How United can knock Liverpool off their perch (again) .. according to a Scouser

[Raees]

So according to my Liverpool supporting mate... we are barking up the wrong path with a Sancho as he isn't all that different from Mason, Marcus and Martial in terms of age and thus he can't give us that match-winning experience which our frontline sorely needs to convert dominance into consistent results when the chips are down.

Also thinks we could do with a elite CDM, Ben Chilwell as a left back upgrade to Shaw and is adamant we need to hold on to Pogba and De Gea... and just need to find a way to reignite their fires for a title push.

Doesn't rate our CB options and thinks Maguire is a potential top class player but needs a partner who can bring him to the next level.

Agreed with most of the points but personally do not think we can afford to miss out on a talent like Sancho and disagreed with him on some of the player options discussed for transfers.

Anyway if you're bored, give it a watch and do you agree with his sentiments?

 

[TrustInOle]

Knock them of their perch? Ain't we still on it?

 

[jymufc20]

1 league win in 30 years doesn't qualify as being back on their perch in my eyes, the feckin idiots.

 

[charlenefan]

We definitely need Sancho
We definitely don't need Chilwell
Agree with the other points

 

[Siorac]

our frontline sorely needs to convert dominance into consistent results

What dominance? I wouldn't say failing to convert dominance into results is one of our main problems.

Also, feck spending 21 minutes with listening to a Liverpool fan.

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

Knock them of their perch? Ain't we still on it?

Not hard to knock anyone off the shit at maths perch.

 

[Infestissumam]

I like Chilwell, but feel he's one of the most overrated players in the league. We're fine at LB, Shaw is a lot better than many people give him credit for.

 

[TrustInOle]

Not hard to knock anyone off the shit at maths perch.

True. they ain't half a delusional lot.

 

[wolvored]

If they get to 21 titles before us then they have knocked us off our perch. It is squeaky bum time though.

 

[TrustInOle]

If they get to 21 titles before us then they have knocked us off our perch. It is squeaky bum time though.

I can garuntee they won't win two more titles before we get back on top.

You know what, I'm going to see what odds I can get for that.

 

[TheNewEra]

Sancho yes, agreed on De Gea and Pogba, Chilwell no.

Liverpool aren't on their perch at all, they have a very good team that has 3 years left before they need to transition.

Get a good group of players playing in their prime they will perform well.

The reason Liverpool did well is all top teams are rebuilding, Man City had injuries.

Liverpool are hardly dominant. Klopp will leave in 4 years.

 

[Strelok]

1 league win in 30 years doesn't qualify as being back on their perch in my eyes, the feckin idiots.

This, perch my a**

On a serious thought, we'll knock them off in two years. I smoked w*** again.

 

[Raees]

What dominance? I wouldn't say failing to convert dominance into results is one of our main problems.

Also, feck spending 21 minutes with listening to a Liverpool fan.

I do question my friendship choices.

 

[romufc]

Liverpool are hardly dominant. Klopp will leave in 4 years.

4 years is a very long time. They have players in their prime.

Salah, Mane and Firminho all have 2/3 season in them

VVD, Trent, Gomes, Allison, Robbo, Fabinho all probably have 6/7 years in them.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Chilwell is another potential landmine. Best let City step on it.

 

[Strelok]

4 years is a very long time. They have players in their prime.

Salah, Mane and Firminho all have 2/3 season in them

VVD, Trent, Gomes, Allison, Robbo, Fabinho all probably have 6/7 years in them.

VVD is 29 yo mate. And imo his style needs good pace.

 

[groovyalbert]

I remember my Liverpool supporting mate in January being convinced that they'd be getting Sancho.

So I can see why they may not want us to make a move for him this window.

 

[TheNewEra]

4 years is a very long time. They have players in their prime.

Salah, Mane and Firminho all have 2/3 season in them

VVD, Trent, Gomes, Allison, Robbo, Fabinho all probably have 6/7 years in them.

4 years is a long time, but realistically teams don't win 4 years in a row.

You also have players who aren't loyal to one club now, it's not just having the players but its keeping them hungry.

