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I'd only consider buying one if it is like @crossy1686 's example, a real once in a lifetime (maybe) commemorative feel. Other than that, I think they're a bit small time. But, then, I'm not coming from the other side of the world, where United v Norwich for example is likely the only game I'll ever see. Bitching about people doing that is a bit odd.
 

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My cousin posted about this on FB, said he was delighted they banned them, if he sees any OOT'ers wearing them he'll sort them out etc. But he's a wanna be gangsta scumbag from Levenshulme. The only type of people I see truly get up in arms about something so trivial. Just looking for a reason to start trouble me thinks.
 

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I wouldn't wear one. I think they're laughable, but I wouldn't ban them. That's going a bit too far but if the landlord wants to do so, what's to stop him? He's just turning away trade.
 

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It's just a fecking scarf. People need to get over themselves.
 

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Manchester United pub Sam Platts bans half-and-half scarves worn by 'tourist fans'

Half-and-half scarves have been banned from an iconic pub in the shadows of Old Trafford.

The special scarves feature United and whoever they are playing in that particular match. Often snapped up by 'tourist fans,' many supporters see them as a symbol of the soulless commercialisation of football.

But now the pub Sam Platts, on Trafford Wharf, has banned the souvenirs. The popular boozer is now refusing entry to supporters who turn up wearing the scarves ahead ofManchester United home games.

Visitors have been told not to wear them in the past due to the adverse of some of diehard fans and regulars - which have included burning the scarves. But now Platts has become a half-and-half scarf-free zone.

One regular United matchgoer said: "The half-and-half epidemic is down to the swag sellers looking to make a few quid.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ws/manchester-united-pub-sam-platts-10178616?
Getting offended by something so trivial..symptoms of deeper underlying issues..
 

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Visitors have been told not to wear them in the past due to the adverse of some of diehard fans and regulars - which have included burning the scarves
Sounds like the "diehard" fans are a bunch of animals. It's a scarf!

I don't see the outrage over them, not just this pub banning them, but the general opinion over them. Don't want one? Don't buy one. Some fans may only get to go to Old Trafford two or three times a year, if that. For some, it might be a once in a lifetime trip. If they want to commemorate the game(s) they've attended by getting a half n half, then let them.

I wouldn't get one though, but I don't own any United clobber. Not even a shirt.
 

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It's just a fecking scarf. People need to get over themselves.
After the City match at OT where they beat us 6-1 some guy almost battered some kid (19ish) because he was wearing a half and half scarf. There were a lot of angry people around that day though.
 

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To be fair to the people who bought scarfs outside Old Trafford, don't those sellers only sell half and half scarfs? It's not like they have an array of scarfs you can chose from. I'm sure most people when presented with the opportunity would chose a United scarf over a half and half scarf.
 

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To be fair to the people who bought scarfs outside Old Trafford, don't those sellers only sell half and half scarfs? It's not like they have an array of scarfs you can chose from. I'm sure most people when presented with the opportunity would chose a United scarf over a half and half scarf.
There's plenty. individual players scarves, just United scarves and half and half.
 

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Let people buy whatever the feck they want it's a scarf.
 

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The fact is that it doesn't reflect that you're the type of fan who is going to create an atmosphere and join in with the songs. It suggests you're someone here for a one off game.

Fair enough, get one then, but don't be surprised when stuff like this happens.
 

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Well, the pub thing is just silly.

But I don't sympathize much with half-and-half wearers. I get the idea that people want keepsakes or whatever the case may be, but you don't have to actually wear the thing. Buy it, stick it in a bag, mount it on the wall when you come home.

And the product itself is daft. You'd see the things before too, but usually in connection either with actual events (cup finals and such) or friendlies - you didn't see loads of people roaming about wearing United/Bournemouth scarves in connection with a bog standard league match.
 

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Back in my match going days I used to buy a paper magazine called a programme to commemorate my day.
 

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There's plenty of other mementos. I've got about 500 programmes in my house doing feck all.
Mine rarely made it home. Either it fell out my back pocket at the game at was left under my seat or I left it in the bar afterwards.

I ran into Denis Law before a CL game a while back, got his autograph on my programme only to lose it before I'd even got to my seat.
 

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:lol: Scarf ban the world has gone fecking mad.

Don't really understand why someone would want or wear a half and half scarf.

But find it even more baffling why some people (like my cousin) get so worked up over them.

It's only a scarf, get a fecking life.
 

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I love how some say "i would only buy one if" or "i only have one because" then slate off any other condition of owning one. :lol: had no clue these scarfs were so taboo.
 

