I knew he had fitness issues but what I didn't realise was just now much pace he's lost. I mean FFS he makes Laurent Blanc look like prime Usain bolt
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The fanfare and commotion around bale rejoining Spurs was ridiculous. Now they’ve all seen he’s a shadow of his former self it’s soon gone quiet.
thank god we didn’t take the bait!
thank god we didn’t take the bait!
Its two sides to a coin, you read some posts on here it's like he should be playing for Dag and Red as a subs player. Really he has been average for Spurs, nothing more, nothing less, his output for Spurs per minute played has been very close to Moura looking at his stats. But injuries were always going to be the problem, and why he is worth nowhere near the ludicrous money RM is paying him.
I think most teams would still take a punt on him if his wages were say 100k a week. No one is stupid enough to pay 600k a week, well, except Madrid that is.
Spurs will ship him back to RM at the end of his loan period where he will stay until 2022 Im guessing.
Not going to lie, I would have gone for Bale. Glad that we made the right decision here.
The issue with his fitness was always going to be a big factor in this deal. I was, like most in here, delighted when we didn’t go in for him. That’s not to say he still can’t give Spurs something in the final stretch.
Would have been a dream signing 7 years ago, mind.
Would have been a dream signing 7 years ago, mind.
Is the loss of pace a bit like Giggs where he hardly ever revs up because he knows he'll get injured if he does or is it just completely gone?
I wonder how much his value has fallen by? Hypothetically, if Real paid up his deal and he was a free agent - who would sign him and how much could he get? Going out on loan to a lesser club and not looking good is quite problematic.
What's Real's hit rate when it comes to Prem transfers? They signed McManmanananan and gave him 60K a week which I think was more than anyone was earning in England, and he was pretty shit. Signed injury-wrecked Owen. Signed injury-wrecked Woodgate. Becks definitely made them more money than they paid. Gravesen...! Can't remember how Ruud did for them.
Modric and Ronaldo have been fantastic for them. Bale has been good, but probably never justified his price tag and definitely not his wages.
edit: injury-wrecked Hazard.
What's Real's hit rate when it comes to Prem transfers? They signed McManmanananan and gave him 60K a week which I think was more than anyone was earning in England, and he was pretty shit. Signed injury-wrecked Owen. Signed injury-wrecked Woodgate. Becks definitely made them more money than they paid. Gravesen...! Can't remember how Ruud did for them.
Modric and Ronaldo have been fantastic for them. Bale has been good, but probably never justified his price tag and definitely not his wages.
edit: injury-wrecked Hazard.
Never forget the signing of Julian Faubert too!
They seem to have had a lot of misses in recent years, like Robben and Sneijder who both found their world class form once they'd left Real.
Ah yeah, Faubert!
Pretty amazing that they couldn't get a tune out of Robben. Still annoyed Chelsea signed him from under our noses.
They also signed a past-it Essien, who was probably still OK. But not a great signing.
Mcmanaman was a hit wasnt he? Or at least wasnt a flop.
McManaman was a definite hit. He was great with Redondo in midfield, getting into the team of the year and scoring a great goal in the final as they won the CL in his first season.
Started his second season by being forced out with typical Real politics, but stayed and won back his place in the first team and won La Liga as a starter in a completely different role.
It wasn’t just that he wasn’t shit, he was excellent and overcame a lot of adversity to become a fan favourite. The players loved him too.
He left after four years having won two CL, La Liga and twice been voted the supporters player of the year.
Stevie was an unmitigated success in Madrid, even with politics and their transfer policy working against him.
On an individual level or overall?
McManaman: hit
Owen: miss, but not his fault. He wasn't played enough
Woodgate: hahahah
Becks: hit on an individual level, miss overall. Again not his fault
RVN: hit
Gravesen: panic buy, once tried to murder robinho in training. Hit&Run
Bale: hit overall. Injured too often to be a hit individually
Courtois is a success after a dodgy start. Arbeloa was solid even if unspectacular.
Alonso a huge success.
Ronaldo did okay.
Alonso a huge success.
Ronaldo did okay.
Yeah, he did really well there and they had a lot of respect for him as he learnt the language and adapted well. He scored a CL final goal for them and is widely considered to be one of the most successful English players to have played abroad.
Yeah, I guess I was off by a long way. Thought McManaman had been a flop in relation to his wages. You would know a lot better than I would. What's likely to happen with Bale?
