[kouroux]

His hands were literally in position; "this is my ball. I will grab this ball".

You cannot fight for a position with your arms close to your body

 

[United492]

Some so-called fans on here are an embarrassment

 

[Orton]

Might be a blessing in disguise; winning the Europa, while highly unlikely, is our best chance of qualifying for CL next season.

We ain’t going to be in the Europa if we lose tonight.

 

[Josep Dowling]

I mean, the red wasn’t a red and the penalty wasn’t a penalty.

Wtf you expect them to do against shocking officiating?

Don’t keep giving them chance after chance in our box? Some of the refs decisions have been appalling this season but we don’t help ourselves. That was the second time Maguire handballed it in the box, it’s a constant with him. Maybe move his arm out of the way.

 

[mark_a]

Is there a list of all the decisions which have gone against us this season?

Think it would make for very interesting reading

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/sto...-decisions-affect-premier-league-club-2023-24

 

[Dominos]

The handball rules applied in the CL really are a fecking joke.

The Eriksen handball vs Bayern was completely unjust too. This one might be even more ridiculous, you literally need to chop your arms off to defend in the CL.

 

[Unam333]

VAR decisions are ETH’s fault people! I think he’s also to blame for AIDS and WW2

ETH is also to blame for the rainy weather today!

 

[devilish]

I understand why Rashford was sent off,
But I don't understand those who say "you can't do that, it's a clear red".

Have you guys ever shielded a football in your life, with your mates at the park?

This is the only way of doing it. you look solely at the ball, and, low and behold- you have to land your feet somewhere on the field.

If you start looking down at the pitch to see where your feet are landing with every step you take, you won't shield the ball anymore.

I'm really really annoyed by the red card,
but it's obvious that it will be given, with how they present it to the ref.
You can't really complain about it with how the law is written. it's just annoying as feck.

He's a professional player not a pub team player. He should know better

 

[Buster15]

Ten Hag needs to do a Fergi and make it all about us against the world.

But anyway. The officials are totally ruining the game.

 

[Dec9003]

So you're saying that one can't shield the ball without nearly maiming the opponents foot? Ok

I’m saying you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about and have likely never played, or perhaps seen a football before. One has to plant ones foot somewhere, and when one is looking at the ball to shield it, there is a chance one might catch someone when planting ones foot.

 

[ErikElevenHag]

Every other player on the pitch has managed to not forcefully plant their studs on someone's shin, maybe ask the other 21 players how they've managed to do it.

Jesus christ. Its not even worth a retort

 

[macheda14]

Every other player on the pitch has managed to not forcefully plant their studs on someone's shin, maybe ask the other 21 players how they've managed to do it.

It’s very unlucky, come on. He’s planting his foot to shield the ball and as he’s making that movement the other player puts his foot there.

It’s an arguable red, but just unlucky.

The pen is also unlucky, but I can see why.

Neither are players imploding or losing their head, both are just shit luck in quick succession.

 

[UnitedSofa]

His hands were literally in position; "this is my ball. I will grab this ball".

Where should he put his hands. Tell me. Where he’s running, where can he put his hands.

 

[Amsterdam Devil]

Allegedly this was the reason for the red and not the ankle breaker

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What?

 

[Just Hope]

Just .

Don't have the energy to even get mad, please let this season be over.

 

[evil_geko]

It was a red, if it was the other way round we'd be crying for a red.

No I wouldn't, joke of a decision.

 

[Mercurial]

So, CL is over.

Europa League FFS

Think there are no more drop Downs

 

[Redplane]

ETH is also to blame for the rainy weather today!

So ....every day in England? Motherfecker is El Diablo in the flesh.

 

[Slevs]

He's literally planting his foot to defend the ball, ridiculous.
Also what's Maguire supposed to do if the ball is kicked 1 cm from him?
I fecking hate football

 

[mitchmouse]

I hope Erik doesn't take Rasmus or garnacho off

 

[Bobski]

Definite red, could easily have caused serious injury.

 

[Zed is not dead]

I honestly don’t remember a run of games where you have so many controversial decisions against us.

Every single game I’m waiting to see how the refs will feck us over and don’t even think well be allowed to win a game.

