If he actually gets his mind to it, yes.Stick a fit again Pogba in at the top of the midfield behind them and we’ll actually have a good team. Fred, McTommy and Pogba should actually be a good unit.
It was Greenwood for James the other day so I think it's more about the qualities they offer blending rather than the specific players.when was the last time we had this? Seems like forever.
It’s very early days but Martial, Rashford and James are starting to look like a combination that could work really well for us.
To be fair I think you could’ve put Pogba in that team today and absolutely nothing would’ve changed. We seemed to transition quickly and attack with speed, I’m not sure how he’d have improved us.Stick a fit again Pogba in at the top of the midfield behind them and we’ll actually have a good team. Fred, McTommy and Pogba should actually be a good unit.
Only because it was the Europa though. But yeah it’s great to have options.It was Greenwood for James the other day so I think it's more about the qualities they offer blending rather than the specific players.
Are you implying Pereira is anywhere near as good a player?To be fair I think you could’ve put Pogba in that team today and absolutely nothing would’ve changed. We seemed to transition quickly and attack with speed, I’m not sure how he’d have improved us.
He's far better up the front. Sitting deep is killing him to be honest. He's intelligent in attacking and has a good shot on him.This might be a dumb question, but is Pogba actually good playing that high up the pitch (#10) or is he more comfortable sitting a bit deeper?
I've moaned a lot about the 4231, but it has looked a lot better with Martial back.
Let's not get carried away, just beat Partizan and Brighton at home. The idea that we are an all-conquering team that can't be tinkered with is ridiculous, Pogba is clearly a few levels above the current midfielders.If he actually gets his mind to it, yes.
If we get some lazy version of Pogba, it might ruin our good form instead.
I am not the one who is getting away here. People who think Pogba would improve the team right away might be.Let's not get carried away, just beat Partizan and Brighton at home. The idea that we are an all-conquering team that can't be tinkered with is ridiculous, Pogba is clearly a few levels above the current midfielders.
Of course not. But I don’t think the game missed Pogba, that’s all I’m saying. I doubt if he’d played today we’d have won 5-1 for instance.Are you implying Pereira is anywhere near as good a player?
Not sure how ‘absolutely nothing would have changed’ as it’s completely unprovable. It’s also highly unlikely that a real world class player wouldn’t have a greater impact than a back up player who’s never gotten close to Pogba’s performance levels.
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I say play a 433 with Pogba the more advanced midfield from the left. Initial worries to play that was because of lack of midfield players but now with Fred fin ally coming into his own(well if he keeps improving or at least maintain what he's shown today) then a 433 is once again possible.This might be a dumb question, but is Pogba actually good playing that high up the pitch (#10) or is he more comfortable sitting a bit deeper?
I've moaned a lot about the 4231, but it has looked a lot better with Martial back.
Definitely further forward, like he did with Juventus. He can beat a man, bang a shot and pick assists. Essentially get him to play more like De Bruyne. The only worry is that he doesn't work as hard as Perreira, but a good coach should drill the work ethic in to him.This might be a dumb question, but is Pogba actually good playing that high up the pitch (#10) or is he more comfortable sitting a bit deeper?
I've moaned a lot about the 4231, but it has looked a lot better with Martial back.
I don't think he's ideal for it as he's not a particularly agile, quick pass and move type, we'd also lose Pereira's work rate and pressing. However he has far more quality on the ball. I'd rather lose what Pereira brings to the table rather than Fred who despite his lack of quality on the ball offers something with his high workrate off it.This might be a dumb question, but is Pogba actually good playing that high up the pitch (#10) or is he more comfortable sitting a bit deeper?
I've moaned a lot about the 4231, but it has looked a lot better with Martial back.
He looks like he can actually cross it, so suits the right a lot more than Rashford who can't really.Yeah and I am glad James is looking settled on the right, people initially thought he couldn't do it but he looks fine.
