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I understand MU fans ambivalence with Rashford though, Sane is just as insufferable when his purple patch is over.
All of them in terms of covered distances I guess. Xhaka isn't the player he was for Gladbach anymore, he barely tackles at all. The physicality is provided by the defenders behind them as three at the back allows the CBs to defend aggresively on the front foot. Rüdiger and Hummels/Schlotterbeck love this. They are very similar to Kossounou and Tapsoba respectively. Kimmich as a RWB would play in the mirrored Grimaldo role. Wirtz and Musiala behind Undav or Füllkrug. Basically the same formation Stuttgart and Leverkusen are playing.Which of them has the grit engine and hardwork of Xhaka
what will be a starting 11 with all of them in the team
You can fault his efforts but the results are so frustrating for a long time now.I understand MU fans ambivalence with Rashford though, Sane is just as insufferable when his purple patch is over.
Like you said it's in a 3-4-3, so with extra protection at the back. If we want to go with that formation then it might work though I still have a lot of doubts of the running ability of both, Xhaka and Palacios are both very energetic footballers. I think Flick tried that sometimes, with Gnabry and Sane as strikers, with varying degrees of success, iirc it was mostly successful.Don't really get why Gündogan/Kross shouldn't work out when Xhaka/Palacios does in a 3-4-3. For me it is more about how well you can drill the system in in such a short amount of time. The 4-2-3-1 would be the more pragmatic and less ambitious choice but it could also make sense.
One way or another, Wirtz has to start. He does everything Musiala does better than him so I struggle to see any reasoning to have him in the starting eleven ahead of Wirtz. But it really shouldn't be one or the other.
But why would he not work with Gündogan and Kroos? That would actually be ideal seeing how well he links up with Xhaka, Palacios, Andrich and Grimaldo. They are a match made in heaven.
If we go with a back 3Like you said it's in a 3-4-3, so with extra protection at the back. If we want to go with that formation then it might work though I still have a lot of doubts of the running ability of both, Xhaka and Palacios are both very energetic footballers. I think Flick tried that sometimes, with Gnabry and Sane as strikers, with varying degrees of success, iirc it was mostly successful.
Wirtz definitely doesn't dribble as well as Musiala and therefore would not be suited to a wing position, which is where I would have Musiala in a 4-3-3 formation.
Wirtz is playing the left wing for us. His heatmap is basically mirroring Sane's. And he is every bit as good at dribbling as Musiala Technically as good but much more effectiveLike you said it's in a 3-4-3, so with extra protection at the back. If we want to go with that formation then it might work though I still have a lot of doubts of the running ability of both, Xhaka and Palacios are both very energetic footballers. I think Flick tried that sometimes, with Gnabry and Sane as strikers, with varying degrees of success, iirc it was mostly successful.
Wirtz definitely doesn't dribble as well as Musiala and therefore would not be suited to a wing position, which is where I would have Musiala in a 4-3-3 formation.
It would be scandalous for them to not bother checking, they probably just finished it quickly.Chupo looked offside there for the goal
Why did VAR not check
VAR checks every goal.Chupo looked offside there for the goal
Why did VAR not check
It says a lot when things are so bad that putting your cards on the table doesn't cut it anymore.„Wir müssen Eier auf den Tisch legen.“
I don't think you'll find anyone else who would say Wirtz is as good a dribbler as Musiala. Stats wise as well Musiala attempts many more dribbles, per 90 but also more when compare it to the number of touches both players have (Wirtz has a lot more touches but Musiala still attempts more dribbles). Both have a similar dribble success percentage but Musiala attempts more difficult dribbles, both have a higher success rate than Vinicius as well but again no one would say either are better dribblers than him.Wirtz is playing the left wing for us. His heatmap is basically mirroring Sane's. And he is every bit as good at dribbling as Musiala Technically as good but much more effective
You're probably right that most will see Musiala as a better dribbler but IMO that is primarily because Wirtz' passing ability is more in the focus. His dribbling abilities aren't really that present in match highlights, he has held himself back for Germany so far, etc. He dribbles a bit less this season in comparison to last where his dribbling statistics were significantly better (3.97 successful dribbles per 90 to 3,16) than Musiala's. Even this season, he is better in carries than him. I also disagree with the notion that Musiala tries more difficult dribbles - since his comeback, Wirtz has shown some absolutely insane solo runs that remind me very much of the famous "Messi vs. no space" videos - he seems to find ways to escape in seemingly hopeless situations and usually even in the direction of the opponent's goal. Those aren't the typical one on one situations in which somebody like Coman excells but it is IMO the most difficult way to dribble that you see very rarely at a high level. Some of those runs even lead to goals like his goal of the year against Freiburg or his solo goal against Monacco in last season's EL campaign. Musiala is probably a bit more "spectacular" due to his excessive use of croquetas but Wirtz is every bit as effective if not more.I don't think you'll find anyone else who would say Wirtz is as good a dribbler as Musiala. Stats wise as well Musiala attempts many more dribbles, per 90 but also more when compare it to the number of touches both players have (Wirtz has a lot more touches but Musiala still attempts more dribbles). Both have a similar dribble success percentage but Musiala attempts more difficult dribbles, both have a higher success rate than Vinicius as well but again no one would say either are better dribblers than him.
With regards to the heatmap, Wirtz does have a heatmap that dominates the left side, but the tactics Leverkusen play is very different to what Germany would play in a 4-2-3-1. Leverkusen don't have a player that solely plays the CAM role and their width is provided soley by the wing backs, plus Wirtz still plays the role of the primary playmaker in attacking midfield. If he plays on the left for Germany, then there will a lack of width in attack since the full backs cannot go foward with as much free will as Frimpong and Grimaldo do. Germany need a left winger who can attack the full backs on the outside and Wirtz is not the player who can do that.
If you want to play a 3 at the back formation with wing backs, then definitely Wirtz and Musiala can fit together because then the width will be provided by the full backs.
They re gonna rue losing that title for decades to come at this rate.Dortmund are a bit shite. The worst BVB I've seen in a long time.
Klopp's quitting the spot due to being burned out and has his consultant declare publicly that he wouldn't manage a club for at least a year afterwards, and you think his next move would be moving to Bayern where the pressure would be even higher, a club that Klopp has expressed his dislike for repeatedly?Just thinking...Klopp announces he is leaving Liverpool at the end of the season, then Tuchel announces he is leaving Bayern at the end of the season = Klopp will be the new Bayern manager, so, wouldn't be funny if he knocks Liverpool out of the ECL next season.
Just not your year. How close are Leverkusen to the title now?Another great goal. Feck this shit
They can already set up a pedestal for it and a shrine to Alonso.Just not your year. How close are Leverkusen to the title now?
Both frauds.Tuchel's Tottenhamification of Bayern is almost as impressive as what Poch managed at PSG.
Amazed he took Musiala off so soon after the goal unless he was being saved for Lazio?Poor subs from Tuchel
Probably thought "job done" and focusing on Lazio. Which probably is justified to prevent the next disaster.Amazed he took Musiala off so soon after the goal unless he was being saved for Lazio?
Bayern just defended after going 1-2 up and barely had an attack, Pavlovic pretty poor in and out of possession.