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The fact is that it doesn't reflect that you're the type of fan who is going to create an atmosphere and join in with the songs. It suggests you're someone here for a one off game.
Not sure what is wrong with going for a one off game. Not everyone has the privilege of going every week. Perhaps the question of atmosphere shouldn't be "How do we get rid of the poxy daytrippers?" but rather "What can the regulars do to help the others contribute to the atmosphere?"
 

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The fact is that it doesn't reflect that you're the type of fan who is going to create an atmosphere and join in with the songs. It suggests you're someone here for a one off game.

Fair enough, get one then, but don't be surprised when stuff like this happens.
What? Why can't they be surprised when they decide to stroll into a pub and are told they can't enter because of the scarf around their neck?

So people who come to OT for a one off game have no right to go to a pub? These people are usually casual fans buying a scarf as a memento for that one time they went to OT. They have no clue how much their decision to buy one offends some people. They probably just see one on the way to the stadium and buy it on a whim. Blame the idiots who actually make these things.
 

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The fact is that it doesn't reflect that you're the type of fan who is going to create an atmosphere and join in with the songs. It suggests you're someone here for a one off game.

Fair enough, get one then, but don't be surprised when stuff like this happens.
Don't be surprised by some knobhead burning a scarf cos an object offends him that much? Okay.
 

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Haven't been in there for a while but I really wouldn't want to walk into a tent full of pissed up reds wearing a half and half.

Got a bit heated at Stamford Bridge last season, couple of guys from Sweden had to ditch their scarfs to avoid a kicking. Some people are genuinely offended by them.
 

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What? Why can't they be surprised when they decide to stroll into a pub and are told they can't enter because of the scarf around their neck?

So people who come to OT for a one off game have no right to go to a pub? These people are usually casual fans buying a scarf as a memento for that one time they went to OT. They have no clue how much their decision to buy one offends some people. They probably just see one on the way to the stadium and buy it on a whim. Blame the idiots who actually make these things.
You do realise there's dozens of pubs?

If I went to a new place I would look up what is seenas publicly acceptable. It's like those British people who got done for taking selfies at holy places abroad, something's will upset the locals so do some research of suffer the consequences.
 

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Not sure what is wrong with going for a one off game. Not everyone has the privilege of going every week. Perhaps the question of atmosphere shouldn't be "How do we get rid of the poxy daytrippers?" but rather "What can the regulars do to help the others contribute to the atmosphere?"
Yeah the regulars can do away with some less traditional aspects of the game like wearing half and half scarves or taking ipads
 

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What? Why can't they be surprised when they decide to stroll into a pub and are told they can't enter because of the scarf around their neck?

So people who come to OT for a one off game have no right to go to a pub? These people are usually casual fans buying a scarf as a memento for that one time they went to OT. They have no clue how much their decision to buy one offends some people. They probably just see one on the way to the stadium and buy it on a whim. Blame the idiots who actually make these things.
The poor lads from Sweden had no idea WTF was going on.
 

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Those saying "it's just a scarf" wouldn't be saying the same thing if a Liverpool fan walked in with a Liverpool scarf and got some shit.
 

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Gives me a mind to cobble together a half and half shirt for sh*t and giggles, maybe even wear a third teams shorts to top it off.
I draw the line at half and half socks though, you'd have to be a right tosser for that...
Kind of sad that a pub would pander to such an irascible bunch but I imagine those reacting badly to such things must be part of the regular crowd and it therefore makes greater financial sense to side with them. Quite why it would piss someone off so much is beyond my comprehension.
 

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Those saying "it's just a scarf" wouldn't be saying the same thing if a Liverpool fan walked in with a Liverpool scarf and got some shit.
Actually I would, in addition to my just a scarf comment I will add it's just a game. Kicking people due to their allegiance to a side is beyond stupid.
 

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The poor lads from Sweden had no idea WTF was going on.
:lol:

That's the problem really. It's not easy for OOTs to find out just how offended people get by them. I mean how would they know? Who in their right mind would even think to check with anyone before buying a piece of clothing being sold outside the stadium.
 

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Only scarf I ever bought was when United came over here this preseason to play Barca. Never got he chance to watch United when I lived there, so only get the odd chance when they're here.

Not sure if that annoys all these amazing super fans we have, but feck 'em if so :)
 

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If I went to a new place I would look up what is seenas publicly acceptable. It's like those British people who got done for taking selfies at holy places abroad, something's will upset the locals so do some research of suffer the consequences.
Next time I go to a sporting event I'll be sure to find a bunch of die hards and check with them before buying anything being sold over there.
 

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I am Mancunian born and bred. My son attends all home matches with me as I did with my Dad when I was a kid.
My son has lots half half scarves and we dont care if people think we are tourist fans or not. I have been going to matches every week almost for over 30 years.
Its a scarf. Get angry at the way we play or a bad result, not about what the person next to you is wearing.