I was going off that article in the op that said it contained 120 flats.I think there are more units than that. Someone on the Beep said that there are 10-12 units per floor.
I was going off that article in the op that said it contained 120 flats.I think there are more units than that. Someone on the Beep said that there are 10-12 units per floor.
Surprised they've lasted so long, honestly... Saddening stuff.Multiple eyewitnesses report residents have begun jumping from high windows.
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It was about 20 years ago, fire started downstairs and they were all found huddled in a bedroom, yes no smoke detectors.
We should really be in a day and age where if someone jumps - there should be something for them to land on to save lives. It might not be perfect but give them hope and get people out quicker. The last thing people want to do is jump and I think with so many tall buildings, this should be addressed. Climbing down a big ladder? Not a great option. Jumping? No. There needs to be innovation. Some sort of giant airbag or something. There is no point building higher and higher if safety is not being considered.Those responsible should be locked up and throw away the key.Multiple eyewitnesses report residents have begun jumping from high windows.
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watching Sky news this is gut wrenching, people trying to contact friends and seeing people on the top floor.
The building is still well on fire, sadly I cant see this ending without fatalities.
I have a feeling this is going to be bad , hope I am wrong.Steeling myself for the terrible news.
Looks that way. Hard to believe it could happen in the UK in this day and age. Touch of complacency creeping in it seems.I have a feeling this is going to be bad , hope I am wrong.
Cheap chinese aluminium cladding used to 'dress up' the building, likely a product called Alucobest, there was a fire a few years ago in australia (lacrosse fire) where it contributed to the spread of the fire quicklypeople are making a big thing about a cladding put round the building in the past couple of years, if that is found to be the cause of the fire spreading so fast, the ones that installed it are in a whole load of trouble.
You reach something approaching terminal velocity rather quickly. Even water 'turns into concrete' at height.We should really be in a day and age where if someone jumps - there should be something for them to land on to save lives. It might not be perfect but give them hope and get people out quicker. The last thing people want to do is jump and I think with so many tall buildings, this should be addressed. Climbing down a big ladder? Not a great option. Jumping? No. There needs to be innovation. Some sort of giant airbag or something. There is no point building higher and higher if safety is not being considered.Those responsible should be locked up and throw away the key.
A building like that and no fire systems !! The is criminal.Cheap chinese aluminium cladding used to 'dress up' the building, likely a product called Alucobest, there was a fire a few years ago in australia (lacrosse fire) where it contributed to the spread of the fire quickly
Been reading a few bits about a grenfell action group saying the building was dangerous and a disaster waiting to happen, they had been told to stay in their homes if there was a fire, but apparently the building has no sprinklers or integrated alarm system
Huge tragedy i hope im wrong but im expecting huge numbers of casualties/fatalities
We've had them for over 200 years, just google Ingstrom escape chute, basically a large sock like slide that you can hang out from the side of a building and slide multiple people down at the same time as the fabric squeezes them slowing their rate of descent. I've only ever seen them in theory though and have only heard of them actually being used in Japan.We should really be in a day and age where if someone jumps - there should be something for them to land on to save lives. It might not be perfect but give them hope and get people out quicker. The last thing people want to do is jump and I think with so many tall buildings, this should be addressed. Climbing down a big ladder? Not a great option. Jumping? No. There needs to be innovation. Some sort of giant airbag or something. There is no point building higher and higher if safety is not being considered.Those responsible should be locked up and throw away the key.
Yeah. The question now is simply how many...No central fire alarm in a building this high and a fire spreading at that rate... Sadly there were always going to be fatalities.
That is depressingly accurate. Hopefully they get some serious jailtime.
Hopefully the blog will now be used in evidence.
I can't comprehend how this would possible, looking at the extent of the fire. But if these people were able to survive this way, there's at least hope for others as well.Estate resident Ahmed Chellat, who spoke to Alice earlier, has been told that his relatives are safe after they were told to stay in their 21st storey flat with wet towels under the doors.
His sister, brother-in-law, and their two children were advised to stay in the flat and that help was on its way. He told ITV they were safe.
Provided the windows were closed and don't break there should not really be a route for the fire to enter individual apartments if it really is a cladding fire. Smoke is another matter though so it sounds like the message worked, hopefully there are more like them.From The Guardian:
I can't comprehend how this would possible, looking at the extent of the fire. But if these people were able to survive this way, there's at least hope for others as well.
There appeared to be one section of the building that was not engulfed in flames but still hard to believe they escaped the smoke. Thankfully some were fortunate, hope there are others.From The Guardian:
I can't comprehend how this would possible, looking at the extent of the fire. But if these people were able to survive this way, there's at least hope for others as well.
Don't think that is right. He said they're unaccounted for.From The Guardian:
I can't comprehend how this would possible, looking at the extent of the fire. But if these people were able to survive this way, there's at least hope for others as well.