So last year the excuse was you couldn't buy any players and now it's you bought too many players?
I agree though, too early to write anyone off other than Sheffield Utd
Frank Lampard | Former Chelsea manager
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I agree though, too early to write anyone off other than Sheffield Utd
We'll see, Roman isn't known for his patience.
It's difficult to really tell the mood of the fans with no crowds. My family & friends certainly don't want him sacked but we know he's not prime Fergie.
Of course there are lemons on Twitter who want Frank gone but they've been there since day 1, because he didn't pick the player they have as their profile pic. It was "@pulisic4lyfe" who wanted him gone at the start, then it was "@CHOisgod" and now it's "@Havertzisdogshit".
I'm not trying to excuse anything, just explain it.
Na. Not when they have such average no 9s with Werner and Havertz around them
I cant see whats impressive about it. Theyve bought names and thats it
I'll take a ￡100 charity wager that Chelsea will not finish top four if he does stay until the end of the season. No lack of effort from the Chelsea players tonight, just a lack of real talent.
Chelsea doesn’t have any genuine top 10 players in the league.
They have bought a lot of players but mostly at the level of good squad additions.
They have bought a lot of players but mostly at the level of good squad additions.
Fair enough. Because how I see it, you guys have tricky next 6 odd games, where it is likely you might come out with a fair few losses and draws as well, if this form continues. Considering, you people might already be 8th this GW (with City below you on GD and having played 2 less games), I really wouldn't be shocked if Roman sacks him in Feb like he did to Scolari, especially if you are maybe 6-8 points adrift of top 4 and 7th-8th in the table.
It’s truly laughable to think back to about 3 weeks ago when Spurs and Chelsea were being lauded as title challengers. Several Chelsea and opposition fans were on this forum predicting title wins or top 4 scenarios that didn’t contain United... What a difference 3 weeks make!
Let’s not forget, United and Chelsea finished on equal points last season. Chelsea then went on to spend £200/250m in the transfer market with much of the media backing them for a title charge. They now sit in 6th, having not beaten a team in the top half of the league and having played the most games of any of the top 10 teams. United can go 7 points above them if we win our 2 games in hand.
Chelsea have a difficult Champions league draw on the horizon also. Make no mistake, if they don’t improve their league position and turn this around, Lampard will deservedly lose his job.
Let’s not forget, United and Chelsea finished on equal points last season. Chelsea then went on to spend £200/250m in the transfer market with much of the media backing them for a title charge. They now sit in 6th, having not beaten a team in the top half of the league and having played the most games of any of the top 10 teams. United can go 7 points above them if we win our 2 games in hand.
Chelsea have a difficult Champions league draw on the horizon also. Make no mistake, if they don’t improve their league position and turn this around, Lampard will deservedly lose his job.
Roman and his minions should start evaluating options to succeed Lampard at the end of the season.
They likely lined up their options the moment they appointed him.
Chelsea bought well but..... The problem is that they bought too many players without PL experience Werner, Ziyech, Havertz, Thiago Silva.... Then on top of that they've a few young players who are not ready to be consistent always like Mount and Abraham.
As their squad develops, I think they'll eventually be awesome, but they'd remind you of us a couple 9f years ago when Fred and Lindelof looked like they were gonna be flops, and Rashford, McTominay etc weren't quite ready to perform consistently week in week out. McTominay and Greenwood are still adjusting to try and find consistency.
As their squad develops, I think they'll eventually be awesome, but they'd remind you of us a couple 9f years ago when Fred and Lindelof looked like they were gonna be flops, and Rashford, McTominay etc weren't quite ready to perform consistently week in week out. McTominay and Greenwood are still adjusting to try and find consistency.
League position at the moment is a wild one. A win in our next game and we could be second. A loss and we could be 9th. Either way it''ll be too close to start talking about sackings or titles.
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Who did Chelsea draw in the CL ?
Atletico
A nice and easy reward for winning the group!
Ha, they'll be eaten alive.
I think the moral of that story is no one outside of Liverpool and City are good enough to win this league.
Not exactly the group of death was it
Touche!
All we could do was win it, which we did. I'm not bragging.
Maybe you would have preferred a group with two top 10 teams in Europe instead in PSG and RB
United are.
Look at this guy here, bragging.
I never quite understand posts like this. Unless you are saying duffer himself was the person using a lack of players last year as an excuse (in which case, I apologise!), then all you are really doing is pointing out that one person said something last year and an unconnected person said something different this year. The thing about hypocrisy is that it usually has to be the same person who has held both views.
That’s exactly the response he wanted.
Always makes me chuckle when people/the media group City in with Liverpool, like they are something special.
another who got the job because he was a club legend and not his CV/capabilities. People don't need to earn top job nowadays.
Doesn’t seem to be going away does it? Despite city finishing hopelessly off the pace last season and doing absolutely nothing so far this season. Bizarre
Because they are the only team that have the capacity to go on a run and potentially challenge with them over 38 games. They probably won't but they're the only one's that have a hope.
Chelsea and United are too streaky while Tottenham's football isn't sustainable.
Has he been sacked yet? Absolute crisis over there, spending close to half a billion and looking as toothless as a mid table side. Who's going to hit the panic button first??
Surely he should get the rest of the season come what may?
I'm a little confused with Chelsea though as if this was a long term project their signings in the summer didn't reflect a masterplan in my opinion. If it's not a long term project then not sure what Roman's incentive will be to stick with Lampard (other than sentiment).
I'm just not sure what the club is going for at the moment. A new approach of youth and building a young team and new style or is it the same as it's always been, throw money at it (and managers) until something sticks. I guess only Roman knows and that will decide Frank's future.
I'm a little confused with Chelsea though as if this was a long term project their signings in the summer didn't reflect a masterplan in my opinion. If it's not a long term project then not sure what Roman's incentive will be to stick with Lampard (other than sentiment).
I'm just not sure what the club is going for at the moment. A new approach of youth and building a young team and new style or is it the same as it's always been, throw money at it (and managers) until something sticks. I guess only Roman knows and that will decide Frank's future.
The argument for Lampard was that he 'earned' the job by taking Derby to a play off final, so therefore destined for greatness.
It should be a long term project, they're a young team and an inexperienced manager. However, when you spend what they spent in the summer, it stopped becoming a long term project at that point.
Lampard has now started digging his players out and taking the Jose school of approach, stating the players need to explain themselves for recent performances. Lose the dressing room and he's gone.
They really arent that young
I dont think anyone should be calling for his head, I like to think that managers should be given a chance to establish themselves which I dont think he's had yet.
But if you're willing to condemn Ole and defend Lampard, or vice versa, then you don't have a leg to stand on.
But if you're willing to condemn Ole and defend Lampard, or vice versa, then you don't have a leg to stand on.
United have shown the capacity to put wins together, as we have done consistently in 2020. Stop trying to deflect from the fact that Chelsea are currently massively underwhelming.
That's true actually. Another reason he'll get sacked this season. The main issue is the German league isn't as good as people thought it was. We all got tricked into thinking it was a top league because we had to watch it for a month because there was feck all else on.
Would you like a bet on whether or not he gets sacked this season? £10?
You seem very sure, easy money for you if you're not talking shit!
I don't think he should be sacked but I think Chelsea will sack him because in their eyes, they've spent this money on a team and want an immediate return. Its pretty much the model they subscribe to.