That's also the only one I can think off and it's even not an obvious mistake.
Because you claim it happens all the time so I'm sure it must be very easy for you give a few examples.
That's at least 5 years ago. What's the purpose in bringing up the old times. And even back then I doubt there was a clear pattern of Bayern being favored.
Every wrongful decision pro Bayern will bring up the huge anti Bayern front in full arms.
Well in that case maybe you should just check the most objective opinion (as in fans of all clubs can vote/decide) regarding this issue?It's a bit funny how all you guys are suddenly pointing out that one should always focus on your own mistakes as uf you were the first to discover that improving the things you have actual control over is the secret to success. I think everybody is aware of this. It still sucks when you've played well enough to secure three points but missed out on these because of something you couldn't control.
And it's only natural to get angry about that, especially when it was such an important game. I can't recall Bayern having to suffer such a point loss in such a decisive situation due to (a) referee mistake(s) while I remember multiple occasions that worked against Dortmund in a title race with Bayern. And that makes sense because the Bayern officials always knew how to punish these things by building up public pressure.
The only comparable situation to this from Bayern's perspective was the CL tie they lost against Madrid and even then it was pretty ridiculous since Bayern was lucky Vidal wasn't sent off before they were disadvantaged. Didn't stop every Bayern official and fan to go completely nuts over it.
Easy to appeal to self reflection when it's rarely yourself finding yourself screwed by the referee
Show me
No I didn't. I said it happens more frequently which is different. I wouldn't even rule out that there were seasons in which Bayern had a net disadvantage.
Actually I've been trying at different times today to visit the website and look at the criteria. I imagine since they are attibuting points, instances like the Adeyemi situation won't be captured in that table since Dortmund could have missed the penalty.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sport1.de/article/5715835
As amazing story that would be, I am rooting for St Pauli to catch the #3 still and come to Bundesliga - our Estonian center back Karol Mets joined them on loan this winter and has been vital part of their back 3 ever since.
Pauli and Union in the Bundesliga and HSV and Hertha in the second league would certainly be a funny development but I doubt St. Pauli will make it, there simply aren't enough games left.
"even if the most objective source on that matter proofs that Bayern were not favored by the refs, it doesnt mean anything because I cant remember games were Bayern was disadvantaged by the ref"
Mate, you bring up some superficial arguments with completely flawed methodology and at the same time there are actually studies with statistical evidence of a big club bonus and you call me a clown?
Of course Bayern gets much more Jesus attention than any other club. They have the most fans as well as the most haters.
Based on one professor and data that are 10 years and older.Mate, you bring up some superficial arguments with completely flawed methodology and at the same time there are actually studies with statistical evidence of a big club bonus and you call me a clown?
1. At least I have arguments and dont only recall my bad memory as proof for anythingMate, you bring up some superficial arguments with completely flawed methodology and at the same time there are actually studies with statistical evidence of a big club bonus and you call me a clown?
Can't make that up. At least you've proven that knowing the Dunning Kruger effect doesn't mean you can't be subject to it. And in true Dunnjng Kruger fashion, you're too incompetent to even realize it. 'Most objective source', of course buddy
First of all, I didn't indend to fight with you so apologies that my last post was a bit provocative.
One way or another, no referee wants this attention. I mean, a mistake against Bochum will cause a bit of outrage by the Bochum officials and some Bochum fans will write nasty stuff on social media, sure, but a mistake against Bayern and all this amplifies a hundred times. Of course a referee mistake that advantages Bayern will also get more attention but not to the same extent.
Actually, one of the studies is from 2016. But yeah, the VAR eliminated much room for mistakes which is why I'm still a huge fan of it. Yet there still is room for mistakes as evidenced by the Adeyemi situation.
If this was true, the particular person wouldn't be qualified to be top league referee.
Well, then nobody is qualified to be a top league referee. Maybe AI can take over at some point but until then we have to live with the shortcomings of the human psyche
Nonsense and you know it! Like there are players that aren't intimidated or affected to play at a hostile ground, there are definitely referees who don't succumb to the pressure the home crowd or a big team like Bayern put on them. After all you don't need dozens but only maybe 15 top referees.
By now I think we can be sure it will not be 8:0 in the end. Would be hilarious if it stays 0:0 and Bayern waste their opportunity to overtake Dortmund.
I will take that 2:0
No, I don't know that
Well then you learnt something today.
And no one will talk about it since Bayern won and Zehner would never have noticed. (Btw, I think that it was completely okay to let them play on today.)Well then you learnt something today.
The incident when Coman came to fall in the penalty area in the first half was very similar to the scene between Plea and Upamecano in Gladbach. Both were minimal touches while the striker was at high speed.
In Gladbach it was freekick and a red card, today the referee let play on. Another proof that you are just believing in conspiracies that Bayern always get the close calls.
I'm totally with you here. However, the referee should have done the same in Gladbach as well.
Funnily I see the empathy more that awakens in about every referee that comes to the Westfalenstadion for the BVB players...
That's a bit anecdotal, isn't it? What we need is sombody who conducts an empirical research that analyzes whether Bayern profits more often from refereeing mistakes than other teams. Wait..
That's also been suggested by the study by the way. Home advantage is a thing, especially in front of huge crowds.
that might be a factor if there was one team of superstars in a league with 17 other teams of complete nobodies.
VAR is supposed to intervene if the ref made a clear mistake or the ref didnt see a certain action.
Did you actually really believed that Gladbach could get a result in Dortmund?
I certainly didnt expect them to just bend over for Dortmund
Isn't that what they regularly do in Dortmund? Can't remember when they got a point there the last time.
