Is it us or bad reffing?
This is the 3rd game in a row we've done it I think.
This is the 3rd game in a row we've done it I think.
Giving away penalties
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What's the actual numbers/stats on our penalties conceded. I'm sure someone has them/can find them.
For me it seems this team give away a stupid penalty far more often than anyone else!
For me it seems this team give away a stupid penalty far more often than anyone else!
We've conceded one in every champions league game so far
When the penalties are correct as they have been it's clearly on us.
I have no idea what we do in training or what the players are being coached but it's clearly not been good enough.
I have no idea what we do in training or what the players are being coached but it's clearly not been good enough.
It almost feels like the benefit of the doubt is never given to us. Letter of the law approach any time we do something wrong
Well today was hypocritical reffing. Hojlund should of had 2 penalties given to him for the same thing this season - one in this very game and one vs Arsenal, that's without me checking how he's handled on crosses into him, but I'd say there's more.
I would not care in the slightest if we actually got penalties for the same fouls but we never do, City are on about 15 penalties this season already.
Maybe it'd be worth talking about if they were valid pens. Refs have been fecking garbage against us and giving us nothing and blowing the softest of shit for the opposition. Pathetic refereeing is all it is.
That was so soft. Can’t blame us for that.
Even Neville, who hates United, says it was soft.
Even Neville, who hates United, says it was soft.
Bayern and today aren’t pens. They’re so fecking eager to give them agains us
Usually focus on us but that decision is absolute bullshit.
We've had stone-wall pens not being given away and at the same time at home we're being shafted.
Michael Oliver should get the same letter Liverpool sent.
We've had stone-wall pens not being given away and at the same time at home we're being shafted.
Michael Oliver should get the same letter Liverpool sent.
Stupidity
If we were adventurous enough to consider venturing into the opposition box we might get a few ourselves.
Rubbish. There’s been plenty of doubt in them, even more so when we don’t get any up the other end for the exact same things.
Eriksen’s handball vs the Spurs one.
Today vs the Arsenal one.
These are basically identical, if not more obvious penalties for us.
It would be nice to see the penalties we’ve given away be given to us too. Handballs and man handling have have happened to our players and we’ve been given nothing.
The McTominay fouls were both penalties. Todays and Bayerns absolutely not and you haven’t seen then given against anyone else this season.
Maybe we need to start diving more as Rodri went down like he’s shot.
Maybe we need to start diving more as Rodri went down like he’s shot.
Its us. He's not trying to play the ball today, he's given up on Rodri's movement and Rodri feels it and goes down knowing he'll get it. Soft? A tiny bit. A foul? For sure
Soft isn’t covered by clear and obvious hence the problem
I mean, isnt clear and obvious not giving a penalty when it should be?
Don't know about the stats, but City as a posession team thst mostly play in the opposition's half will create more chances and will get more penalties.
No, that’s not a clear and obvious pen. That type of challenge happens every week. If the ref thinks that’s a pen then fair enough, I do t think VAR would get involved but it’s the same the other way as well.
Theres a high bar for a reason, are we suddenly going to pretend it doesn’t exist?
They've been getting soft penalties and decisions in their favour all season, just call a spade a spade.
Yes, Hojlund should have had a pen Vs Arsenal but today was also a stonewall penalty
Hojlund is woefully on the wrong side, makes no attempt to get back on the right side and just pulls at Rodri. Rodri isn't wrestling/ tussling and is heading for the ball
Hojlund stupid but it's a pen as should Maguire rear naked choking Stones. There are probably about 5 corners in every game that should be pens too
Hojlund is woefully on the wrong side, makes no attempt to get back on the right side and just pulls at Rodri. Rodri isn't wrestling/ tussling and is heading for the ball
Hojlund stupid but it's a pen as should Maguire rear naked choking Stones. There are probably about 5 corners in every game that should be pens too
I hope Bruno or better yet EtH comes out at full times and goes full Jose about the sheer inconsistencies when it comes to Man Utd and decisions in our games.
and raises the concerns that Michael Oliver has recently been on the UAE payroll.
and raises the concerns that Michael Oliver has recently been on the UAE payroll.
The two in the Champions League and the one today were all very soft. The Onana one v Wolves is the only bit of fortune we've had all season.
You wouldn't even mind if the threshold wasn't so high for us to get one - Cristian Romero's handball against us was about as stonewall as it gets and wasn't given.
You wouldn't even mind if the threshold wasn't so high for us to get one - Cristian Romero's handball against us was about as stonewall as it gets and wasn't given.
Exactly right, we could have Rashford hit with a blast from an RPG and I still don't think we'd get a pen.
VAR is crap.. it has spoilt the game at top level, lower level games don't have it and its so much better to watch.. CL games are better than Prem games as VAR is used better... Premier league officials are ruining the spectable of the game..
That today interference of VAR wasn't needed...... was it an error? Was it goal scoring chance? Both NO.. so why VAR .. never in a million years he's getting near that ball..
VAR is of no use..
That today interference of VAR wasn't needed...... was it an error? Was it goal scoring chance? Both NO.. so why VAR .. never in a million years he's getting near that ball..
VAR is of no use..
Agreed. He wasn't even gonna reach the ball and nobody even mentions that Rashfords defensive run was obstructed in similar fashion during the same phase of play. VAR is crap at the moment. It could be good but at this moment in time it is ruining many games.
Exactly.
How it is reported by journalists and pundits is interesting as well.
When we were awarded a penalty in the FA Cup final it seemed obligatory that every mention of it in the media had the word "soft" as an adjective.
If this recent one were a United penalty the media focus would have been on the United player "throwing himself to the floor". And I am convinced that Fernandes, or whichever United player did the Rodri prat fall, would have been described as "cheating" rather than "clever".
What nonsense.Not one single video on talkshite today about that pen and I am not surprised. If this was the other way around there would be 7 by now.
The McT foul on Tuesday was never ever a penalty.
He doesn't make any contact until the forward literally just jumps into his leg.
managing referees and the media is all part of the job for a manager as it can benefit the team when it comes to getting the decisions in our favour.. we all moan about Klopp, but he's brilliant at it, just as Fergie was. ETH seems to be getting worse at it.
Our players do this almost every game, Maguire pulling shirts, McTominay pushing people regularly in the box - it's just they are now being called out on it.
First you have to ask whether they were penalties. The best way to do this is not to look at the rules, but to look at how the rules are interpreted over the course of a season. This gives a true reflection of what is, or is not a penalty.
This would tell us that yesterday wasn't a penalty for example.
After that, you get the answer to your question.
This would tell us that yesterday wasn't a penalty for example.
After that, you get the answer to your question.
When you watch some of the ones given against us, then see ones not, off the top of my head
Romero v Spurs
Handball v Palace
Foul on Hojlund v Arsenal
It's ridiculous really.
Romero v Spurs
Handball v Palace
Foul on Hojlund v Arsenal
It's ridiculous really.
Copenhagen was never a penalty and City's was very very soft.
Also these type of VAR decisions take out the players that we either used to love in the game. Or at least loved to hate. The villains, who made the games have more story to them.
Keane, Vieira, Materazzi, Gattuso, Zlatan - you'll never see any of those players again because VAR softens the sport.
Ruined the whole spectacle of the game, I happend to watch York City last Saturday night lower league it was a good watch no VAR and the pitch was excellent, there was no theatrics in game a few moans etc but nothing you see in the prem. And VAR had helped the players behave in that way..