Garnacho (Out) | Amorim tells him to find new club (Athletic)

Should never sell him. People saying he’s got attitude problems as a reason to leave while we’re also buying cunha who is also a bit of a loose cannon. Makes no sense. And for a manger who I like but don’t trust and could be gone in a few months
 
NicolaSacco said:
He’s got that Ronaldo-type arrogance about him, hasn’t he. It isn’t necessarily a bad thing for a player to have; a lot of forwards have a bit of a selfish, nasty element. But I agree, it doesn’t make him very likeable.
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I’ve felt the same since last season too. Unfortunately he’s not been able to back it up with consistency. Put him in Ronaldo’s United team under Fergie and no doubt he’d be tearing it up - albeit still making mistakes etc - because he’ll be in a better system, a more conducive environment and surrounded by better coaches.

If he goes to Italy then he’ll be smashing it within a couple of years. He may not become a regular goal scorer, but he’ll terrorise defenders and get plenty of assists.

I’d prefer him to stay, but not sure that’s how he feels nor the hierarchy.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
Should never sell him. People saying he’s got attitude problems as a reason to leave while we’re also buying cunha who is also a bit of a loose cannon. Makes no sense. And for a manger who I like but don’t trust and could be gone in a few months
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Garnacho out for £50 million and Cuhna in for £62 million could be the attacking equivalent of the Mctominay out Ugarte in transfer for us from last season.

I'd still lean to towards selling him, even if it's for the players sake, as it's pretty clear it's going to take a few years to get our house in order, and Amorim obviously has an issue with him.

Just insert clauses galore into any deal we do.
 
are we really gonna get 50m for this guy?

he wants out, we want him out, and his ego/ability ratio is all out of whack
 
soapythecat said:
He’s fulllof himself it seems. There a very good winger in there but no place for him in this system. I actually think he’s tried hard to adjust the #10 role on the left but he’s just not clinical enough.
Watch him go to Napoli and rip the place up. If we are sticking with Amorim then I feel he needs to go.
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Absolutely certain this will happen. He's developing slowly but steadily now and with only 20 years on the clock, he has so much time on his side to develop into one of the best players around. Italy will suit him too, it's just way less intense than Prem, he will benefit the same way Antony did in Betis, bit more space and establish himself as one of the best players in the league and maybe world later on.

The problem is not the talent but attitude obviously, we should aim to skin anyone who would fancy to buy him though. We dont need to sell, Amorim can talk to the kid for a couple of years but it might repeat, so 70m+ some cheeky add ons now could be fair enough to reinvest in Mbeumo/Eze, or even Osimhen and money
 
The amount of people that want to sell him because of his bad attitude, which pretty much boils down to wanting to play, but then in the next breath want to replace him with Cunha, a player who at 6 years his senior has shown far more issues with his attitude than Garnacho ever has.

The fact that so many have been gaslit by this manager into believing selling our two brightest academy prospects, who less than 12 months ago played a major part is us winning the FA cup, in order to fund his revolution is the right thing to do is staggering.
 
Sell. He is not as good as he think he is. Lacks end product and has attitude issues. We just need to invest the money we get right and bring a better player in and we will be better for it.
 
He’s talented, and obviously has passion for this club which is something we can’t say about every player here. However, I feel he thinks he’s a lot better than he is in the present moment and we don’t need massive ego’s who can’t back it up right now. If he leaves, we must replace him with another decent, productive 10 who can produce.
 
Camilo said:
He'd sort Cantona, Keane and a young Ronaldo out sharpish!
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A bit different situations. Cantona was delivering and had special status for it. Keane was a leader on the pitch and Ronaldo? Teammates had personalities and sorted him out mostly in training ground already. But to go against Fergie? There was always only one winner. And this is as it should be. You as a club back the manager 100% or sack him. So if we continue with Amorim even for half a season he is the boss in the dressing room and on the pitch and this is how it should be. But also the club should target players for their philosophy of playing regardless of the manager and system. And if you have a to cocky 20 year old with attitude issues that do not offset hit performances and delivery on the pitch that thinks he can hold club for ransom you sell him.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
Is he right to feel this way? Maybe but he has an utter shit mentality. Age 20 and feels pretty entitled.
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He shouldn't have gone public with it but I think he's right to feel aggrieved. He's a young player playing in a completely disjointed team and while he's been far from faultless, he's been overlooked for our biggest match of the season for Mason Mount of all people.

