Glazers / Woodward out! (One down)

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Jesus. I mean, when you look at that graphic. Just, feck me.
I think influential United fans should be looking into getting the government involved on the basis of some law about threats to institutions of historical significance? Is there something like that in England? How can this be allowed?

But then again, this is right out of the Tory economic model.
 

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https://theathletic.com/3637109/2022/09/29/manchester-united-joel-glazer

Outside the office block in Washington DC that Joel Glazer uses as a command centre for Manchester United, 3,500 miles from Old Trafford, is a sign that those who oppose the club’s owners will see as strikingly apt.

“United Bank: 24 hour ATM,” it reads.

By quirk of circumstance, a namesake cash machine, open all day long, is located at the foot of the building. Standing on the pavement next to it, there is a line of sight up to the windows of the 10th floor, where Joel does his work when he’s in town.


The accusation that the Glazer family treat United as their personal cash machine is well-established by those who protest against the club’s ownership. Gary Neville makes the comparison in his book The People’s Game: A View From A Front Seat in Football. “Essentially, it’s seemingly all about taking money out,” he writes.
 

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https://theathletic.com/3637109/2022/09/29/manchester-united-joel-glazer

Outside the office block in Washington DC that Joel Glazer uses as a command centre for Manchester United, 3,500 miles from Old Trafford, is a sign that those who oppose the club’s owners will see as strikingly apt.

“United Bank: 24 hour ATM,” it reads.

By quirk of circumstance, a namesake cash machine, open all day long, is located at the foot of the building. Standing on the pavement next to it, there is a line of sight up to the windows of the 10th floor, where Joel does his work when he’s in town.


The accusation that the Glazer family treat United as their personal cash machine is well-established by those who protest against the club’s ownership. Gary Neville makes the comparison in his book The People’s Game: A View From A Front Seat in Football. “Essentially, it’s seemingly all about taking money out,” he writes.
I don't buy that. They could take a lot more. They're literally entitled to every penny we make. They're not great owners but we're pretty shit as an ATM. They could make billions profit selling us.

This narrative They're in it for a quick few quid is reviving the MUST trope of treating fans like fecking morons. Criticism needs to be around how effective they as owners not around pretending fans are fecking stupid. Alas 16+ years in and the 'fecking stupid' option is too irresistible. But we know investment is being made looking at the playing staff and overall spend in recent years. Assuming fans are a thick as goldfish has been primary reason no protest has maintained fan support for any significant period of time
 
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Probably many have forgotten this thread, the movement; but now is a good time, in fact it should go on until we see what we want. The HT humiliation today is proof enough, and come end of the year, those yanks will be happily receive the millions of quid in bonus, and dividends while we the fans will be bickering at each other the players, the coach, staff, ex players, legends and every one within united.
 
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Probably many have forgotten this thread, the movement; but now is a good time, in fact it should go on until we see what we want. The HT humiliation today is proof enough, and come end of the year, those yanks will be happily receive the millions of quid in bonus, and dividends while we the fans will be bickering at each other the players, the coach, staff, ex players, legends and every one within united.
No we’ll just keep hiring and firing managers, waste money and have no strategy whatsoever
 

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Thought was very apt when someone said these leeches are looking through window in intensive care, the running of this club is on life support and it has really cost us top managers and players.
 

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Off the pitch, the club is absolutely rotten.

wonder what their incentive is behind this, ticket touts, protestors? seem to many on that thread saying been wrongly accused aswell. Proving you were at a game is mental. if the club are being genuine then it even shows their equipment is not fit for purpose
 

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wonder what their incentive is behind this, ticket touts, protestors? seem to many on that thread saying been wrongly accused aswell. Proving you were at a game is mental. if the club are being genuine then it even shows their equipment is not fit for purpose
Money ! Seriously everything they do is in order to squeeze more money out of season ticket holders and regulars.

I know we have got bigger issues at the club but the entire ticketing department needs an overhaul. They seriously can’t do anything right, whether it’s ballots, ticket name changes, seat moves, selling your ticket etc… the list goes on and it just shows how out of touch this club has become with its fanbase.
 

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I don't buy that. They could take a lot more. They're literally entitled to every penny we make. They're not great owners but we're pretty shit as an ATM. They could make billions profit selling us.

