FAO English Club Fans whose team won this week in the CL

crappycraperson said:
Are you thick?
For a last 16 stage , Leverkusen are an easy draw. But for pool facing some one like WBA would qualify as an easy draw. Most teams would bend over backawards to have the draw pool had.
I for one wanted united to have a tough draw and I wanted to see how we measure up against like of Milan
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Not very well it would appear

You ask one of the most bizarre questions ever, and then accuse the poster who replied of being thick....for not knowing "who to expect to draw" in the last 16

I was happy with anyone but Juventus. That will also be the case next round if we get through
 
crappycraperson said:
I for one wanted united to have a tough draw and I wanted to see how we measure up against like of Milan
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I wanted a harder draw as well. Whats your point?

I would have loved to have seen a Barca or milan type team at anfield.
 
crappycraperson said:
Are you thick?
For a last 16 stage , Leverkusen are an easy draw. But for pool facing some one like WBA would qualify as an easy draw. Most teams would bend over backawards to have the draw pool had.
I for one wanted united to have a tough draw and I wanted to see how we measure up against like of Milan
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You should know that Leverkusen are no walk overs, you suffered at the hands of them a couple of years back too. Leverkusen are an easy draw compared to Milan, Barca, Real etc. but they are still a strong team that shouldn't be underestimated. Our win may have looked like a stroll in the park but it will be completely different in Germany, if you think Leverkusen are a poor team then maybe you shouldn't be the one handing out insults.
 
Davo said:
They won away to Blackburn, you drew

If you think they're a one man team you're more clueless than I thought

and that takes some doing
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Was talking about playing style, you inbred. No, they have Terry and a good defensive line-up with Cech. Their entire attacking play is done through Robben, it was infact he who got a lucky deflection in this game when he scored before getting injured, or how would you explain their difficulties scoring lately? Attacking is a fairly vital part of football, why would a team that has no such play be considered great?
 
AhmedDimwitson said:
:lol: , have you seen them play lately? they play that defensive shit against the likes of Blackburn etc. And you hit the nail on the head when you said they miss Robben, i.e. they are a one man team, therefore it is a tad hard to talk about permanent class when they are in a situation where one player goes missing and they are fecked. So how do you define "permanent class"?

You can talk about permanent class when you talk about United, i.e. been in the ABSOLUTE top for the last 15 years.
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Chelsea didn't do too badly last night considering they were down to ten men, away from home against one of the best teams in Europe. They don't have the same attacking flair without Robben but are by no means a one man team. That defence is the type that you could build an empire on and I would be surprised if they let their lead in the PL slip. I think you are a top team but Chelsea have the edge over you. Why can't you admit other teams are good as well as yours? :confused:
 
LWAR said:
You should know that Leverkusen are no walk overs, you suffered at the hands of them a couple of years back too. Leverkusen are an easy draw compared to Milan, Barca, Real etc. but they are still a strong team that shouldn't be underestimated. Our win may have looked like a stroll in the park but it will be completely different in Germany, if you think Leverkusen are a poor team then maybe you shouldn't be the one handing out insults.
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You should be embarrased if you dont advance now.

My point was at this point in the comp. of course only tough teams will be involved.
"Oohh we are facing a tough team , its a tough draw. "

Leverkusen, pool, porto, PSV and Monaco are probably considerably weaker than other teams in the comp, and 2 ties came out of this lot is disapponting.
 
AhmedDimwitson said:
Was talking about playing style, you inbred. No, they have Terry and a good defensive line-up with Cech. Their entire attacking play is done through Robben, it was infact he who got a lucky deflection in this game when he scored before getting injured, or how would you explain their difficulties scoring lately? Attacking is a fairly vital part of football, why would a team that has no such play be considered great?
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As per usual you're talking nonsense

Yes Robben is a cracking player, of course they miss him. However, they've got players such as Duff, Lampard and Drogba....to discount them is Ahmedignorant.

They can't be called a great side yet, I agree. However, they're currently the best side in the country....to claim otherwise is stupid in the extreme
 
crappycraperson said:
You should be embarrased if you dont advance now.

My point was at this point in the comp. of course only tough teams will be involved.
"Oohh we are facing a tough team , its a tough draw. "

Leverkusen, pool, porto, PSV and Monaco are probably considerably weaker than other teams in the comp, and 2 ties came out of this lot is disapponting.
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Not as simple as that. Monaco and Porto contested the final last year, after beating "better" teams along the way...
 
