Hurricane Patricia

[senorgregster]

Huge hurricane expected to hit Mexico today. 200 MPH winds measured. Two cities in its path. Could be very ugly if structures aren't very solid which I suspect they are not.

Mexico's Pacific coast is in the crosshairs of Hurricane Patricia, which became the most powerful tropical cyclone ever measured in the Western Hemisphere on Friday morning as its maximum sustained winds reached an unprecedented 200 mph (320 kph).

The hurricane is forecast to make landfall in the Mexican state of Jalisco Friday evening as a catastrophic Category 5 hurricane capable of causing widespread destruction. Residents and authorities in Mexico are rushing to prepare for what will likely be the strongest hurricane to ever make landfall on that country's Pacific coastline.

 

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[barros]

damn I never care about tornadoes and hurricanes until I move to US.....

 

[ghagua]

Hope people stay safe and loss of life is kept to the minimum.

 

[barros]

Hope people stay safe and loss of life is kept to the minimum.

If the hurricane lands at that speed a lot of lives would be lost.

 

[ghagua]

If the hurricane lands at that speed a lot of lives would be lost.

Absolutely. But people need to get to shelters as soon as they are told. This way loss of life can be kept to the minimum. I remember hurricane katrina that hit New Orleans and was shocked at the amount of lives that was lost during that hurricane. There is no way that should have happened in the U.S with the amount of warning people got, but most people simply ignored the warnings and we saw the results.

 

[adexkola]

Absolutely. But people need to get to shelters as soon as they are told. This way loss of life can be kept to the minimum. I remember hurricane katrina that hit New Orleans and was shocked at the amount of lives that was lost during that hurricane. There is no way that should have happened in the U.S with the amount of warning people got, but most people simply ignored the warnings and we saw the results.

That is false.

 

[Neutral]

That is false.

Yeah I didn't want to get drawn into an argument, but that's such a simplistic view of what happened...

 

[Samid]

Gusts at 245 mph. Talk about twisting in the wind.

 

[ghagua]

That is false.

What is false? People were warned to evacuate because of the approaching storm. What they could not predict was the devastation that it would cause.

 

[sun_tzu]

Absolutely. But people need to get to shelters as soon as they are told. This way loss of life can be kept to the minimum. .

How many shelters are there in those parts of mexico - honestly thats not a loaded question I genuinley have no idea of what provision is made for storm proof infrastructure there and as such how viable (and in what numbers if at all) it is for people to get to shelters?...

 

[senorgregster]

What is false? People were warned to evacuate because of the approaching storm. What they could not predict was the devastation that it would cause.

Not sure large numbers intentionally stayed behind. Always some idiots stay but most wanted to leave.

Louisiana's hurricane evacuation plan calls for local governments in areas along and near the coast to call for evacuations in three phases, starting with the immediate coast 50 hours before the start of tropical storm force winds. Persons in areas designated Phase II begin evacuating 40 hours before the onset of tropical storm winds and those in Phase III areas (including New Orleans) evacuate 30 hours before the start of such winds.[15]

However, many parishes were not able to provide sufficient transportation for citizens who did not have private means of evacuation, and many private care-taking facilities who relied on the same bus companies and ambulance services for evacuation were unable to evacuate their charges. Fuel and rental cars were in short supply and many forms of public transportation had been shut down well before the storm arrived.[16] The end result was that hundreds of thousands of residents and tourists were unable to evacuate and remained in the city. Nonetheless, some estimates claimed that 90-92% of the 1.3 million residents of the New Orleans metropolitan region evacuated including 80% of Orleans parish.

 

[senorgregster]

How many shelters are there in those parts of mexico - honestly thats not a loaded question I genuinley have no idea of what provision is made for storm proof infrastructure there and as such how viable (and in what numbers if at all) it is for people to get to shelters?...

I doubt they are set up for this. Go a few miles from resorts and you'll "houses" in terrible disrepair. This will not be pretty.