I can only imagine how frustrated and hopeless must be. When you’re shite, you rightfully lose, when you’re good, refs find ways to make you lose

 

[sparx99]

Not give away a 2-goal lead in 15 minutes. That's what i'm expecting them to do. The red was a red card, even if its harsh and the penalty was a penalty. There were two fecking handballs in the box within seconds.

There can ten handbells in 10s it doesn't mean any of them should be a penalty if they are all point blank. There isn't some volume of handballs equals penalty rule.

 

[Laurencio]

Allegedly this was the reason for the red and not the ankle breaker

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Eh what? Surely not?

 

[Todd]

We ain’t going to be in the Europa if we lose tonight.

Ehh, we could get something in Turkey and by the time we play Bayern they'll have nothing to play for and might rest their key players so we could scrap a point. Gala should lose both of their remaining matches. So we still have a shot at third.

 

[mitchmouse]

scholesy and hargreaves pointing out that savage is a cnut over red car but think it was a pen: crazy he was two inches away

 

[Rustyspider13]

We're cursed this season-that's the only explanation. Every time a decision needs to be made against United, the most uncharitable interpretation of the law is used. I don't even know what is handball anymore. So players should now just try to hit the ball at their opponents' hand regardless of the distance or circumstance.

I don't think the team is mentally strong enough to handle another 45 mins with 10 men. Only hope is a counter pays off. But man, what shit luck we've had this season. It's so tiring.

 

[abailey123]

For 40 minutes we looked absolutely immense. Good shape, movement, 2 great goals. Now the games gone due to two dodgy decisions.

 

[Orton]

What’s worse is the ref watched the play and didn’t even call a foul. VAR needs to go away.

 

[Lay]

I hope ETH comes out and has a go about VAR. We seemingly tend to just get on with it

 

[Hester_manc]

Preben Elkjær and Michael Laudrup both saying on danish TV that is was not a red card at all.

 

[NicolaSacco]

There is zero point the ref even looking at the incident. If his superiors have asked him to take a look then he’s never going to go against it even if he doesn’t think it’s a red in his heart of hearts

I can remember an example of the ref being directed to the screen and then sticking to his original decision. But the fact that I can still remember it and it was at the World Cup 11 months ago probably tells its own story.

 

[Abraxas]

We played a fine half, score 2 goals - but the ref has completely changed the game.

For once this one isn't really on the players or manager so I wouldn't go overboard about them.

Two proper stinkers and they're not just not being given a pen or a free kick that keeps the game in balance, they are a player taking an early shower and a very probable goal for the opposition. Terrible, terrible reffing.

 

[santeria13]

ETH is also to blame for the rainy weather today!

There's been some really bad decisions against us this season, but we've also had a few go our way. We can't blame refs for every single bad result. This specific game is not on ETH or the players though.

 

[Ole'sgunnarwin]

Stop blaming refs. How about being 2 nil up with 10 and keeping it tight? Usual lose the heads, turn to rubbish. Slight bit of adversity and they all fall apart. Never ever seen a team fall apart after reds like ours.

 

[mark_a]

Utter garbage - if that's a red then god knows what Bruno Guimarães should have got for lamping the Arsenal guy the other week! The ball wasn't even there for that "challenge"!
Never a red that, a yellow at most. Remember Carroll's 4x leg breakers when we played Reading - he only got yellows for 2 of them, but not before he'd put Erikson out for the rest of the season.

 

[Roboc7]

Our team's football iq is shocking. We struggle even on the basics and the veterans are the ones letting the team down

It’s painful to watch, shocking decision making and just completely unable to cope with any tempo or pressure. We’ve been on the wrong end of type of decisions there seems to be no consistency for but we shoot ourselves in the foot as well.

 

[RomfordRed75]

Best performance of the season until the red. Totally screwed over by officials again.

 

[Dec9003]

Shock horror as two high level ex professionals don’t think it was a red.

 

[doomy20]

So much whiners on here, it’s red in 10 out of 10 cases. Pen is „soft“ but also ok.

Problem is the collapsing, no need to collapse after a red card against Kopenhagen