Richter said:
Pool and Leverkusen are the worst teams left in CL of course it was an easy draw.
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You obviously didn't see Werder Bremen last night, or PSV and Monaco the night before.

This has been going round in my mind since the draw was made, and every time I reach a conclusion, it's the same one.

Anyone that thinks Liverpool FC has an easy draw is spouting shite.

The media/critics/you lot etc build us up whenever it suits, i.e for this tie, yet they/you also write us off, play our chances down for things when it suits i.e this tie.

One minute we're shite with no chance of winning anything, the next we're a massive club, and it will be a shock etc if we lose to (insert opponents here).

It's bollocks.

We aren't as good as the majority of sides left in this, we are definitely one of the weakest. Yet I keep hearing that we had a good draw in getting Leverkusen (a team that qualified from a group containing Real Madrid, Roma and Dinamo Kiev - proper European heavyweights). Our draw is no better than anyone elses. It might be 'easier' than we could have had, but it's certainly not 'easy'.
 
crappycraperson said:
Leverkusen, pool, porto, PSV and Monaco are probably considerably weaker than other teams in the comp, and 2 ties came out of this lot is disapponting.
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:lol:

And which bracket does your illustrious club fall into? because your certainly not in the same bracket as milan barcelona etc.
 
crappycraperson said:
Leverkusen, pool, porto, PSV and Monaco are probably considerably weaker than other teams in the comp, and 2 ties came out of this lot is disapponting.
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Fair enough but I'm not getting arrogant about our win. They are very strong at home and it will be tougher than you seem to think. I would be very dissapointed if we didn't get through but they are a good team, not the best but still very good.
 
--LFC1892-- said:
:lol:

And which bracket does your illustrious club fall into? because your certainly not in the same bracket as milan barcelona etc.
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Certainly better than pool and the other lot I mentioned.
If we go on to lose to Milan convicingly without giving any fight, then no they we dont belong in the same bracket as them.
I can accept that, can you?
 
LWAR said:
Chelsea didn't do too badly last night considering they were down to ten men, away from home against one of the best teams in Europe. They don't have the same attacking flair without Robben but are by no means a one man team. That defence is the type that you could build an empire on and I would be surprised if they let their lead in the PL slip. I think you are a top team but Chelsea have the edge over you. Why can't you admit other teams are good as well as yours? :confused:
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Their defence is built around an ultra defensive style of play i.e. crowding the defense. This affects the transition, the key is to have a balance. Chelsea hasn't, they aren't able to run a game against top opposition, they can merely defend and counter attack. For that they need Robben as the rest are not good enough. United and Arsenal are better, they have a complete game, can defend, attack, can dominate / set the pace against anyone if they so want to. Chelsea do not. Same shit as you under Houllier but with better players.
 
LWAR said:
Fair enough but I'm not getting arrogant about our win. They are very strong at home and it will be tougher than you seem to think. I would be very dissapointed if we didn't get through but they are a good team, not the best but still very good.
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yeap, that was the point I was making. Some one had to had to get an easy draw, pool got one.
Whats annoying is that you lot can again get PSV or Monaco in the next round. :(
 
Los Rojos said:
Our draw is no better than anyone elses. It might be 'easier' than we could have had, but it's certainly not 'easy'.
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For you it is not easy even. All other top teams would walk over them and admit they had easy opposition instead of trying to play them up.
 
crappycraperson said:
Certainly better than pool and the other lot I mentioned.
If we go on to lose to Milan convicingly without giving any fight, then no they we dont belong in the same bracket as them.
I can accept that, can you?
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Fair enough....

But you cant slag of our team for no reason. We can only beat whats put in front of us. I suggest you reserve your judgements for when we come up against a Barcelona or madrid type team (if we progress).
 
AhmedDimwitson said:
For you it is not easy even. All other top teams would walk over them and admit they had easy opposition instead of trying to play them up.
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Like Real did when they lost 3-0

There was harder teams to draw than Bayer. But who cares...we drew Bayer and beat them, whilst all the other English teams weren't good enough to do the business
 
--LFC1892-- said:
Fair enough....

