What are you waffling on about?
We're not winning a title and we're not losing our first 5 games.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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We're not winning a title and we're not losing our first 5 games.
Add in they will cost
jesus, really? The first five aren’t in any way a replacement and have either been shit for 1-3 years, or average. The next two will cost nearly as much as fdj and probably take to the end of the window, and if McGinn ia the option we might as well stick with our own average midfielders and hop eth works miracles.
Well then, let me ask u the same question.
Suppose we aren't able to sign FDJ, realistically, who do we sign?
Well those are the options. Tielemans and Ruiz are above average
There's always one that bores on beyond the first game.
This year it seems to be all of them!
I think calling Ruiz and Tielemans average is going a bit far. They're good players.
I don't think Tielemans is a very good candidate for this type of role, but Ruiz could be a sensible choice. He's no De Jong but he'd probably be my backup option if this falls flat.
Yeah Ruiz is the next best and probably the only other player that can play the 'De Jong role' but I don't think he's done it before. Which is why we have to get De Jong before any other signing. Missing out on him could change our setup since no other player have proven to play like him
They're clearly wumming and have been for days if not weeks.
Exactly. Quite a lot of people don’t seem to understand this.
We should offer them martial and rashford for de jong.
That would really help them balance the books.
That would really help them balance the books.
He used to be a pornstar, known as John Long Dong De Jong
Bayern did a first bid for Mané, which Liverpool rejected. Then the management flew to Liverpool and finalized the deal.
Bayern doesn't want to sell, at least not below 50 million Euro. Barcelona submit a 32 million offer with 5 million Euro variables. Bayern reject. 2 weeks later Barcelona come up with a second bid of 35 million with 5 million Euro variables. That's a joke!
Encouraging the player to start a public war against Bayern to force the move. That's a (bad) joke!
This definitely won't help you guys getting the player. Actually quite the opposite.
I have the impression Barcelona wants Lewandowski but still can't close the deal. Thus, they are trying to keep the saga going with silly bids they know Bayern will reject.
I'm pretty sure Bayern won't sell at any price if they don't have a suitable replacement. If it drags on a few more weeks, this transfer will be dead in the water.
Good job. Gotta teach ‘em disappointment early in life.
So apparently this saga could drag on till the end of the transfer window according to Ornstein. We also can't complete any other deals until FDJ has been signed apparently.
5 deadline day transfers ?
5 deadline day transfers ?
Let's be honest here, 50m is an insane amount for a 33 y/o player, especially on a one year contract. I also think it's crazy that Barcelona are offering 35m for a 33 y/o with their financial situation. Although I understand Bayern prefer to keep him, I think they are quite unreasonable here. Besides the crazy fee, Bayern always acts like a big club with elite standards, but yet Bayern never have a problem bullying their German competitors of their best players and now they don't have the class to show a player with very big achievements for the club the respect to let him go to another country at this age for a reasonable fee.
I just don't think it's very classy from Bayern. They should be bigger than this. It's not like Barca is just offering 10m. For a 33 y/o player, especially with only one year left on the contract 30-35m is a very reasonable offer and Bayern would show class to respect Lewandowski's wishes and not go for the absolute maximum fee. It's not like Bayern is selling a player that would have an 8-10 year future at the club, then I would understand Bayern to be very reluctant / putting a crazy price tag. When a player has done this much for the club and has a wish to play in another country in his last years it's not very classy to do everything in your power to block the move. I don't understand it.
What happens to Barca if united walks away from the deal?
Spanish window open July 1?
They don't sign Lewa/Bernardo and keep De Jong.
Cantona wanted to leave in 95 and had to be persuaded to stay. Ronaldo wanted to leave in 06 and 08 and had to be persuaded to stay. There’s nothing out of the ordinary in using persuasion to sign or keep players. What’s the alternative? United aren’t in a position to just say take it or leave it. Do you think Real Madrid weren’t doing all they could to persuade Mbappe and PSG likewise? The attitude of people in here would be disastrous and not the way any club operates.
I don't think it is wise for Barcelona to pay 50m for a 33 y/o player given their situation right now. They may as well spend that money on Dembele replacement if he leaves and sign Lewandowski next summer.
