The pain come Monday morning will be borealis beautifulNo, I'm not the one crying about a change by the person who made the source material in the first place
I actually hope you continue watching and there are more changes which hurt your soul
Other Game spoilers thread for The Last of Us TV Show - Enter at your own risk (Contains spoilers for Last of Us Parts 1 & 2)
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Same thing applies. ITs opinions. Theres no right or wrong opinion. ITs ok to think she's great, and it's ok to think shes shit. "Theres no pleasing some people" implies that you disagree and that any other opinion is just moaning for the sake of moaning. Weather is me, someone else or you doesn't matter. We are taking part in the conversation. And people are gonna think that they are gonna think. Only thing I would ask is that people express their opinions in full thoughts and not an endless series of "gotcha" moments.
Don't understand your post.
Fill in the blanks for me because it's been a while and cba to watch 2 hours of footage.
Step 1. Fireflies attack checkpoint.
Step 2. Fireflies decide to leave and escort Ellie.
Step 3. They recruit Joel and Tess and have them escort Ellie to the agreed meeting point.
Step 4. Fedra arrive at the agreed meeting point after Joel and Tess find the Fireflies dead (by zombies right?).
Is there anything I'm missing, you mentioned that some Fireflies were captured, did we see that and was that before Step 2? I vaguely remember that happened near the start.
It doesn't really matter if they are a Terrorist group, if they leave your city then brilliant. They can go and die on the outside instead. There's very little point in risking valuable equipment (humvee as per the video you posted) and men in the hope that you can catch up to them and kill them. Knowing that to do so would mean you would also take casualties yourself and worst case scenario risk losing all the men and vehicles. It's an unnecessary risk with little reward as the cell was leaving the area anyway.
Why? Because Im sick of the bitter fecking comments, the accusations of bigotry and all the other dirty under handed bullshit posted to "win" some shitty argument? Since part 2 came out, thats all this shit is. A constant bitch fest. No in between you agree or you don't and feck you if you don't. Funny how it's always when there's push back against the bullshit that "calm downs" start.
No, just because you're ranting comes across like you're a lunatic (with a smile, I am not being a twat here). And with that said, your point is obviously absolutely valid, but your fury-typing (and this is how it's coming across to me) today and the other night on this topic seems a bit OTT.
1. Fireflies attack checkpoint.
2. Fireflies are tracked and ambushed by Fedra. Marlene escapes.
3. Fedra interrogates captured fireflies, finds out about extraction point. Send force to stamp them out in the area once and for all.
4. Fedra arrive, they kill the fireflies that were there, then patrol the area for any stragglers.
5. Joel, Tess and Ellie turn up.
I didn't say they were, I said they could have been. Again, we don't need to be spoon fed every single detail to understand how a thing happened. The motivation is there and thats enough to explain why it happened.
They aren't dying on the outside though. They keep coming back. So it makes sense to finish them off.
Risk of equipment and man power, to you and me maybe. But if your men had just been killed, if you were sick of the constant threat, maybe you and I might see it differently? Might also just have been that the guy in charge was a dick.
I guess, Im just sick of it, mate. 2 years of people being called all sorts of shit because they didn't like part 2. And it's all the same tactics being used to shut people up on this show as well. I also haven't been sleeping very well for the past 4 days, so Im easily irritated at the moment
. But no, I have no ill will towards anyone. Just sick of all the shit around this game/tv show and how it can't just be a conversation of different ideas and opinions. Theres always someone trying to make it more. So here we are. Its more. Pointless and stupid as it is. Anyway, Im out. Because you're right, I am angry typing. Have a good Evening everybody.Surely it’s also my opinion that there’s no pleasing people? It’s ok for me to think other people’s opinions are utter drivel.
Was watching the Ty & That Guy podcast (by the co-author & the hottest star from The Expanse) and one good point, amongst several, that they brought up is they don’t think they could’ve gotten away with something like this even after The Expanse ‘graduated’ to the Amazon Prime platform.
It made me think even if you think this episode was not exceptional you should celebrate HBO giving artists a platform to take chances. Artists should be allowed to take big swings at something transcendental as opposed to a by-the-numbers checklist/storyboard of idealized goalposts (*cough* Rings of Power).
It made me think even if you think this episode was not exceptional you should celebrate HBO giving artists a platform to take chances. Artists should be allowed to take big swings at something transcendental as opposed to a by-the-numbers checklist/storyboard of idealized goalposts (*cough* Rings of Power).
Great post
I hope I understand.I guess, Im just sick of it, mate. 2 years of people being called all sorts of shit because they didn't like part 2. And it's all the same tactics being used to shut people up on this show as well. I also haven't been sleeping very well for the past 4 days, so Im easily irritated at the moment
At the launch of 2, I watched a lot of the stuff (especially Jim Sterling who kinda nailed it for me) around that time and yeah it's fecking stupid; I think you got picked out (and I think I did in a post too, and I'm sorry for making the same assumption) because a lot of the blowback has been homophobic so it's easy to assume those being less than positive are doing it for that reason. I get that it's eternal-tiring (I have a trans sister, but all the problems that come to her for that are still relentlessly new to me but I feel bad that I feel the need to even include this detail).
In all seriousness: you do realise you've got to be up again on Monday morning at 3am again right?
Well that's your opinion stop throwing it down other people's throats.