But you cant slag of our team for no reason. We can only beat whats put in front of us. I suggest you reserve your judgements for when we come up against a Barcelona or madrid type team (if we progress).
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Where have I slagged off pool?
Its obvious you arent in the same class as Barca or Milan, you are 5th in the league FFS.
 
AhmedDimwitson said:
Their defence is built around an ultra defensive style of play i.e. crowding the defense. This affects the transition, the key is to have a balance. Chelsea hasn't, they aren't able to run a game against top opposition, they can merely defend and counter attack. For that they need Robben as the rest are not good enough. United and Arsenal are better, they have a complete game, can defend, attack, can dominate / set the pace against anyone if they so want to. Chelsea do not. Same shit as you under Houllier but with better players.
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They've done a pretty good job so far this season, they're weaker without Robben but they have the ability to attack through Duff, Lampard and Drogba/Gudjohnsen too. A top team can always grind out results which they've been doing whilst off form but when on form I think they have the ability to control games. Didn't they score something like 20 goals in 5 games at one point this season? You can say that Utd and Arsenal are better but Chelsea are the team at the top of the table. We'll have to wait and see whether Mourinho's tactics pay off.
 
AhmedDimwitson said:
For you it is not easy even. All other top teams would walk over them and admit they had easy opposition instead of trying to play them up.
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I bet Madrid thought that before they had their arses tanned.

Like I said, they came through possibly the hardest group, with a very good record, they deserve to be here as much as anyone.

I could maybe accept those type of comments if Liverpool where one of the best teams still left in the competiton - but we aren't.
 
crappycraperson said:
Where have I slagged off pool?
Its obvious you arent in the same class as Barca or Milan, you are 5th in the league FFS.
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Maybe not directly slagged off but you tend to fire many little smart arsed digs at liverpool. :nono:
 
I think people are making too much of Leverkusen tharshing Madrid 3-0. We all know Real fail to turn up a lot of time. I have seen them play pure shit against medicore spanish oppositions
 
Davo said:
Like Real did when they lost 3-0

There was harder teams to draw than Bayer. But who cares...we drew Bayer and beat them, whilst all the other English teams weren't good enough to do the business
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:boring: Yes, that is indeed very impressive Davo.
 
AhmedDimwitson said:
For you it is not easy even. All other top teams would walk over them and admit they had easy opposition instead of trying to play them up.
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We took a 1-0 lead to Germany a couple of years ago and got knocked out, that year I was confident we would progress. Instead of playing them up maybe I have just learnt that you can't underestimate any team at this stage of the competition. I also doubt many other top teams would have the same attitude that you possess, just ask Real Madrid fans if they think Bayer are a walk over.
 
--LFC1892-- said:
Maybe not directly slagged off but you tend to fire many little smart arsed digs at liverpool. :nono:
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Eh?
Sensitive lots you are.
You clearly got one the easier draw, I don see how that is slagging off pool. Its a mere fact.
You are clearly a part of second string teams left in the competition, again its a fact considering you are 5th in your domestic league, not slagging
 
Los Rojos said:
I could maybe accept those type of comments if Liverpool where one of the best teams still left in the competiton - but we aren't.
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wtf? no shit sherlock..
 
crappycraperson said:
I think people are making too much of Leverkusen tharshing Madrid 3-0. We all know Real fail to turn up a lot of time. I have seen them play pure shit against medicore spanish oppositions
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Yeah nothing to do with Bayer, all down to Real

Wouldn't fit your simple mindset otherwise
 
LWAR said:
We took a 1-0 lead to Germany a couple of years ago and got knocked out, that year I was confident we would progress. Instead of playing them up maybe I have just learnt that you can't underestimate any team at this stage of the competition. I also doubt many other top teams would have the same attitude that you possess, just ask Real Madrid fans if they think Bayer are a walk over.
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Spot on.
 
Davo said:
Yeah nothing to do with Bayer, all down to Real

Wouldn't fit your simple mindset otherwise
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Real were shit that night everyone has to agree about that.
 
As for the Madrid - Leverkusen game, it is common knowledge that Madrid was a circus until this new coach arrived who has finally got the star players to be more disciplined. That said, in January they still looked unimpressive, haven't seen any of their games since. So they were weak from the start of the season until January and didn't play well against really any opposition. The players have said so themselfs, they are on their third coach this season. The 3-0 win does not say much, it was however a good result for Leverkusen but hardly that impressive considering the state of Real Madrid during the fall.
 
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