Phil
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Can I just say the BBC coverage has been consistently shit. Showing everything but the game.
He is overpriced. No doubt. But then again his value is dictated by how much we need him. Not by how much he would be valuable for a better defense, say, City.VVD looks what I thought. Good player, nothing more. 75m is double his value.
Once again, he might not be anything special in the absolute sense. What matters is how much improvement he brings to OUR performances. Don't know why you can't get this simple fact.He is nothing special. Certainly worth nothing like 75m. Got skinned by Bolasie, gave the ball away sloppily and scored thanks to a keeping error.
Ok troll, how about you try to answer something with real objectivity and insight. NOBODY is saying he is worth 70m for every/any team. It doesn't matter as long as he improves us considerably.From a goalkeeping error..
He was ok. Nothing more. Not 75m
Let him be mate, he just likes trolling on Liverpool threads. I don't even think he means what he posts.You're trying too hard here.
No defenders live up to their price tag over the course of one game.
Thank you. Exactly what I have been trying to say.Agree. Of all people we shouldn't be constantly mentioning the 75m. I hated it when people did that to Pogba, as if he had any say in that.
Sure, VVD isn't worth 75m but does that change anything about him? Played a good debut match, whether he cost 20m or 100m.
Ok troll/wum, no Liverpool fan definitely says he is the best in England, forget the world. But what we do kind of agree on is that he will be quite invaluable if he improves our defence considerably. Are you even capable of an objective/rational/logical discussion.They don't seem to like the fact they have spent a world record fee for a defender on a player that isn't even the best in England, let alone the world.
Mate, it's been 1 game... He literally just scored the winner tooVVD looks what I thought. Good player, nothing more. 75m is double his value.
Yeah how much is that next round worth? Already knocked 2-3M off the fee.Mate, it's been 1 game... He literally just scored the winner too
He is nothing special. Certainly worth nothing like 75m. Got skinned by Bolasie, gave the ball away sloppily and scored thanks to a keeping error.Mate, it's been 1 game... He literally just scored the winner too
Thought he was solid apart from getting done once by Bolasie. No, not worth £75 million, but a much needed addition.He is nothing special. Certainly worth nothing like 75m. Got skinned by Bolasie, gave the ball away sloppily and scored thanks to a keeping error.
He was good in the air. Didn't see much of the brilliant ball player though.Thought he was solid apart from getting done once by Bolasie. No, not worth £75 million, but a much needed addition.
Not sure I saw him give the ball away much? Lost a couple of headers he maybe should’ve won.
He's out injured and won't be back for a couple of months I don't thinkRobertson was fantastic. I hope Moreno doesn’t come back in straight away.
Roberston is a cracking little player. He's an old school type of full back and it's lovely to see a Scottish player again at Liverpool.Robertson was fantastic. I hope Moreno doesn’t come back in straight away.
From a goalkeeping error..VVD got done once, otherwise did what he had to do and then scored the winner. Not sure how much more you can ask for from a debut.
Not sure if this is the right time to be pushing your agenda. He just scored a last minute derby winner.He was good in the air. Didn't see much of the brilliant ball player though.
Good player but just massively over priced and overrated.
Agenda? I keep saying he's a good player but nothing like the best in the league let alone the world.Not sure if this is the right time to be pushing your agenda. He just scored a last minute derby winner.
I didn’t feel this way a few weeks ago but I do now. The last thing we need is a dogfight for 2nd. City are going to win the league, so I’d rather they take points off all our rivals so we can focus more on the CL and FA Cup.I think I'd rather see City smash Liverpool next weekend then for them to end their unbeaten record...
And Everton are a joke, absolute pointless against Liverpool. Waste of everyone's time
You're trying too hard here.From a goalkeeping error..
He was ok. Nothing more. Not 75m
I don’t think we bought him for his passing. Statistically he’s the best CB in the league at winning aerial duels (something that has been a weakness for us) and he’s something like third best when it comes to interceptions (something important for any side that tries to play a pressing game like we do).He was good in the air. Didn't see much of the brilliant ball player though.
Good player but just massively over priced and overrated.
So it wasn't an error?You're trying too hard here.
No defenders live up to their price tag over the course of one game.
you're just coming across a tad too desperate to downplay his performance. No one is shouting 'that's what a 75m centreback looks like!'So it wasn't an error?
Apparently that was Danny Murphy.Best bit of the BBC coverage was the replay at the end of the Everton fan on crutches jumping up and down waving them in the air after their goal. And Peter Reid was like..he won't get his benefits now, he's been caught.
Agree. Of all people we shouldn't be constantly mentioning the 75m. I hated it when people did that to Pogba, as if he had any say in that.you're just coming across a tad too desperate to downplay his performance. No one is shouting 'that's what a 75m centreback looks like!'
He had a very good game.
I'm just being real with you. I can see why you're all raving as you haven't had a half decent centre half since Carragher.you're just coming across a tad too desperate to downplay his performance. No one is shouting 'that's what a 75m centreback looks like!'
He had a very good game.
They don't seem to like the fact they have spent a world record fee for a defender on a player that isn't even the best in England, let alone the world.To be fair to Religion it's not exactly the first time we've seen him play.
You didn't mention Bolasie mugging him off, misplaced passes and the fact he scored a header in an open goal due to a goalkeeping calamity.Religion being the WUM we all know and love hahaha !
Van Dijk v Everton:
5 Aerial Duels won (more than anyone)
79 Touches (Second most on the pitch)
2 Shots on target (More than anyone)
1 Goal.
2 Interceptions (Most for Liverpool)
62 Passes (More than anyone on the field)
4 Long Passes (More than anyone for Liverpool).
Very much surprised that he got 79 touches and came second, same for 62 passes and came first. Were your attackers that bad ?Religion being the WUM we all know and love hahaha !
Van Dijk v Everton:
5 Aerial Duels won (more than anyone)
79 Touches (Second most on the pitch)
2 Shots on target (More than anyone)
1 Goal.
2 Interceptions (Most for Liverpool)
62 Passes (More than anyone on the field)
4 Long Passes (More than anyone for Liverpool).
Bolasie beat him once, hardly a mugging off is it?You didn't mention Bolasie mugging him off, misplaced passes and the fact he scored a header in an open goal due to a goalkeeping calamity.
Yes. Some very sloppy passing from the likes of Lallana, Mane, Can etc. Lallana looked well off the pace.Very much surprised that he got 79 touches and came second, same for 62 passes and came first. Were your attackers that bad ?
I don't need to .. you love to exaggerate so we'll go with all of those just to keep you happy shall we ?You didn't mention Bolasie mugging him off, misplaced passes and the fact he scored a header in an open goal due to a goalkeeping calamity.
What have I exaggerated?I don't need to .. you love to exaggerate so we'll go with all of those just to keep you happy shall we ?
And Pogba was either of those things?They don't seem to like the fact they have spent a world record fee for a defender on a player that isn't even the best in England, let alone the world.