Who is to say at some stage Fabinho, VVD, Allison won't at some point say 'well I've won the league now and Barcelona/Real Madrid want me now, which wasn't possible before I hit this level, I fancy a change and I want to win La Liga'.

Let's face it, how many youngsters grow up wanting to play for Liverpool (especially South Americans)? it's hardly the team that South Americans grow up dreaming of playing for, it's Barca/Real Madrid.

Being really nice to Liverpool now, they haven't won the league in 30 years before this year, all of these players weren't even born then. When you see players like Zidane at Madrid, R9, the great Milan sides, that's what those players grew up watching.

The reason all these players are at Liverpool is at the time they were very good players, but they weren't at the level they are now.

It's one thing to have a team but to keep them competing each year, and to keep them hungry is something else. Just because some of them have 6/7 years don't mean they'll perform at that level for that long, and it doesn't mean they will stay loyal to Liverpool (especially post-Klopp).

Liverpool still have a long way to go, a great club historically, and they have a good squad but it's not always easy to maintain it.

There are clubs that can offer higher wages, and other trophies in different countries.

 

[romufc]

VVD is 29 yo mate. And imo his style needs good pace.

Whoops, hes defo got 3 years in him though.

 

[Sandikan]

You need a lot of goals in the squad. We made the mistake this season in going in too light in both creation and forwards, and can't do it again.

Greenwood has had a great month, but isn't ready to play 50 a season yet, so Sancho would be a huge statement signing.

Centre back and a superb defensive mid would be great too of course.

No idea why anyone is talking about left back. Shaw is only just showing that he can turn out a lot at last.
One for well down the line.

 

[Withnail]

You need a lot of goals in the squad. We made the mistake this season in going in too light in both creation and forwards, and can't do it again.

Greenwood has had a great month, but isn't ready to play 50 a season yet, so Sancho would be a huge statement signing.

Centre back and a superb defensive mid would be great too of course.

No idea why anyone is talking about left back. Shaw is only just showing that he can turn out a lot at last.
One for well down the line.

I do think we need to upgrade LB.

Shaw can do a job and maybe it's not the most pressing ahead of RW/CB/CDM but the amount of times Rashford has played him in recently and he rarely picks anyone out.

 

[Raees]

I remember my Liverpool supporting mate in January being convinced that they'd be getting Sancho.

So I can see why they may not want us to make a move for him this window.

Yes I did find that bit a little disingenuous.. and after Mason’s recent showings I think he’s slightly behind the curve as to where his development is versus where Martial and Rashford are .. thus a right winger signing is of more importance than a striker whose motivation wouldn’t be as huge as a Sancho looking to become the best player in the EPL.

Chilwell is another potential landmine. Best let City step on it.

Any reason why you think this is the case? I think he’s a bit full of himself but looked very comfortable in an England shirt so is someone I think could play at a higher level and is naturally more effective in attack than a Shaw.

I think the reason we struggled recently against the press was having two full backs who are not the most comfortable on the ball and thus we couldn’t get out of defence once the ball had been passed to wide areas. AWB can be worked on but I think Shaw has a very fixed style of play so I can’t envisage any dramatic attacking improvements but yes perhaps one to wait on for another season before we make the final call as there are more important areas to address.

@Sandikan I think it is imperative we find a new specialist CDM, one who blends high defensive IQ with solid ball playing and good engine. A Fabinho or Fernandinho type would really elevate our efficiency in recovering ball and getting the ball to our very gifted advanced midfielders and forwards.

Lindelof and Maguire is vulnerable as a pair. It’s not an awful defence by any stretch of the imagination but Lindelof is a bit of a Maguire lite and I feel like we need a defensive powerhouse there, someone with pace strength and aggression to complement the more silkier approach of Maguire.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

Personally think if there's a full-back position to upgrade on, it's Wan Bissaka and not Shaw for how we want to play.

Agree that Pogba needs to stay. Less convinced on De Gea being a necessity(though he was very good vs Palace).

I do think we need a top class holding midfielder. I also think we need a better CB than Maguire.

But what fecking perch? They have 19 to our 20