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Sir, that is literally the PRC's state news.
Sir, The Peoples Party believes NATO should be disbanded.
“Swallowed”… That is such a stupid way of describing the attractions of the freeest, richest and most advanced countries in the world to countries broken by the communists.
I’m glad I was sitting down to read that. Total shocker.
I think it's quite irrelevant to the point. Replace it with any word you prefer.
Why are you posting an article from Chinese state media which is from three days after the invasion? Honestly, no matter how valid your points may or may not be, you have to realize that's a bad decision.
Nope, they have a choice. If Moldova and Ukraine integrated further with the West, hell if Russia dropped all dictator chip on shoulder bullshit and started working for their citizens and moving closer to the West. They'd fecking thrive.
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Has there been a legitimate explanation of how NATO’s existence in Europe is a security threat to Russia? What have I missed?
Erm a defensive alliance is not a threat to Russia. And the western powers can lop nukes at Russia without a Ukraine border. Several countries with borders to Russia are already part of Nato and the current war demonstrates why that is a very good decision.
Well if they invaded a Nato country then they with have to fight the whole of Nato.
Which is why Putin doesn’t want his neighbors joining NATO. Because he wants to invade them without the threat of having to deal with an all of NATO response.
Damn, if only there were a way for Russia to avoid that.
If only democracy didn’t exist in Ukraine (thereby along Russian borders), Putin wouldn’t need to invade his neighbors.
[Yakov Smirnoff] In Putinist Russia, democracy rig you! [Yakov Smirnoff]
Don’t disagree, but Iraq / Afghans didn’t have the force projection capabilities that Russia has, plus there are no huge American air bases in country.
You talk as if the USA hasn't enforced regime change on democratically elected governments for their own interest
You don't think Nato is an expansion of US power?
I would disagree on both points. If Russia goes Democratic with a leader like (for example Navalny), then there’s no need to obsess over any former Soviet states. The only reason Putin is doing is because he’s an authoritarian ultranationalist. If you remove those two components you also remove predatory Russian behavior towards its neighbors.
Same world where you attacked Iraq for WMDs
I’m sorry, but in this world of yours, did Iraq have just as large a nuclear arsenal as NATO?
Right, so basically you don’t like the US, and therefore are inventing a scenario in LaLa Land in which NATO pre-emptively invades its only nuclear peer in the world.
I don't think a Nato power would invade Russia but I can understand their concern with having a pro-America country on their door step. Considering how pro regime change the USA is
This is what you were asked…
To which you said…
So which is it? Because this whole “the Russians have a legitimate reason to fear NATO” is absolute Pravda level stuff. NATO is no more an existential threat for Russia than Ukraine is.
I’m sorry, what?
Not primarily, no, although it certainly helps with the expansion of US power, just as any collective group amplifies the efforts of the individuals in that collective. By the same token, Estonia's power is also enhanced by being in NATO.
In my opinion I think Nato could be used for aggressive wars in the future like Libya and Serbia. If I was Russian I would be wary of this fact and make sure they aren't on my door step. I think Nato is an expansion of US foreign power.
A defensive alliance which sometimes engages in offensive actions
That's an impressively unhinged take on this war.
@Attila This u, hon?
USA USA USA!
I’m puzzled, are we discussing the US now? We’ve moved off of NATO?
Out of curiosity, where are you from?
Scotland