Garnacho probably felt the writing was on the wall anyway but saying what he has pretty much guarantees he won't be here next season. Amorim unceremoniously kicked Rashford out of the club for less than this.
 
Malone_Post said:
The amount of people that want to sell him because of his bad attitude, which pretty much boils down to wanting to play, but then in the next breath want to replace him with Cunha, a player who at 6 years his senior has shown far more issues with his attitude than Garnacho ever has.

The fact that so many have been gaslit by this manager into believing selling our two brightest academy prospects, who less than 12 months ago played a major part is us winning the FA cup, in order to fund his revolution is the right thing to do is staggering.
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It’s mind blowing.

The only thing I think is the grass is greener syndrome and wanting shiney new toys
 
You are allowed to be a prima donna if you deliver on the pitch. People will accommodate it - fans, teammates, coaches and the club.

You’re not if you have failed to produce. Garnacho sadly is in the latter camp and should just shut the feck up and get on with it. Sounds like he wants to move and if that’s the case then we need to sell.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
It’s mind blowing.

The only thing I think is the grass is greener syndrome and wanting shiney new toys
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Pure profit is the real answer. Selling ganrachonpotbetially allows investment in 2/3 similar value players and we’re in dire need
 
It’s also not the first time he or his brother have been outspoken or that Garnacho has said or done something brining his attitude into question. By 20 no less.

I really like him as a footballer but I can see the reasons for selling.
 
So McTominay winning the league with Napoli is being derided and in this thread we should fear losing Garnacho to Napoli as he will tear up Serie A!! Garnacho has been extremely wasteful all season and yes he is young so not that unexpected. The problem as many have pointed out is his attitude, and that has been an issue since breaking into the first team and looks to be getting worse when you would expect him to be maturing somewhat. United need to build a team and Garnacho is not a team player. He has been called out for his decision making and the reason it is so bad, I believe, is because his first thought is always about him rather than the team. United may well need to rely on more youth players breaking through and this guy sets the wrong example.
 
friendlytramp said:
Pure profit is the real answer. Selling ganrachonpotbetially allows investment in 2/3 similar value players and we’re in dire need
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You think we sell Garnacho for £50mil and then can buy 2 or 3 similar quality players for that £50mil or even £100mil? I have my doubts on that.

3 dorgu level players? Great.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Garnacho out for £50 million and Cuhna in for £62 million could be the attacking equivalent of the Mctominay out Ugarte in transfer for us from last season.

I'd still lean to towards selling him, even if it's for the players sake, as it's pretty clear it's going to take a few years to get our house in order, and Amorim obviously has an issue with him.

Just insert clauses galore into any deal we do.
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Ugarte was a PSG flop whose characteristics were not suited to the PL or the top level. Cunha has 40 goals + assists in the last two PL seasons. I would keep Garnacho as a squad player, but that's a role he's seemingly not satisfied with. Selling him could also help buy someone like Mbeumo.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
You think we sell Garnacho for £50mil and then can buy 2 or 3 similar quality players for that £50mil or even £100mil? I have my doubts on that.

3 dorgu level players? Great.
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Said this before but you can realistically sell Garna and bring in Mbuemo at net zero cost.

Mbuemo should be an immediate substantial improvement suited to the 10 more naturally. Whilst Garnacho ceiling may be higher given his age, it will likely not be realised before a couple seasons.

Given our predicament, the value to us of realising an Mbuemo player immediately is greater than hoping Garnacho can make levels up after two seasons.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
Should never sell him. People saying he’s got attitude problems as a reason to leave while we’re also buying cunha who is also a bit of a loose cannon. Makes no sense. And for a manger who I like but don’t trust and could be gone in a few months
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Cunha has bit of a temper towards the opposition when his team's getting beat/struggling, Garnacho throws shade at his club when he's not treated like the second coming of Ronaldo.

One is disciplinary the other is attitude.

I would argue Cunha has the type of mentality this team is missing, he cares about winning games.
 