That's what the aggregator tweet suggested but that's not what was actually said... Surprise surprise
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@UnitedSofa @golden_blunder. time to be patient till the end of the window ? New transfer team , new structure new strategy. You guys were very sure what the club was doing and called everyone spoilt, impatient, drama queens etc whoever didn’t agree.
It is not so hard to put in a Previous bid + 1 Euro bid.
Key word being "could", not "would", as Withnail just highlighted.
Well it’s a few more weeks IF true. So what? Be patient
Lewandowski is currently the best striker in the world. He is the current world player of they year and second in the balloon d'Or competition. He is 33 but still top fit and never injured. And Bayern had never any intention to sell. I'm sure Lewandowski can still play another 2 to 3 years ago the highest level, if not longer.
So why would they let a player, who is irreplaceable go on the cheap?
Further Barcelona are playing at time. They aren't allowed to sign Lewandowski under the current circumstances. Thus, Bayern can't even sell him now and look for a replacement. No idea when Barcelona actually gets the green light to sign and register players.
They are linked to do many players, Christensen, Alonso, Azpilicueta, Raphina, Kressi, Silva and Lewandowski, probably even more. At the same time they need to reduce their payroll. No idea how they will achieve it. Total mess of a club.
Hardly surprising this is taking forever, basically the 2 clubs with the worst negotiating teams in the market trying to make a deal. 
At this moment in time we are fighting for 7th. Spurs & Arsenal getting stronger. West Ham and Newcastle in the mix too. None of this we finished 2nd two years ago crap. We are light years away and it needs to be fixed
De Jong isn't even back in training for like 2/3 more weeks anyway.
The club will obviously be patient to get the best deal. The only thing that will be annoying is if it delays other deals also.
We should be working on them all at once.
So what ? So be patient all the way from the beginning till the deadline day even if your club doesn’t make a signing ? Don’t say anything, don’t criticise anything even if it’s justified. Right just be patient. What is this ?
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Don't worry, apparently he's sarcastic 99% of the time on here......or so he told me the other day
You don’t understand. If we sign him now he then has two weeks in Vegas as a United player learning his role (lol), but if we sign him in ten days we’ll have wasted… ten days of him spending time in Vegas.
Agreed. I don’t have any issue with de Jong signing. I’m sure that would happen. It’s the others that are on hold because of it I have an issue with. It’s idiotic. Now Antony’s price is 70m because Ajax already sold so many of their players and don’t need the money. If only we could have completed some of our signings before de Jong.
Barça is allowed to sign anyone they want. Barça CAN pay. It is REGISTERING (in LaLiga, not Champions League btw) the "problem". It won't be an issue in a few weeks.
It has nothing to do with Bayern if they can register him tomorrow or not, or if Barça is linked to 100 players or 0.
I prefer tro try Lewa for free in a year, even if he is one year older.
And current Barça staff has done a GREAT job since they arrived one year ago. We can stop that bulls*** of "mess of a club" for any decision the current executives make.
So barcelona can sign anyone they want, but can't register them? meaning that they can't sign anyone they want because they
can't be registered?
Barcelona can ask whatever they want for him. He’s their player and contracted. Frenkie is worth 75mil in today’s market, he really is. He is also essential to how we want to play aswelll and Barcelona know that. They are not the only ones with reasons for being desperate for this to go through. If we don’t get him, we don’t get anyone else as good as him. We get second best.
Barca know it.
It took weeks since Barça signed any player last year until they were registered. They were signed anyway. They were registered anyway.
So yeah, Barça can sign anyone. Barça can pay. Barça needs to make some extra work for registration. It is a LaLiga FFP limitation issue (for now). Those limitations will go away in a few weeks.
Barça DOES NOT NEED to sell. The only reason FDJ is in the market is because management thinks he is the only player that won't be missed sooo much (wrong position to me, but he is playing in the same position as Pedri/Gavi) and we still can get a lot of money. There is no point in selling FDJ for a cheap price, because it kills the only purpose of selling, which is really making a good deal. It is not like Barça doesn't want him or doesn't want to keep him. Only that a good deal wouldn't be catastrophic from a sporting perspective and it would help with the economy.
In a different situation Barça would not accept even 100M and FDJ would simply not be in the market.
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