Yeah, so reading that, I can see where you're coming from, as a purist I can understand why it would frustrate you given the above does make sense even if some of it is off screen and requires leaps of faith. I would however disagree with the bolded point. It's something that happens in film and tv far too often to simply have a group of enemies teleport to a region to fight the protagonist with a very vague, half arsed explanation. On top of all that, you have to understand that TV shows will dumb down the story where possible to make it easier to understand for the casual joe bloggs. To have an unknown force arrive and starting shooting Joel, Tess and Ellie would be confusing. We'd only caught a few glimpses of Fedra in the show. On top of that the motivations for Fedra being there could be deemed confusing given that Joel murdered one.
I guess from my perspective I much prefer the zombies having an elevated position in the show because they're quickly discarded in the games (for gameplay reasons as much as story choices) for human combat. So having Tess killed by the zombies make sense to me. It also makes it clear that this isn't a zombie show where the zombies are basically useless entities (looking at you TWD), but they're a very real and constant danger.
Besides, Fedra doesn't even show up for the rest of Part 1 right? So it's not like they're a major part of the story and removing that sequence removes part of their motivations in the rest of the story. It's ultimately an irrelevant change and imo a positive one.
I’m just posting it on a forum? I’m not dm’ing you am I.
Sick of you ramming stuff down our throats.
Not even ramming, throwing it apparently. Which implies their mouths are already open ready to receive.
The way some people use "oh it's for the tv crowd" and all that shines a huge light on who they are in relation to this. The man who wrote the games is literally telling us why things are different, and yet there's still an argument about it as if it's been changed to pander rather than changed because an artist is using a different medium.
BTW I still imagine you as a Bill type. The being prepared and slightly paranoid stuff I mean!
The fecking cheek
Or maybe, just maybe, you should look inward a tad? I mean you are usually caught up in these things and end up looking like you think you do all too often. This isn't the first or even second thread you meltdown in, it won't be the last. The problem can't always be everyone else.I guess, Im just sick of it, mate. 2 years of people being called all sorts of shit because they didn't like part 2. And it's all the same tactics being used to shut people up on this show as well. I also haven't been sleeping very well for the past 4 days, so Im easily irritated at the moment
@BEST No7 sorry mate if you did, but did you ever explain what "pandering to the people" means?
Well give me another decade or two of bourbon consumption and I could pull off an Offerman impersonation physically at least, for now I like to think I resemble Amos more.BTW I still imagine you as a Bill type. The being prepared and slightly paranoid stuff I mean!
Can you not just resume your beef with @Ramshock and leave us to it here?
Lamby no, don't open up old wounds ffs
Shove a fork in that wound and spread it open.
And yet, Im the one who took a walk, and here you are to stir shit up again. Theres no meltdown happening here, just the continued insinuation of one any time someone has differing opinion. You won't let it go, and neither will I, but somehow Im the only cnut in the room. What is it you people say, jog on or some shit like that?
Tbf I think most of your posts are fair (and it was unfair in the other thread when someone accused you of not liking two guys in a relationship or whatever it was)
But same time you did have a meltdown on page two of the other thread
There was also someone saying the acting / writing was shitty based on the trailer?
Answer me this. What have I ever asked you or called you to make you so angry?
All I've ever done is engage you and that continues to enrage you. In fact, has anyone on here ever accused you of anything directly? Yet still here we are with you being all ranty and angry and the rest of us wondering why...
It is a simple question. Have they answered it then?
The interaction on the last page was something to behold. It actually had me laughing at how angry he/she/they got
But no, I was trying to find out and got called stupid with the answer being two changes
You're constantly having a meltdown on here, that much can't be denied. I have no idea why, but you really should try and take a step back. Going for a walk clearly didn't work!
I just want more shooty bang bang or whatever it was described as in the next episode.
I'm gonna be pissed if they ignore the sewers part with Henry and Sam.
I'm gonna be pissed if they ignore the sewers part with Henry and Sam.
Honestly, reading some moaning here I just think some people just don't deserve good things.
feck off, I put that glipe on ignore ages ago
Think about the greater good, man!
I'm somewhere in the middle on this. I don't think she's been awful, but don't think she's been fantastic either. I'd say she's been decent enough so far, nothing special. I thought the actress that played Sarah put in a stronger performance than what we've seen from Bella Ramsey so far, but there's still plenty of episodes to go for my opinion on that to change.
This thread and the non-spoiler thread have turned into a bit of a car crash it seems. Are people that are enjoying the show but have criticisms about certain aspects/choices allowed to bring these up without being told they just want a shooty bang bang TV show or an exact adaptation of the game? There's no need to be so defensive just because others have a different opinion than yours. Isn't that what a forum is for anyway? It would be boring if everyone thought the same thing.
Anyway, looking forward to tonight's episode. As good as the standalone episode was, I'm looking forward to seeing more of Joel and Ellie in this episode.
I said from the first few scenes that the Sarah actress should have been Ellie.
But of course, that would have sparked even more "opinions" on the rights and wrongs.
Some of her (Ellie's) lines have been hammy to me, especially the MK2 scene and maybe the hotel lobby check-in scene, but on the whole I think she's been fine/better than fine. Nico was about the same to me in her role as Sarah. In a way, I wanted more of her story, but it already got much more than the game. I'm not dissatisfied at all about the casting choices overall.
Bella Ramsey is brillaint so far. She's got the mannerism down well enough. It's always nearly impossible to copy from the OC. Even the jokes are what Ellie would say. That sandwich joke was hilarious. Plus it's only been 3 episodes. They were barely in the 3rd one. The 4th one is where things will get heavy for Ellie. Can't wait for that....and then David!
And I thought the TV thread was bad