The further in we go, the MORE they'll play, as the league isn't far off a write off in terms of top 4.Now that we have qualified for the round of 32 and face colchester at home I hope to not see them start any cup games. Come off the bench if necessary
True. Fred and McTominay consistently playing together has been a boon for us. Fred has started 8 of the last 9 matches (rested in Belgrade) and of course the result is him looking a lot better. Compare that to last season where he was on the pitch sporadically throughout the season playing only 33% of the total minutes.The whole game is about stability, and it’s not just the front three. Look at midfield; Fred and McT have played most of the last 8-10 matches, lo-and-behold they get better.
This settled 6-8 (AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, McT, Fred, Rashford, Martial, James) is what United need, a settled, stable core.
This post cannot be stressed enough and this is a problem we’ve had for years for one reason or another to get a settled sideThe whole game is about stability, and it’s not just the front three. Look at midfield; Fred and McT have played most of the last 8-10 matches, lo-and-behold they get better.
This settled 6-8 (AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, McT, Fred, Rashford, Martial, James) is what United need, a settled, stable core.
I’m not sure Lindelof deserves to be part of that stable core, he is our weak link. I would rather we had Tuanzabee or even Rojo (!) instead of him as part of the stable core. Even today, we had some set plays against us where our defense looked weak, and on another day or another team they would take those easy chances.The whole game is about stability, and it’s not just the front three. Look at midfield; Fred and McT have played most of the last 8-10 matches, lo-and-behold they get better.
This settled 7-9 (DDG, AWB, Maguire, Lindelof, McT, Fred, Rashford, Martial, James) is what United need, a settled, stable core.
I appreciate that, and believe it myself, but the fact is they’re better for having played together consistently.I’m not sure Lindelof deserves to be part of that stable core, he is our weak link. I would rather we had Tuanzabee or even Rojo (!) instead of him as part of the stable core. Even today, we had some set plays against us where our defense looked weak, and on another day or another team they would take those easy chances.
Those paces and runs that Pogba had against Chelsea in the second half, I can't see too many in our team doing that.To be fair I think you could’ve put Pogba in that team today and absolutely nothing would’ve changed. We seemed to transition quickly and attack with speed, I’m not sure how he’d have improved us.
Maybe not, but I don't think we missed him. What does he normally contribute on a good day? Bringing the ball out of midfield, through balls, turning defence into attack quickly and countering with speed. We managed all of that fairly well. I'm not saying he shouldn't win his place back, he's still one of our best players. I just don't think he would've added anything drastically new to what we saw earlier is all.Those paces and runs that Pogba had against Chelsea in the second half, I can't see too many in our team doing that.
These are the games that we have been struggling at. If we could beat teams like Brighton regularly we would be in the hunt for the title right now considering our record against the top 6 is 2 wins (Chelsea and Leicester) and 2 ties (Arsenal and Liverpool)...Let's not get carried away, just beat Partizan and Brighton at home. The idea that we are an all-conquering team that can't be tinkered with is ridiculous, Pogba is clearly a few levels above the current midfielders.
He has actually been generally bad in that role, he is good when he has the game in front of him and can run forward not when he starts high.He's far better up the front. Sitting deep is killing him to be honest. He's intelligent in attacking and has a good shot on him.
Not quite, it's more the teams that sit and park the bus we struggle against. We've got a good run were we don't play many teams like that until the end of the year now.These are the games that we have been struggling at. If we could beat teams like Brighton regularly we would be in the hunt for the title right now considering our record against the top 6 is 2 wins (Chelsea and Leicester) and 2 ties (Arsenal and Liverpool)...
Rojo is many things, stable is not one of them!I’m not sure Lindelof deserves to be part of that stable core, he is our weak link. I would rather we had Tuanzabee or even Rojo (!) instead of him as part of the stable core. Even today, we had some set plays against us where our defense looked weak, and on another day or another team they would take those easy chances.
That's the key here.Just hope we avoid injuries now. They all have a good connection with one another, especially Rashford and Martial when they operate centrally together.
Yep. Pogba is at his best when he can pretty much do whatever he wants. That's why he's tended to be at his best in a three man midfield where the other two midfielders play the more structured roles. He can sit deep and control the team around when he wants but he also has the freedom to charge up field and take more risks knowing that he's got two others covering for him.He has actually been generally bad in that role, he is good when he has the game in front of him and can run forward not when he starts high.