We have been involved early but allegedly considered that the price asked by Spurs was too rich. If they are asking 120m+ from Spurs, I don't even want to know what Levy asked from United.
Also won a PL title early in his career.
Lots of people thought they had a chance in the champions league last season. They breezed out of a group which included eventual finalists inter and eventual La Liga champions Barcelona and through to the quarter finals by beating PSG by conceding just 2 goals (in one game, against none of the clubs I've just mentioned).
Gallagher i dont think really improves them, but Orban is a good roll of the dice- they're not replacing Kane directly, of course, and strikers in the bigger leagues are heavily overpriced; between him and the south american, one of their new strikers is likely to 'work out' to some extent...and if not, then Richarlison in his Brazilian position just might..
I didn't mean Bayern had less chance than all of those teams but the idea of them being 2nd most likely seems strange to me. Barcelona won the league ahead of Real so they should have a strong chance at winning the CL.
In the last five years:
Whenever I looked at CL predictions last year they were always City, Real, Liverpool or a few dreamers went with Napoli. The first 3 were comfortably ahead of Bayern and even PSG would probably have been considered more likely (the lack of belief in them seemed to stem moreso from their tendency to bottle the CL in the past instead of ther actual ability). Granted adding Kane does immediately make Bayern a much stronger team than last season so it's maybe a bit more realistic this year.
1st one has to be Liverpool because they were in 2 finals and Bayern only won 1 CL in recent years. Does that prove Bayern were better because they got to QF 2 more times than Liverpool? Admittedly I didn't realise Pool got knocked out in R16 twice but still, they were in 2 finals
Yeah, the "no value in the market" Fergie. People are rewriting history.
My point is that "regularly outperformed" is a massive stretch. Their results are overall comparable. And that's comparing with Klopp's Liverpool, a team that reached heights in this period that neither the current Arsenal nor the current United side reached. Bayern have a stronger squad than any English club bar City and a better recent history in the competition than three out of the four participating English clubs.
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Yeah, according to the BBC the deal for Bayern is £86.4 million, and we must surely have known way back then that it would take a bid of around £100 million for us to sign him, so I'm amazed we haven't gone in with £100 million bid now (on the assumption that Kane would prefer to come to us than Bayern, which obviously may not be the case) to test Levy's resolve.
You don't know how much we offered and how much Levy may have suggested. The only thing that we know is that United did get involved and that we decided to target someone else. The likely scenario is that Levy did what he did with Modric and Bale, he asked for significantly more from United/Chelsea than he was willing to accept from Real Madrid or in this case Bayern.
Liverpool's better obviously, 2 finals compared to one.
Not sure what point you are making? Are you saying that Fergie didn't ever break the bank to get top players in? He spent £30.75 million on Berbatov from Spurs 15 years ago, and he was half the player that Kane is.
He was willing to break records, particularly for strikers.
Yes, I understand this, but there is a difference between quoting us a price in June, when everything was up in the air, to testing his resolve now when he has accepted £86.4 million from Bayern, 2 days before the season starts. An extra £15 million could mean an additional player for Postecoglou, or the difference between a top tier player or a second tier player. I'm not for one minute saying that Levy would cave and sell to us, I'm just surprised we haven't tested that.
BBC missing the add ons there. It's £86.4 million plus another £17 million in add ons going by the latest tweets (€100m + €20m), so already over £100m. Seems beyond what we could afford to throw at them at the moment
Are we not currently waiting to sell McTominay and Maguire before we can sign much needed cover in defence and midfield for a combined price of nearly half of what Kane would cost?
Personally I would prefer to sign Kane and take the risk with the defensive and midfield cover.
what are the add-ons? They might never be achieved.
Hopefully Kane can score 4 when Jonny Evans and Eriksen get run over at the Etihad.
It doesn't matter what the addons are, the price for Bayern is already very high and there is zero reason to believe that Levy would sell for a similar price to a PL side, he hasn't done that in more than a decade.
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Well look, we are talking about a hypothetical situation here, so I might as well say I hope a back up midfielder and centre-half can score 4 when we're relying on a crocked Tony Martial at the Etihad. Maguire was a liability last season and rarely trusted, so I'd be comfortable with Jonny Evans and/or Luke Shaw covering with Malacia at left-back. Similarly I'd happily see Mainoo playing more if needed, Eriksen had to be rushed back into the side before he was ready last year, but with the Mount signing that shouldn't be so much of an issue.
If Bayern didn’t give in to Levy’s demands, Levy would be in a difficult position come deadline day.
Well it does matter a bit. For instance if there is a clause that said something like an extra £10 million to Spurs if Bayern win the CL then I'm sure Bayern would be very happy to pay it, same as United would be. I've been quite clear that I'm not suggesting that Levy would sell to us for a similar price, I literally said £15 million more, and that could be plus the same kind of add ons agreed with Bayern.
Or he would be perfectly fine when Kane once again extends his contract. This is speculative but I'm pretty sure that Kane has been part of the issue, I wouldn't be surprised if he agreed on a short extension in September if none of the clubs he wants to join made an offer that suits Spurs.
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Doesn’t exactly scream “never going to happen” to me.
You are assuming that both agreements would be in the same ballpark when it's perfectly possible that Bayern total price is 120m while english clubs total price is 160m.
Yes, and you are assuming that the price would be wildly different! Businessmen like money at the end of the day, and even for a guy as rich as Joe Lewis £15 million is not pocket change.
I'm basing it on Levy past tendencies and gave you examples. Levy took less from Madrid than Chelsea, City and United allegedly offered, nearly a third less.
I mean it was never going to happen that we were going to bid over the last few weeks, I imagine we did want Kane at the start but as soon as our attention shifted to Hojlund that was it.the feck you are on about
