Gareth Bale | Mourinho: "Game over. Now everyone knows he's going to stay."
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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He's still a fantastic player but what's the point when he's been injured half of the time for the past 2 years? No point really, especially not in a swap deal for arguably the best goal keeper in the world, I think we should look elsewhere. And did we plan to sign him all along or we've gone back to our scatter gun, big name player at all cost style because Griezmann isn't happening?
I've always thought he'd play for United one day. I thought the same about Zlatan. Something about them just fits.
Why does a stretch of injury makes him all of the sudden worthless and injury prone? He's 27 - TWENTY SEVEN! His issues are not even career threatening.
Nothing but a speed bump. Time to buy him low, now. We have Mkhi, Mata and Lingard on the right in case he blows up - yet he won't. He'd be awesome, letting him loose on the wing.
Bale this year, Antoine G. next year...sorted.
He's a signing that excites me more than Griezmann. Only Pogba can top that and we already have him
Bale maybe injured a lot, but he's the first to get himself back on the training field desperate to play again. Can see why Mourinho would be in love with that, considering the shit he's given some of our players this season.
Also, Bale is a star. Big name in the world of football. You make your money back off players like him, so feck the transfer fee. You get what you pay for with him.
Also, Bale is a star. Big name in the world of football. You make your money back off players like him, so feck the transfer fee. You get what you pay for with him.
Has he lost any pace due to all the injuries? I know you can't go by it, but I watched his compilation on youtube for this year and he didn't seem to blow defenders away like he used to.
Not sure about that, he's had several calf injuries recently which might indicate an issue. We simply can't spend 70+ million on a player without him being able to play in 40+ games per season
But if Bale would get injured, we will have Martial and maybe Pereira as back up. Not a bad situation.
How? Very curious, I have no knowledge on bale this season.
no Kroos?
Just go for it and hope that the games he's actually fit for are games where we need someone of his quality to step up.
By rushing him back, they rushed him back trying to get him fit for the CL game last Feb (?) and played him when he wasn't 100% fit v Barca which is why he's been out until now
i don't think we can pry him out of their team. As of right now Bale is disguntled, thus an easy target, and we need a CB of Varane's quality, someone i think would be excited to work for a jose project.
Mainly threatening because he is an incredibly physical player. If you take that away he's fairly average. These injuries compound and effect future likihood of further injuries, limitation of apps and physical decline.
He's coming into his prime but injuries at this stage will leave him struggling to perform as he comes out of his prime. The drop off I would guess would be similar to Rooney.
He's been injured more than that though.
Would be great if he wasn't such a croc. The fee would have to have some element based on appearances or something, or it could prove to be an expensive mistake.
Ask yourself why RM might want to sell him.
Ask yourself why RM might want to sell him.
I don't believe this transfer story.
In the buildup to the Champions League Final the media is always looking for stories that will sell papers both in Madrid and here.
Bale's injury return and Isco's form have made this too easy a story to spin. Plus, United's longstanding interest gives the story an air of plausibility.
But after the final is over there will be real stories to report on.
Madrid are not daft enough to sell Bale, and Bale isn't the type to throw a hissy fit about being left out when he has been injured.
In the buildup to the Champions League Final the media is always looking for stories that will sell papers both in Madrid and here.
Bale's injury return and Isco's form have made this too easy a story to spin. Plus, United's longstanding interest gives the story an air of plausibility.
But after the final is over there will be real stories to report on.
Madrid are not daft enough to sell Bale, and Bale isn't the type to throw a hissy fit about being left out when he has been injured.
I personally think he's bulked up too much and ever since, he's been more injury prone. He has lost that subtlness in his body.
He had that big injury before Xmas but Madrid's mismanagment has held him back ove the last 3 odd months.
He hasn't fully recovered because of it imo.
Interesting coincidence:
de Gea has played exactly 200 league games for United and 269 games in total;
Bale has played exactly 100 league games for United (EDIT: Real Madrid) and 149 games in total.
Yes, I'm pretty bored.
de Gea has played exactly 200 league games for United and 269 games in total;
Bale has played exactly 100 league games for United (EDIT: Real Madrid) and 149 games in total.
Yes, I'm pretty bored.
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He is a genuinely world class player. Only the three Barca forwards and Ronaldo I'd rate higher. But his fitness levels would be such a concern.
His injury record would probably mean Real could be open to selling to us but only if they get De Gea. I'm not convinced paying a huge fee and losing our best player in exchange for a player who may only play half the season is a good deal.
