Totally agree. He had his chance and said no, now move on.You'd think we were Spurs or some other nothing tin pot club going by the embarrassing comments in here. "oh please Frenkie join us look how much better we are now". Sickening. We should be looking at players who find playing at Manchester United a privilege, we are one of the biggest clubs in the world ffs, we need to start acting like it in the market. You think Madrid/Barca/Bayern go out and beg players who have no interest in playing for them?
Way worse than both
This ran all summer and was obvious the player had no intention of leaving from day 1 yet in day 100+ we were still in for him
I gave zero fecks about Vidal but yeah the Sneijder summer was shit as well and so was Thiago before he joined Bayern
This post sums up the situation perfectly but the annoying part is his midfield profile is very unique so feel tornFDJ is a hell of a player, Im just not comfortable signing someone who clearly didnt want to play for us. Those days have to be gone. If his Missus has a big say in his career then you also dont want that hanging over you again after the first damp cold Manchester winter she suffers.
The economic situation is very different, the FFP in Spain has been changed a month ago and has hardened quite a bit in some aspects. But economically Barcelona has improved a lot.but @Niemans says their financial situation isn’t the same?
I’m sure I remember all those levers being gambled on going deep deep in Europe?
Your economic situation is whatever Tebas says it is. If you have to sell, you have to sellThe economic situation is very different, the FFP in Spain has been changed a month ago and has hardened quite a bit in some aspects. But economically Barcelona has improved a lot.
And it remains to be seen that Barcelona does not sign anyone.
One thing is not being able to sign and another thing is having to sell.Your economic situation is whatever Tebas says it is. If you have to sell, you have to sell
He literally says your budget for the summer is -200m so you need to make up 200m now without leversOne thing is not being able to sign and another thing is having to sell.
If a very good offer comes for Barcelona and FDJ wants to go to United there will be no problem. We'll see what happens.
FDJ and Weghorst?Option A, all day every day.
Didnt’t you see him against us?Watching the Copa del Rey now, looks pretty decent.
I’d take that but I do think the money would be better spent on a long term striker. If we keep Sabitzer and extend Fred we have options in the middle now - especially when Eriksen and Donny are fit again. We’ve needed a striker more or less since RVP left - we’ve had so many short term options (I’m deliberately ignoring Lukaku because he was trash) and Martial needs to be the option, not the starter - if he even stays.FDJ and Weghorst?
Well, hopefully there'll be better options in the bargain market than our Wout.FDJ and Weghorst?
£20m is very conservative anyway since we should trim down the squad a fair bit. McTominay, VdB, Pellistri, Tuanzebe, one of Maguire/Lindelof, Martial (possibly, wage and injury could be a roadblock). That’s easily 60-70m+ in fees, not including the wages that’s freed up. Even if FdJ is £80m+ whatever deferred wages Barca still owed him, we should still at least have 60m+ to play with for a striker, that should get you the likes of Toney, Mitrovic, Vlahovic, Muani etc, + Marcus Thuram on a free. That’s more than serviceable.Well, hopefully there'll be better options in the bargain market than our Wout.
Somebody plays FM.
£20m is very conservative anyway since we should trim down the squad a fair bit. McTominay, VdB, Pellistri, Tuanzebe, one of Maguire/Lindelof, Martial (possibly, wage and injury could be a roadblock). That’s easily 60-70m+ in fees, not including the wages that’s freed up. Even if FdJ is £80m+ whatever deferred wages Barca still owed him, we should still at least have 60m+ to play with for a striker, that should get you the likes of Toney, Mitrovic, Vlahovic, Muani etc, + Marcus Thuram on a free. That’s more than serviceable.
Not sure what’s exactly unrealistic about that? You think even with the United tax, we can’t find any of the striker listed that would go for around that money? We have been rather shit at buying not that shit, I hope.Somebody plays FM
We are rarely as good at selling players as you envision in that post though.Not sure what’s exactly unrealistic about that? You think even with the United tax, we can’t find any of the striker listed that would go for around that money? We have been rather shit at buying not that shit, I hope.
A summer net spend of ~ 80m is pretty normal for United, even if the Glazers remain in charge.
Yeah luckily he was having an off day.Didnt’t you see him against us?
That’s 7 players listed with a few internationals in there.We are rarely as good at selling players as you envision in that post though.
don’t sell Pellistri. There’s something about him.That’s 7 players listed with a few internationals in there.
Let’s be very conservative and say
McTominay - 15m
VdB - 10m
Pellistri - 10m
Tuanzebe -5m
Maguire - 20m
That’s 60m for you. I reckon we can get a few millions more for Maguire and McTominay in reality, depending on buyers.
We have Antony, Sancho as our main right wingers, Amad plays there and he’s having a great loan at Sunderland. Bruno can also play there. EtH will probably want to integrate Amad into the squad next season, and even if not, Pellistri can’t buy a game at the moment and wr are playing a game every 3 days.don’t sell Pellistri. There’s something about him.
I'd probably keep Pellistri this summer - I would still like to see more of him.That’s 7 players listed with a few internationals in there.
Let’s be very conservative and say
McTominay - 15m
VdB - 10m
Pellistri - 10m
Tuanzebe -5m
Maguire - 20m
That’s 60m for you. I reckon we can get a few millions more for Maguire and McTominay in reality, depending on buyers.
He's not going to get a look in unless there's injuries. One saving grace could be him playing through the middle and be Bruno's understudy, assuming vdB is done at United once he's recovered from his knee injury. But Pellestri will look for more playing time unless he wants to stay and develop himself without guaranteed playing time.don’t sell Pellistri. There’s something about him.
Its pretty much well-documented that this isn't what happened. If your job owed you 3 years' worth of wages and then tried to fire you would you willingly leave?Totally agree. He had his chance and said no, now move on.
Yes, as long as you can pay his wages and any money owed, I think he will stay.Fair play to Frenkie, board tried to force him to leave, treated him like shit, Xavi benched him yet he stayed and fought for his place and is now a fan favourite and clearly one of 6 untouchable players; Pedri, Balde, Frenkie, MaTS, Araujo and Gavi.
If we get the Busquets replacement correct, he's going to form an incredible midfield with Pedri for the future. I see him staying and we'll probably move on Ferran, Raphinha and unfortunately Kessie (been good recently)
But would leaving Barca mean forfeiting his pay? Couldn't he just pursue that legally while not being a Barca player? I don't know how this works, genuinely asking.Its pretty much well-documented that this isn't what happened. If your job owed you 3 years' worth of wages and then tried to fire you would you willingly leave?
He signed a new contract during the pandemic to help Barca with their financial situation. Basically they pay him a pittance for a couple of years before increasing it massively in the next few years, to match his original 400k/w contract.But would leaving Barca mean forfeiting his pay? Couldn't he just pursue that legally while not being a Barca player? I don't know how this works, genuinely asking.
Okay, makes sense, cheers.He signed a new contract during the pandemic to help Barca with their financial situation. Basically they pay him a pittance for a couple of years before increasing it massively in the next few years, to match his original 400k/w contract.
So if he transfer away, they are under no obligation to pay him the difference. No one put a gun to his head to sign that contract, after all.
He was brilliant end of last season also and they still tried to get rid off him. Unfortunately, he loves Barcelona so its hard to see him leave.Tweet
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This summer it'll be more of a question of do Barca even want to sell anymore?
He's looked a nailed on starter as of late and his performances have him looking undroppable