It's exactly what Fergie said in that video, it was a bit of fun, but it got to the point where it wasn't and had become problem when it came to balancing personalities. Especially when he had all these young lads coming through, he wanted them to look up to the senior players and someone who went around with a self imposed title was someone to be looking up to.He was big mates with Giggs so maybe there was issues going on there that we're nor privvy to.
Guvnor was just a bit of fun, bit childish getting bent out of shape over that tbh.
Ince would be someone to look up to. If he talked the talk it was only because be could back it up on the pitch.It's exactly what Fergie said in that video, it was a bit of fun, but it got to the point where it wasn't and had become problem when it came to balancing personalities. Especially when he had all these young lads coming through, he wanted them to look up to the senior players and someone who went around with a self imposed title was someone to be looking up to.
Even that was starting to be questioned, it was also said he wasn't being disciplined enough tactically and didn't work hard enough getting back. There were lots of other factors too, you also had Nicky Butt coming through, there was a new training ground to be paid for etc. He apparently already had talks with Inter and already told people he was heading to Italy.Ince would be someone to look up to. If he talked the talk it was only because be could back it up on the pitch.
It wasn’t. It was something Fergie said to justify selling him, which I’ve no issue with. He was the boss but there were no issues with Inces performances before he was sold. He was outstanding.Even that was starting to be questioned, it was also said he wasn't being disciplined enough tactically and didn't work hard enough getting back. There were lots of other factors too, you also had Nicky Butt coming through, there was a new training ground to be paid for etc. He apparently already had talks with Inter and already told people he was heading to Italy.
Maybe the whole guvnor thing was just an excuse, but SAF generally made the right decisions around the squad balance. He got this one right too.
100%.Ince and Carrick were totally different players. Ince was a dynamic box-to-box midfielder and had serious pace, especially in his time at West Ham and Old Trafford. In my opinion, his best football was undoubtedly in the first half of his career.
Carrick was a DM who relied not so much on pace as on his reading of the game and positional discipline. People don't really respect Carrick because he did not put in thunderous tackles, create many goals, or score much. However, he screened the back four so well that people didn't really notice it. In terms of footballing intelligence, Carrick was an exceptional player and totally underappreciated in my opinion.
Both of them great United players but Carrick just slightly better for how influential he was defensively.
Ince was one of Fergies best buys and a great player for us.I was more gutted when we sold him than any of the rest, Hughes Kanchelskis or Sharpe. He was class and himself and Keane could have dominated English football. I followed him at Inter as much as possible even though I was quite young. Fergie felt like he was leading Giggs astray or so I’ve read somehweee and he chose giggs. Not a bad choice in hindsight from a purely football perspective. Neither seem like good guys.
Yes that’s what he said, which actually is ridiculous because Keane was far more suited to that role than Ince.i think i read at the time one of the problems SAF had with ince was he wanted to sit and play more defensive and let keane push on and ince saw himself more attacking so they clashed.
Agree with this. Also a top performer for his country too, the play off game in Italy being a highlight and for me only Andreas Moller was ahead of him for player of the tournament at Euro 96.ince and carrick are different players. but for me ince was a much better player.
Ince became a little less respected (similar to kanchelskis) because they were culled to make way for the class of 92. and it can be argued were replaced by (soon to be) superior players in Beckham and Scholes.
and i would agree, i would only have keane, scholes and robson definately ahead of him.
Keane was good at it when he first joined usYes that’s what he said, which actually is ridiculous because Keane was far more suited to that role than Ince.
He was, what a pair of midfielders. While Ince was here though it felt like Keane was the more reserved. I’ve nothing against SAF making the decision he made, I just feel that he threw Ince under the bus with comments that didn’t meet the eye test.Keane was good at it when he first joined us
Couldn’t agree more. What a midfield that was!!I honestly think that the midfield we had between 1993 and 1995 with Keane and Ince and then Kanchelskis and Giggs on the wings was as good as we’ve ever had at the club, that first double winning team was only behind AC Milan in that period for me and if it wasn’t for that fecking 3 foreigner rule that included Scottish and Welsh as well as Irish I think we’d have won a Champions League in that time.
There’s no doubt that Ince is underrated and to be honest is known more these days for being famously sold to Inter to make way for the ‘Class Of 92’ and being a cnut in celebrating scoring for the bin dippers against us but Ince made it easier to cope with no Robson a lot of the time and was a great player in his own right, a proper box to box with ball winning abilities that led and was always good for a goal.
Can't really agree with that. I feel people judge Carrick on his last few years under Fergie and start of the Moyes/Van Gaal era where he was fantastic, especially in the 2012/2013 season.100%.
Carrick was key to our success for 10 years.
One of the best in the world in his position.
People were raving about Casemiro last year, Carrick was a much better player. Almost never made a mistake or gave the ball away.
Ince was great too but very different players. It's like comparing Busquets to Gerrard.
If you watch Lee Sharpe's famous goal against Barca, Ince was instrumental in setting it up.