Come on that joke was gold 
what's wrong with you people...
Re: Bale. Nothing. He's coming back and we'll be looking to hopefully find him a new team somewhere like China/UAE/USA. And we probably won't so he'll get to collect his 30 million euros to stay at home. Or play golf, if Spain gets the pandemic under control and return to some measure of normalcy
what's wrong with you people...Re: Bale. Nothing. He's coming back and we'll be looking to hopefully find him a new team somewhere like China/UAE/USA. And we probably won't so he'll get to collect his 30 million euros to stay at home. Or play golf, if Spain gets the pandemic under control and return to some measure of normalcy
his value before the season started was zero.
In terms of wages - no top club would touch him now.
does he have another year at Real after this?
assume he will go back, sit in the bench, then have a swan song in the MLS, where he might look half decent again.
What joke? Whoosh.Come on that joke was gold
Re: Bale. Nothing. He's coming back and we'll be looking to hopefully find him a new team somewhere like China/UAE/USA. And we probably won't so he'll get to collect his 30 million euros to stay at home. Or play golf, if Spain gets the pandemic under control and return to some measure of normalcy
Yeah, I guess that's how it will go (also @ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg). Bit of a shame, not least given the unwarranted excitement at Spurs early season.
I wanted him to be a (relative) success, because clearly he was once a brilliant player. Thought there was a reasonable chance there was some juice left in the tank. Doesn’t look it.
I still don't get it. Yes, they had a bust-up in pre-season and the steroid monster swung at Robinho. What does the hit and run refer to?
It's a play on words about what a car crash that transfer was. Although I'm now second-guessing myself and wondering if that's what he actually meant
You get credit for explaining it whilst second guessing if you got it right, very brave. I'm sorry we slaughtered your joke @giornoIt's a play on words about what a car crash that transfer was. Although I'm now second-guessing myself and wondering if that's what he actually meant
Pace has gone. Very little else available.
Reminds me of Auba, his pace really has dropped off too.
Reminds me of Auba, his pace really has dropped off too.
Auba immediately got worse when he got his big contract though, right?
Robben was great for Madrid. His injuries were considered too much by the management, his prospects in that regard were bad back then.
you got it, plus robinho is a rapist so gravesen gets brownie points for trying to end himIt's a play on words about what a car crash that transfer was. Although I'm now second-guessing myself and wondering if that's what he actually meant
I think the pace is still there. He just doesn’t have the confidence in his muscles to give it that burst. He’s too worried about getting injured. So, it looks as though he’s playing at 50% capacity at the moment.
That too.
Not to be pedantic, but then your pace has gone if you're scared to use it for fear of breaking down.
He was 100% a hit, I can't believe anyone would suggest otherwise. I recall McManaman saying that restaurants in Madrid always try and refuse to let him pay for meals such is their love and respect for him.
Not even a few minutes for him against Fulham was very surprising.
I had a debate with a guy at work who despite being a United fan was excited to see Bale back in the league. He was sure he would tear up the league again and that United missed out big time.
I think Bale still has some magic left but nowhere near the standard required anymore. I’m sure he will be in the MLS next year
I think Bale still has some magic left but nowhere near the standard required anymore. I’m sure he will be in the MLS next year
The amount of criticism Manutd get for paying high wages to players, people seem to forget Spurs are paying 1/2 or more of Bale's wages? thats almost £300k a week to play in the FA Cup?
Can't believe some people here were claiming Bale was doing ok for Spurs. Everyone can see he's a MLS-level at best now.
Spurs had 15 mins to grab a winner last night and he brings on Lamela and Viniscius says enough about Bale really .
His legs are completely gone. He's painfully average without that scintillating pace he had.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...y-extend-Gareth-Bales-loan-second-season.html
The biggest surprise for me is that he's actually played just 161mins in the PL this season.
I knew he warmed the bench in Madrid, but I did think he would have played more than this.
Is it just injuries/form or does Mou have an issue with him?
The biggest surprise for me is that he's actually played just 161mins in the PL this season.
I knew he warmed the bench in Madrid, but I did think he would have played more than this.
Is it just injuries/form or does Mou have an issue with him?
He didn't really develop his game in other areas, almost the opposite, focused so much on being a goalscorer, cutting in and shooting, became very one dimensional.
Stark contrast to someone like Giggs(whatever you think of him as a person) who had such range to his game he could keep adapting.