Everyone says shite in the heat of the moment, I mean what did we all say at Full Time on Wednesday?

Seriously just get him in, sit him down, do you want to stay or go?

If he wants out - sell him on our terms and be done with it.

We cannot pander to anyone anymore.

You in or are you out? Simple question to a lot of these players. And the ones that we want out just tell them to get their agents looking for a new club.
 
Malone_Post said:
The amount of people that want to sell him because of his bad attitude, which pretty much boils down to wanting to play, but then in the next breath want to replace him with Cunha, a player who at 6 years his senior has shown far more issues with his attitude than Garnacho ever has.

The fact that so many have been gaslit by this manager into believing selling our two brightest academy prospects, who less than 12 months ago played a major part is us winning the FA cup, in order to fund his revolution is the right thing to do is staggering.
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25 games or something without a goal.

Since Amorim came in to end of Feb most shots in the league without a goal.

Yeah he's young and he will get better. But we're not being gaslit. He's been rubbish this season.
 
Vault Dweller said:
No denying his talent. But his ego and attitude are certainly a problem.
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Are we sure there’s much talent? I like him but at times but he feels like another player that doesn’t particularly excel at anything or have any major strengths. If his finishing was better he could easily be a 20+ goal a season wide player because he does get in good positions but his finishing is so poor and he’s not really any excellent playmaker either so I don’t know if we would regret selling him.
 
Good young player who could get better, but I don't like his inflated sense of entitlement. He's a youngster in pretty iffy form, the manager has every right to use you as an impact sub in a big final. Get on with it.

I'd go with sell if we can get a good price, which we absolutely should be able to. He'll do very well abroad.
 
Young with a lot of potential. His attitude and his annoying brother are causing the biggest issues. I wouldn't sell him, I think he's getting vastly underrated because people are angry with his stupid comments and how he conducts himself. There's a lot of talent there.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Garnacho out for £50 million and Cuhna in for £62 million could be the attacking equivalent of the Mctominay out Ugarte in transfer for us from last season.

I'd still lean to towards selling him, even if it's for the players sake, as it's pretty clear it's going to take a few years to get our house in order, and Amorim obviously has an issue with him.

Just insert clauses galore into any deal we do.
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Unlikely we will get many clauses agreed if we are looking at £50m+
 
Marwood said:
Agree about him being too young to judge in terms of on pitch performance.

But it's just his attitude and personality. Personally I just don't like the lad.

There have been issues with his ego since he first came into the squad at 18.

Didn't he get dropped during his first pre season for repeatedly being late for training? That's some nerve as an 18 year old.
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For sure, he does have the air of being a bit of a twat (maybe he just has one of those faces). He doesn't act like one on the pitch as far as I can tell. He works hard and applies himself whenever he plays.

Yeah he did but I think Ten Hag praised him later in the season for bucking his ideas up and cutting that kind of stuff out. Whether or not he's gonna be disruptive in the dressing room I don't know. He's obviously gone if Amorim stays, which seems likely.
 
Why are people so scared of him leaving and ripping up Serie A? the top three rated players this season are Lookman, McTominay and then Thuram and they're not exactly world beaters.

He's obviously going to go there and be one of the best players because he's a really good young player but that's the very reason we would be getting £50+ million, clubs don't pay that amount of money unless they think they're buying a really good player.

Utd fans complain that they never get decent fees for their players but are never willing to sell anybody that is above average.

I'd also be willing to wager that if he played for another team this past two season people would be calling him crap. He's been no better (actually worse this season) than the likes of Madueke, Martinelli, Doku etc and nobody seems to rate them.
 
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I don't like his attitude but I am worried we're going to get rid of almost all our wingers this summer which will probably cause problems for whoever the next manager is if Amorim goes mid season.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
You think we sell Garnacho for £50mil and then can buy 2 or 3 similar quality players for that £50mil or even £100mil? I have my doubts on that.

3 dorgu level players? Great.
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What level is Garnacho?

PL - 36 games, 6 goals and 2 assists

EL - 15 games, 1 goal and 4 assists.

I wouldn’t be averse to keeping him, but he can’t be a starter with those numbers and he doesn’t seem content being a rotational player either.
 
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