Big Andy
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Racist.Call a spade a spade
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Racist.Call a spade a spade
Agree with this. If you look at a guy and think bald, it probably says a lot about the workings of your mind and how you identify every group of people, regardless of what comes out of your mouth.I don't think MOTD is a place for these kinds of jokes personally. Main difference with this joke and a few others is that joking about people going bald is seen as socially acceptable (50% of people refer to Guardiola this way) who would never dare to call him a black fraud or gay fraud etc. Of course people shouldn't be too sensitive, and we can't always police everything, but there are thinks I don't think should me said on certain TV shows such as MOTD.
Fine but it's to their mates said in good spirit. If the suggestion is they can't joke amongst themselves if the joke applies equally to other individuals that's a sad state of censorship, to me at least. It's an entertainment show at the end of the day so i don't think it can be classed as unexpected, it isn't the news.Sure but the context here is that they're making these jokes on a national TV.
Yet being fat is usually something someone does to themselves yet its no longer ok to mock them for being a greedy whale.Bald jokes are an interesting one. Going bald is traumatic for a lot of people. For some it causes crippling anxiety and depression yet it is seen as socially acceptable to mock people for it.
Probably just people who like football i guess.Who even watches MOTD anymore anyway? I’m assuming it’s just Top Gear fans who have had to migrate elsewhere for their helping of shite dad banter.
It can sometimes be hormonal to be fair.Yet being fat is usually something someone does to themselves yet its no longer ok to mock them for being a greedy whale.
I haven’t lived in the UK for well over a decade but I assume it’s actually the 21st century over there and you don’t still have to rely on watching some stale old farts at 10:30 on a Saturday night to get the highlights.Probably just people who like football i guess.
Don't be so offensive.I haven’t lived in the UK for well over a decade but I assume it’s actually the 21st century over there and you don’t still have to rely on watching some stale old farts at 10:30 on a Saturday night to get the highlights.
Your post hurt my feelingsDon't be so offensive.
Pure speculation - but I imagine it's people who enjoy football.Who even watches MOTD anymore anyway? I’m assuming it’s just Top Gear fans who have had to migrate elsewhere for their helping of shite dad banter.
Watching MOTD is a tradition for most people.I haven’t lived in the UK for well over a decade but I assume it’s actually the 21st century over there and you don’t still have to rely on watching some stale old farts at 10:30 on a Saturday night to get the highlights.
I think MOTD is pretty ingrained into English culture if you pre-date the internet era. The theme music is iconic for a start. I don't watch it often but its a kind of reassuring to know its there.I haven’t lived in the UK for well over a decade but I assume it’s actually the 21st century over there and you don’t still have to rely on watching some stale old farts at 10:30 on a Saturday night to get the highlights.
I'm not viewing this through the lens of politics here. Forget about who you think made the complaint and if it was politically loaded because Linekar has a similar political alignment to you.Fine but it's to their mates said in good spirit. If the suggestion is they can't joke amongst themselves if the joke applies equally to other individuals that's a sad state of censorship, to me at least. It's an entertainment show at the end of the day so i don't think it can be classed as unexpected, it isn't the news.
There's a leap of difference between making jokes about superficial characteristics (bald/big nose) that don't really matter and jokes about people who face a genuine hardship because of their skin/sexuality etc.
I'm fairly certain these complaints are from the Brexit lot who hate Gary due to his twitter activity.
Totally agree. As I mentioned previously, it is something that causes mental health issues for many men.I've always found it quite strange how taking the piss out of someone being bald is acceptable. If it was women that tended to go bald I doubt it would be, because as @Classical Mechanic says, it can be hard for some to deal with and you can bet this would be brought up. I think this is down to the culture of blokes not wanting to show weakness and make a meal out of it themselves. Maybe it's best not to take everything as too offensive though, I dunno.
Hope where you live is better than here then, good luckI haven’t lived in the UK for well over a decade but I assume it’s actually the 21st century over there and you don’t still have to rely on watching some stale old farts at 10:30 on a Saturday night to get the highlights.
