He was around when we beat them 4:0...I think it's evident that Messi's carrying Barca for years by now. The one time he wasn't around, Bayern ripped them to shreds. The next time, when he was fit, it looked quite differently.
He was still injured, in fairness. Should never have been playing.He was around when we beat them 4:0...
He'd have to be seriously strong to carry 10 players.
All of these are frankly awful shouts. You want the 'name the best player in a given team' thread.Owen - Liverpool, winning the famous Treble.
Effenberg - Bayern.
Totti - Roma
Zidane - France
Wat?In recent years Suarez probably has to top the list. David Villa is a good shout for Spain in the World Cup as well.
Logically they would be. France wouldn't reach that Final without Zidane. And Liverpool undeservedly won FA Cup Final against Arsenal, thanks to who?All of these are frankly awful shouts. You want the 'name the best player in a given team' thread.
Without him there is no way they would have won it. They lacked cutting edge and were very unimpressive throughout that whole tournament.Wat?
Most of the players in that team weren't around when they played last season.I think it's evident that Messi's carrying Barca for years by now. The one time he wasn't around, Bayern ripped them to shreds. The next time, when he was fit, it looked quite differently.
They were easily the best team in that tournament. Iniesta was unreal. Pique, Xavi, Puyol, Alonso all brilliant. Maybe they would have missed out without Villa but it's hardly a case of carrying the team.Without him there is no way they would have won it. They lacked cutting edge and were very unimpressive throughout that whole tournament.
That may be true, but there is a long streak of Barcelona success and Messi is the biggest constant. I'm just throwing another name out there, as I don't think one player can truly carry a team. There are a lot of unsung heroes in football teams that enable a personality like Messi to shine.Most of the players in that team weren't around when they played last season.
Was just about to mention this one. There was one season where it seemed that he scored every one of Barcelona's goals. Then they needed a win to secure CL qualification against Valencia and he scored a hat-trick to win 3-2, including the famous last-second bicycle kick winner. That moment must have been worth many millions of dollars to Barcelona - literally.In the past, I do remember Rivaldo somewhat carrying van Gaal's Barcelona when they were together. Rivaldo was an absolute monster back in the day as well.
Say what?I don't think Ronaldo carried us.... He had an in form, prime Rooney and tevez to work with plus we had one of our best defences led by Rio and vidic..... Our midfield wasnt bad either. We were buying young stars like ando and Nani for fun.... Then the glazers acquired mufc and suddenly we stopped buying at the rate we used to.
Well thats true, he probably carried the attack though. Won them countless close games were it not for him who knows how far they would have gone.They were easily the best team in that tournament. Iniesta was unreal. Pique, Xavi, Puyol, Alonso all brilliant. Maybe they would have missed out without Villa but it's hardly a case of carrying the team.
Yup, that was after van Gaal got fired and Lorenzo Serra Ferrer had to use van Gaal's team with his own approach at that time. He was an absolute monster at that time, doing very well and pretty much carrying Barcelona through that transitional season.Was just about to mention this one. There was one season where it seemed that he scored every one of Barcelona's goals. Then they needed a win to secure CL qualification against Valencia and he scored a hat-trick to win 3-2, including the famous last-second bicycle kick winner. That moment must have been worth many millions of dollars to Barcelona - literally.
He was always underrated. Not much of a highlight reel. During his best times at Porto I was absolutely convinced he could be a starter anywhere but Barça (at that time). He would hardly be mentioned on the outside though. I was also adamant he was the best and most valuable of the duo we sold to Monaco. I have very rarely seen him since, but am not surprised by what you say.And Moutinho has been brilliant for them. I really don't get why he never moved to a big club. He looks a level above all his teammates at Monaco everytime I watch them play.
I'd instantly have him at Bayern now and I'm sure he'd start a lot of games.He was always underrated. Not much of a highlight reel. During his best times at Porto I was absolutely convinced he could be a starter anywhere but Barça (at that time). He would hardly be mentioned on the outside though. I was also adamant he was the best and most valuable of the duo we sold to Monaco. I have very rarely seen him since, but am not surprised by what you say.
His consistency is outrageous, and was a big game player as well. He's also extremely professional, and never seemed to push much for a move (except for leaving Sporting, but he had been there for 5 or 6 years and the team was stale), which probably explains you not hearing much of him in transfer windows. He's happy to comply with his contracts.