but he went there and got his check. Let's not forget he left United to get that check. I'm not saying that they are the main culprits but he's certainly a part of the problem.
Can't do much more than laugh about the hypocrisy
Without relegation the european super league will be a necropolis of the living dead. You have to be able to die in order to live. You have to be able to lose in order to win. Otherwise we're just paying to see a bunch of men randomly kick a piece of leather.
Do you want players to speak up or not? What the feck is even this opinion.
Chris Purslow putting it really well:
The Villa chief executive Christian Purslow, formerly of Liverpool, has branded the Super League a “grotesque concept”. Speaking to BBC Radio Four, he said: “These proposals do away with sporting merit. It would enable a small number of clubs to be in this competition come what may and, for millions of people in football, that goes against everything the sport means and stands for. The idea is that the uncertainty that comes with sport, that makes it so compelling, that we all love, is actually damaging to the business model of these huge clubs. So the scheme is designed to take away that uncertainty, to give predictability to their businesses so that, if they’re badly managed or have a poor year, they’re still in the premier tournament. Does that sound like sport or football to you? To me it sounds a grotesque concept.”
The Villa chief executive Christian Purslow, formerly of Liverpool, has branded the Super League a “grotesque concept”. Speaking to BBC Radio Four, he said: “These proposals do away with sporting merit. It would enable a small number of clubs to be in this competition come what may and, for millions of people in football, that goes against everything the sport means and stands for. The idea is that the uncertainty that comes with sport, that makes it so compelling, that we all love, is actually damaging to the business model of these huge clubs. So the scheme is designed to take away that uncertainty, to give predictability to their businesses so that, if they’re badly managed or have a poor year, they’re still in the premier tournament. Does that sound like sport or football to you? To me it sounds a grotesque concept.”
Agnelli being a snake isn't exactly knew, anyone that has been following the UEFA-ECA dealing in the last decades knows that he is the head snake and has been pushing for these kind of things from day one. It's part of the revamping he has started with Juventus including their awful new logo.
I disagree with this as a principle, but watching the best players playing against each other every week should be the dream for every football fan. The group stages are boring because 50% of the teams in the competition are dross. I guarantee that playing Madrid will never get boring, nor will Ronaldo Vs Messi etc. It would be the highest level of football ever showcased.
So? Again, not his fault PSG offered him that much money. You're telling me, if you could basically double your wage (weekly), you wouldn't take it? People want money. Players aren't the issue here, the owners are.
It would be worse if he didn't say anything, though. It needs more players speaking out against it, but ideally from the clubs that are going to be joining.
Isn't that part of the new UCL proposal?
I'd expect PSG will be well on board once their owners are confident their won't be any negative impact toward the World Cup they're hosting
Hot take: IF a group of players from any of the big 6 clubs in England actually takes a stand publicly, this could quickly spin into a actual social movement that can stop this thing in its tracks.
Hey Marcus, want to fasttrack that Sir title? Post a tweet.
Hey Marcus, want to fasttrack that Sir title? Post a tweet.
I'm calling out the insane amount of hypocrisy on display.
The only thing missing is Saudi Arabia taking a humanitarian stand against the World Cup in Qatar
As I've said there are 1000 reasons why this shouldn't happen, but anyone using 'boring' as a reason is simply wrong. These would be the best players and clubs competing against each other every week. That never will be boring I'm sorry if people cant see that through the rightful outrage.
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The destroying of national leagues is just one issue I have with it, there’s many more where they haven’t cared one bit about match going fans that have made football what it is and are clearly going global tv rights route.
Teams will still want to win the prem yes, but if they’re also in the super league that will obviously take priority so players will be rested/youth played in the prem, and with the super league teams having no real objective to win the prem or finish high as it wouldn’t lead to qualification of anything anyway. So when these 6 finish in random places in the top ten, possibly relegation places the champions league and Europa league places will be taken up by a mish mash of positions not the top teams of the league. It’ll be a mess.
The destroying of national leagues is just one issue I have with it, there’s many more where they haven’t cared one bit about match going fans that have made football what it is and are clearly going global tv rights route.
Why is the club wanting more money an issue then? You could apply the exact same logic.
What if, I dunno, money is better distributed so that there are no dross teams...????
Oh right, too crazy sure
People want money, yet here you are complaining over the super league?
I'm not saying that he's personally the one who has skewered the system. But if you take that paycheck then you should know that there will be ramifications at some point on a global level at some point.
Nothing comes for free.
Twitter thread on the new owners of AC Milan
Apologies if this thread has been posted before, but I thought it needed to be shared... feck me. The game is beyond gone.
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Ok. You call out the only people with influence who can do anything whatsoever about this every time they comment. That will teach them.
For sure, don't for one minute believe PSG will make any kind of stand, they haven't got the legs to stand with.
Yes, but so are Real, Barsa and Atlético. I wonder if their rules and regulations allow them to make this move without consulting their members?