I think most jokes similar to the bald ones can be tailored from person to person, like lineaker with hoddle, he clearly recognises that hoddle doesn't mind, same with Murphy and shearer.Thing is I'm bald and I don't mind bald jokes and make them myself but I work with one guy who is obviously extremely sensitive about it. Should his feelings not be considered?
I'd also add that when I went bald I did find it traumatic, to an extent, for a couple of years and it did cause anxiety.
I feel emotionally vulnerable now.I haven’t lived in the UK for well over a decade but I assume it’s actually the 21st century over there and you don’t still have to rely on watching some stale old farts at 10:30 on a Saturday night to get the highlights.
Of course but not everyone has sky or likes thrir coverage. Plus its quite nice to avoid the scores all day and watch it.I haven’t lived in the UK for well over a decade but I assume it’s actually the 21st century over there and you don’t still have to rely on watching some stale old farts at 10:30 on a Saturday night to get the highlights.
The difference is that it's on TV to a large audience...I have a gay friend and some of our conversations/jokes would get me sacked, so I'd never say them at work or in front of people I didn't know. You go to a Frankie Boyle show and you know what to expect or could leave....when it's taxpayer funded MOTD, then it's a bit different.I think most jokes similar to the bald ones can be tailored from person to person, like lineaker with hoddle, he clearly recognises that hoddle doesn't mind, same with Murphy and shearer.
I think it has its uses. No-one is crying about the word gammon being trotted out in these threads.The amount of people in this thread using the term "snowflake" without irony is more sad and worrying than any number of Gary Lineker's Dad jokes tbh.
You re coming up extremely big headed and ignorant, whilst also insulting half of the posters who watch motd, and even took a shot at top gear fans. Give it a rest, couple of Xanax pills, we ll be here waitingI haven’t lived in the UK for well over a decade but I assume it’s actually the 21st century over there and you don’t still have to rely on watching some stale old farts at 10:30 on a Saturday night to get the highlights.
Heh.I think it has its uses. No-one is crying about the word gammon being trotted out in these threads.
Ah Des was the manRemember when RVN was getting called Horseface a lot in the press? Lineker quipped on MOTD “why the long face Ruud”?
I went all snowflake and wrote an email to the bbc along the lines of I tune in to watch football highlights not to watch linekers poor standup comedian routine
Not been the same since Des left
I genuinely don’t understand the shit he gets. Pardon the pun.Lineker is great.
He’s witty, enjoyable to listen to and probably one of the best interviewers in football.I genuinely don’t understand the shit he gets. Pardon the pun.
He comes across like a really nice bloke. I know he’s accused of being a bit of a ‘luvvie’ by certain crowds, but he seems to divide opinion in ways I can’t really fathom.
He’s committed the heinous crime of cracking a joke. Oh no.
You're right. Laddish "banter" and football just don't mix. They've clearly misjudged their target audience.I don't think MOTD is a place for these kinds of jokes personally. Main difference with this joke and a few others is that joking about people going bald is seen as socially acceptable (50% of people refer to Guardiola this way) who would never dare to call him a black fraud or gay fraud etc. Of course people shouldn't be too sensitive, and we can't always police everything, but there are thinks I don't think should me said on certain TV shows such as MOTD.
Come on, Top Gear fans are absolutely fair game.You re coming up extremely big headed and ignorant, whilst also insulting half of the posters who watch motd, and even took a shot at top gear fans. Give it a rest, couple of Xanax pills, we ll be here waiting
Yeah, agreed.He’s witty, enjoyable to listen to and probably one of the best interviewers in football.
He seamlessly made the transition from footballer to presenter. Think people take his tongue in cheek jokes too seriously.
Different story if women went bald.Bald jokes are an interesting one. Going bald is traumatic for a lot of people. For some it causes crippling anxiety and depression yet it is seen as socially acceptable to mock people for it.
He riled up the Daily Mail lot by actually having a social conscience. He seems like a decent fella but he’s never stood much chance of being entertaining surrounded by dullards like Shearer and Murphy.I genuinely don’t understand the shit he gets. Pardon the pun.
He comes across like a really nice bloke. I know he’s accused of being a bit of a ‘luvvie’ by certain crowds, but he seems to divide opinion in ways I can’t really fathom.
He’s committed the heinous crime of cracking a joke. Oh no.