Having said that the potential of this transfer would be mega. He could completely destroy the Premier League and his attributes of speed, power and finishing is exactly what we are missing - number 9 or not.
His injury record would probably mean Real could be open to selling to us but only if they get De Gea. I'm not convinced paying a huge fee and losing our best player in exchange for a player who may only play half the season is a good deal.
Having said that the potential of this transfer would be mega. He could completely destroy the Premier League and his attributes of speed, power and finishing is exactly what we are missing - number 9 or not.
His legs are dropping to bits.
Yep, if he wasn't an injury concern he wouldn't be available.
You wouldn't buy a car that kept blowing head gaskets. Bale relies on his physicality, if he's got a chronic calf issue it's a big deal.
fixedInteresting coincidence:
de Gea has played exactly 200 league games for United and 269 games in total;
Bale has played exactly 0 league games for United and 0 games in total.
Yes, I'm pretty bored.
Would be madness to go for him, he is 28 and a crock.
If we target Bale it might suggest we are not as close to aigning Perisic as the rumors suggested recently. Does Bale track back a lot though? Presumably he doesn't need to as mich at Real Madrid because they probably attack a lot mire than they defend. I wonder if his ego has gotten too large to go back to contributing defensively?
They might not affect each other as Bale plays predominantly on the right.
I think I need to post some numbers here so people wake up.
Bale has a contract till 2022 where he earns £18m or £350k pw after tax. That is almost £30m or £600k pw gross. And that's for 6 more years until he is 33. If we were to sign him on similar terms and length for £80m, his combined salary+transfer cost would be an outlay of over £45m a year for a total of £270m. I hope you are starting to realise the size of the gamble.
If Real were to sell Bale they really have very very limited options. No Italian or German club would go anywhere that contract price, not even half of it. The only teams capable of paying it are perhaps United and City. Mayyybe PSG though I doubt it. And I still don't think any of them would offer that kind of money with such along contract duration to a guy with that many recent injuries.
Bale is going knowhere. He does't want to leave (just signed a new contract ffs) and he's too big a gamble given the cost for anyone else to take on after his recent injuries.
Amazing player though he is when fit, I wouldn't want us to be the ones that take this risk. Especially when he's not even keen to be here
Bale has a contract till 2022 where he earns £18m or £350k pw after tax. That is almost £30m or £600k pw gross. And that's for 6 more years until he is 33. If we were to sign him on similar terms and length for £80m, his combined salary+transfer cost would be an outlay of over £45m a year for a total of £270m. I hope you are starting to realise the size of the gamble.
If Real were to sell Bale they really have very very limited options. No Italian or German club would go anywhere that contract price, not even half of it. The only teams capable of paying it are perhaps United and City. Mayyybe PSG though I doubt it. And I still don't think any of them would offer that kind of money with such along contract duration to a guy with that many recent injuries.
Bale is going knowhere. He does't want to leave (just signed a new contract ffs) and he's too big a gamble given the cost for anyone else to take on after his recent injuries.
Amazing player though he is when fit, I wouldn't want us to be the ones that take this risk. Especially when he's not even keen to be here
We sign Bale, lose De Gea and Bale get injured in his first training session. It's very predictable.
Do not want!
Do not want!
I dont even remember him, says a lot about how shit he was for us. Do not want!Interesting coincidence:
de Gea has played exactly 200 league games for United and 269 games in total;
Bale has played exactly 100 league games for United and 149 games in total.
Yes, I'm pretty bored.
Lovely... He's 28 next month by the by.
Someone had done the figures of the total days he's been injured in the last 2 seasons, it was in the hundreds.
Would link it if I could recall which thread.
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I can't see him being a Mourinho player, i suspect Woody wants him for his marketing appeal and his vision of Utd.
Pretty much, they've just priced him out of the market with that contract. No one. not even us, City or PSG are offering that for a guy with question marks over his fitness.
I can. He's quick, strong and one of the best headers of a ball in the world. Maybe not as defensive as other options but he would be our star player.
I would seriously rather have Jamez or Morata, who both will give more in terms of games and effort.
Buy him for 120mil fine, De Gea for Bale? No fecking way.
Despite his injury history, i would be willing to go full blown muppet should a credible source come to light with serious news. Bale is a top tier player, there is no doubting that at all, and as a former full back he understands the defensive side of the game to an extent that would suit Mourinho.
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