 

[sun_tzu]

I doubt they are set up for this. Go a few miles from resorts and you'll "houses" in terrible disrepair. This will not be pretty.

i did think that may be the case - as such suggesting people get to shelters may be at best optimistic as the shelters probably don't exist in sufficient numbers to protect people and at worst the shelters will be non existent

 

[adexkola]

What is false? People were warned to evacuate because of the approaching storm. What they could not predict was the devastation that it would cause.

Almost no one ignored the message. Those who didn't get out, couldn't. A disproportionate amount of those who couldn't get out lived in the poorest neighborhoods.

Flooding was predicted, but levees breaking was not expected. The disaster of Hurricane Katrina goes beyond the few days of the storm. It's 10 years past and the effects are still being felt.

 

[ghagua]

How many shelters are there in those parts of mexico - honestly thats not a loaded question I genuinley have no idea of what provision is made for storm proof infrastructure there and as such how viable (and in what numbers if at all) it is for people to get to shelters?...

Honestly no idea.

 

[unchanged_lineup]

Worried. I have a lot of friends in Jalisco/Guadalajara and it looks right in the path of it

 

[Tommy]

Watching a stream now (it's yet to hit land).

 

[Tommy]

New stream.


Could be the biggest in recorded history to hit land.

Pic taken from the ISS.

 

[barros]

Not sure large numbers intentionally stayed behind. Always some idiots stay but most wanted to leave.

Louisiana's hurricane evacuation plan calls for local governments in areas along and near the coast to call for evacuations in three phases, starting with the immediate coast 50 hours before the start of tropical storm force winds. Persons in areas designated Phase II begin evacuating 40 hours before the onset of tropical storm winds and those in Phase III areas (including New Orleans) evacuate 30 hours before the start of such winds.[15]

However, many parishes were not able to provide sufficient transportation for citizens who did not have private means of evacuation, and many private care-taking facilities who relied on the same bus companies and ambulance services for evacuation were unable to evacuate their charges. Fuel and rental cars were in short supply and many forms of public transportation had been shut down well before the storm arrived.[16] The end result was that hundreds of thousands of residents and tourists were unable to evacuate and remained in the city. Nonetheless, some estimates claimed that 90-92% of the 1.3 million residents of the New Orleans metropolitan region evacuated including 80% of Orleans parish.

I remember seeing on TV hundreds of school buses parked and under water, the trains left the city empty and the company running the trains asked the city if they need to evacuate people which was refused by the mayor. The mayor was a criminal in that aspect but we need to be serious, we never had to evacuate before, the storms always lost the strength before hitting land and after Katrina we have mandatory evacuations.

 

[Tommy]

Satellite comparison of Katrina and Patricia.

 

[MUFC07]

 

[Penna]

It must be very strange to be waiting in the calm before the storm. I can't imagine what that must feel like.

 

[barros]

It must be very strange to be waiting in the calm before the storm. I can't imagine what that must feel like.

I can tell you that's a strange feeling, I have a river behind my house and we never had a flood but I already used my kayak in front of my house in the street on the previous hurricane I was lucky because the original path was through the Delaware river and the surge would be 17 feet in Philadelphia and around my area (New Jersey).

 

[Tommy]

An active live stream.

 

[Rolandofgilead]

An active live stream.

Why can I hear people man, sounds like kids too

 

[Tommy]

No idea. It's made landfall now (further down the coast than in the vid)... Can only hope mother nature is feeling kind tonight.

 

[Simbo]

Webcams at the heart of it all seem to be down, one above is south of where it is making landfall.

 

[Tommy]

Here's a short clip from closer to the eye.

 

[Avatar]

Speed down slightly to 190 mph..not sure that would make any difference

 

[Twigg]

Here's a short clip from closer to the eye.

Bastards placed the facebook button where I'd usually expand the video

 

[senorgregster]

Sounds like this one was not as devastating as it could have been. Great news!

 

[Skizzo]

Sounds like this one was not as devastating as it could have been. Great news!

Certainly turned out better than it could have been. Thankfully it hit relatively unpopulated areas.