You should do a bit more research on Morrison, it might change your opinion of him.
Greenwood (Out) - signs for Getafe on loan
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Nah, feck that. The club have lost a valuable asset through no fault of their own. The club deserves compensating for this.
Opportunist do-gooders can donate themselves if they want to support these worthy charities.
Out of interest what’s the deal with the Saudi league? I am guessing that as they are all state backed clubs, they would never get into a bidding war with each other. So it will be one Saudi club making a lowish offer rather than 2 or 3 competing for him?
So United invested all those years developing the guy, paid his wages, even now still paying them - but should not make any money from his sale - despite being pretty much forced into it? What?
Yeah, agreed unfortunately. It gives the club a year to see the reaction too which I wouldn't put beyond the board considering. That'd only work if it was a UK loan though. If he does play well the fee would be far higher in a year anyway compared to now when it's an unknown at all levels.
It's the morally right thing to do. (Don't) Think about it.
Dont see a problem with selling him but we might get a decent enough fee for him, and we should be using that to reinvest on an asset we lost.
It's not like Manchester United were endorsing his behaviour.
Nah, Greenwood will pick up where he left off after a few games. I don't think he just lost all that talent
He needs to leave Europe really, America or Saudi maybe? We could get a decent bid from one of those.
I don't think so. Both Al Ittihad and Al Ahli were fighting it out for De Paul recently. He ended up staying at Atleti.
I'm not sure how it works exactly, I think the government funds the clubs and then their managements/executives choose who to buy, I can see some being in for the same players.
Feck off.
And this is absolutely what will happen. No one will cough up the kind of fees we want for him at the moment. Football is a business and we will not let a valuable asset walk for free / peanuts.
A loan isn’t the best option, it’s probably the only option.
The way the statement has been worded, it leaves a remote possibility of him coming back as well.
Not surprised to hear that tosspot Gerrard would welcome him with open arms.
Hope the club has been in contact with the charities and will donate decent sums to them regardless of the transfer fee. Least they could do after labeling said charities hostile.
Predict he'll earn plenty for next two or three years at a lower level(Saudi) and won't return to the top level. I don't see the drive in him to get back to where his natural talent should be.
Is it really? We’ve invested around 13 years of time with this fella through it all. He’s an unconvicted man, who’s innocent by the court, the United investigations and her family has had their say in that one too.
on top of that, he has a girlfriend and a family who have moved on and approved of Mason Greenwood. I say feck The Telegraph, treat him like a normal player on his way out.
Surely that's Greenwood's job.
I think we should just tag on an extra £50 to everyone's season ticket fee for a morality surcharge, and use that to donate to any relevant charities.
United got some well deserved backlash for labeling the charities hostile, so while I agree that Greenwood should also donate, United needs to do it as well.
No we are not donating any fee. I hope the club isn't bullied into that. Not when we're struggling financially. The club has responsibilities to other stakeholders as well so we need any income we can get at this moment imho.
If someone put down 20m or more I'd accept it. Right now he is a drain on us, he's not an asset. He hasn't kicked a ball in 18months, his brand is dirt and there's no prospect of anything changing while at united.
So if someone gave us 20m, it's free money and also cutting a drain on our finances.
We need to realise this isn't 19 year wonder kid, this is 21 year old disgraced man (according to society not law)
So if someone gave us 20m, it's free money and also cutting a drain on our finances.
We need to realise this isn't 19 year wonder kid, this is 21 year old disgraced man (according to society not law)
That's unfortunate but it was a leak. Nevertheless, we are not donating all monies at all. Sorry. United can make a donation but no, they are not entitled to this. It won't make a difference anyway as everyone will still have a go at us.
Ronaldo was their marquee signing
I see no issues. Lots of companies donate large sums to charities, even without acting like cnuts beforehand.
This is also a great idea.
What happens if on September 1st he’s still a United player.
Does he play for the reserves.
What if he plays really well for the reserves and the first team is struggling in 8th by November.
Mason has two years left on his contract and the club have publicly stated he has done nothing wrong.
If he doesn’t get the move he wants then he doesn’t have to leave.
Does he play for the reserves.
What if he plays really well for the reserves and the first team is struggling in 8th by November.
Mason has two years left on his contract and the club have publicly stated he has done nothing wrong.
If he doesn’t get the move he wants then he doesn’t have to leave.
I think that United needs to do whatever the feck United sees fit to do, and not what media/mob pressures them to do. If you feel like donating, you and everyone else is free to do so.
Greenwood would be the most appropriate person to donate then.
We have to find a loan for him. I'm sure that's possible before September 1st..
We're obviously past that point
Which mob is that? I'm not from Manchester, so not sure about the state of organised crime there.
The issue is with the loan, is it puts us in the exact same scenario next summer.
In order to get a good price on a sale, you must have a credible threat of keeping the player if you don't get a satisfactory offer. We've destroyed all our leverage by announcing that he's never playing for us again, we should have started the sale process early in the summer whilst briefing that we may integrate him back into the squad if our valuation isn't met. Obviously we'd have no actual intention of ever keeping him, but it would have put us in much better negotiating position.
If we get lucky and there's multiple offers from different clubs then the bidding war may end up getting us a half decent fee, but it won't be anywhere near what he was worth 18 months ago.
At this point you just have to treat any money we get as a bonus, we were all preparing to lose him for nothing for the last 18 months.
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I am just thinking What happens to Antony now .We're obviously past that point
Not saying your wrong, but players used to be out long-term with major injuries. Van Nistelrooy was out over a year before he joined us and Shearer missed a about a year with his ACL injury. I would think physically he will be alright, but there has to be some mental impact of all this on him, so perhaps you're right.
we’re currently paying his salary so nothing changes in terms of optics - most people’s issue seemed to be they just didn’t want him lining up for United again - and his statement as well as the club’s comma seems to have put that to bed. If you read the threads on the topic you’ll see that “he should restart his career elsewhere” is a fairly regular reply. I don’t think us paying his wages moves the needle, as previously said we’re doing that now.
My guess exactly.
Especially if you put him in a weak Saudi league.
He's easily a top 10 player there.
This doesn’t even make sense. That was an internal re-intergration model/plan - that labelled which institutions and journos would be receptive or against his return/where they would land. How does that translate to United has to donate? What the feck
Any credible rumours as to who might be interested in taking him?
Wishful thinking on your part?
There is categorically no way he even trains with United again, let alone plays after the statement yesterday. It would kick up a really shitstorm if it was even mooted.
He’s done here, and that’s for the best.
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Apparently we've already received around 10 offers. Whether these offers are loans or permanent transfers remain to be seen.
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