This narrative They're in it for a quick few quid is reviving the MUST trope of treating fans like fecking morons. Criticism needs to be around how effective they as owners not around pretending fans are fecking stupid. Alas 16+ years in and the 'fecking stupid' option is too irresistible. But we know investment is being made looking at the playing staff and overall spend in recent years. Assuming fans are a thick as goldfish has been primary reason no protest has maintained fan support for any significant period of time
No the club is a business, they are not really 'entitled' to asset strip it as it would then not function and fans woudl really revolt. The bigger question is why they wont sell but then run is so appallingly badly. Chiefly by appointing a string of muppets to run the club. The amount of money wasted is insane. They also buy off protests but approving a couple of panicked signings. But this doesnt alter the lack of any coherent football structure nor the state of the stadium. Nothing changes.
 

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Yeah especially after that ridiculous valuation they made this week to scare buyers off

They haven't made any valuation. They don't need to scare buyers off. They own the club, they don't have to answer the phone.

So much of this is fuelled by people believing stuff like this that literally cannot be true. It would be totally illogical for it to be so.

If you didn't want to sell your house would you stick it on Rightmove.co.uk at 7X its real value and say "that'll show the bastards"? Or would you just.. you know... not sell your house?

Glazer talk gets insane so quickly so often as people seemingly have no filter when it comes to believing absolutely everything written by absolutely everybody.
 

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See all the Omonoia fans on Thu all holding their scarves up at same time? We could do with something similar with the green and gold. They can block what people hear but not what they see
 
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They haven't made any valuation. They don't need to scare buyers off. They own the club, they don't have to answer the phone.

So much of this is fuelled by people believing stuff like this that literally cannot be true. It would be totally illogical for it to be so.

If you didn't want to sell your house would you stick it on Rightmove.co.uk at 7X its real value and say "that'll show the bastards"? Or would you just.. you know... not sell your house?

Glazer talk gets insane so quickly so often as people seemingly have no filter when it comes to believing absolutely everything written by absolutely everybody.
Yeah painfully you are right, think it's just when you see stories about potential interest in the club you are given that hope of one day they will sell up
 

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It is a collective effort to get rid of the Glazers. We should be protesting every match and make us heard. The leeches are not selling it seems. They believe that this cow can be milked for longer. Are we expecting to see OT renovated anytime soon? No. Are we expecting to have enough budget to start catching up City and go toe to toe with them? No. If we, as fans have surrendered, then nothing can be done. Players will continute to be paid millions. We will continue to dream about CL and EPL and indulge in utterly harmful nostalgia.
 
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They haven't made any valuation. They don't need to scare buyers off. They own the club, they don't have to answer the phone.

So much of this is fuelled by people believing stuff like this that literally cannot be true. It would be totally illogical for it to be so.

If you didn't want to sell your house would you stick it on Rightmove.co.uk at 7X its real value and say "that'll show the bastards"? Or would you just.. you know... not sell your house?

Glazer talk gets insane so quickly so often as people seemingly have no filter when it comes to believing absolutely everything written by absolutely everybody.
This is an absolutely insane analogy. It just isn’t how multi billion pound acquisitions happen, none of these assets are “for sale”, they do however all have their price. What these deals need is somebody to come to the table to meet that price.

The closer analogy would be if somebody knocked on your door with a suitcase containing 7x the value of your house.

The fact of the matter is, each of the Glazers will have their own figure in mind of how much they’d sell their share for. Joel and Avram clearly will be the highest of these values, but they all absolutely will have them or at least a ball park figure. But hey, you don’t like facts like that, you just want to sound like the smartest man in the room by saying “this isn’t how it happens!” Whilst simultaneously proving that you, in fact, do not know how it happens.
 

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Good luck to all involved in the protests. Give them hell and let the parasites know how much we hate them.
Agree 100%. Look, when they or important clients go, they will hear the jeering and protests, that does help make things uncomfortable. Who wants to pay 300 quid to hear Glazer out for 90 minutes. ;)
 

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Fully support the protests.

If anyone is involved on here with the 1958, can we stop with the whole begging Jim Ratcliffe thing? We have no idea what his intentions are yet...
 

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The protests need to be in USA as well. Around their homes, around their offices, around when the Buccaneers play at home. Thats the only way they will be affected I think. Keep bad reviewing all their sponsors as well.
 

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The protests need to be in USA as well. Around their homes, around their offices, around when the Buccaneers play at home. Thats the only way they will be affected I think. Keep bad reviewing all their sponsors as well.
Yes

There must be a fair few United fans in the US. Surely they can start doing their bit.