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If Bruno were to leave, who are the realistic replacements available? | Bruno stays
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I don’t think you can replace him, but you could bring in players that have heart, professionalism talent and drive. For example, if selling Bruno and some of the other dross could get us to here:
——————— Osimhem
———————— Zirkee
———————— Chido
——— Cunha —————— Mbuemo
——— Zirkee —————— Amad
Dorgu ——————————————— Amad
Shaw ————————————————Dalot
———— Mainoo ———— Baleba
———— Ederson ———— Case
—— Heaven — De Ligt —— Yoro
——— Shaw —- Harry —— Maz
——————- Anyone but
That team is beastly with only 4 more signings
- loads of youth
- big personalities too
Pretty sure this team would give anyone a good game
——————— Osimhem
———————— Zirkee
———————— Chido
——— Cunha —————— Mbuemo
——— Zirkee —————— Amad
Dorgu ——————————————— Amad
Shaw ————————————————Dalot
———— Mainoo ———— Baleba
———— Ederson ———— Case
—— Heaven — De Ligt —— Yoro
——— Shaw —- Harry —— Maz
——————- Anyone but
That team is beastly with only 4 more signings
- loads of youth
- big personalities too
Pretty sure this team would give anyone a good game
There's another thread for potential alternative captains, that's not really the point of this one.
The title is literally how to replace Bruno our captain
Yes especially if you don’t leave the best midfielder on the bench haha (Ederson)
Yes, but this is the thread you're looking for:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/who-is-captain-if-bruno-actually-goes.488220/
There is no like-for-like replacement for him, he's one of a kind. The management would do well to buy pieces that would compensate for what we would miss with him. Strengthen all areas.
I would love a midfielder in the mould of Fabian - great technical skills, creative, strong, good runner
He's not the player we need right now regardless of his qualities.
We need dynamic, mobile, press resistant, ball carriers.
He is none of those things - talented though he is.
We need dynamic, mobile, press resistant, ball carriers.
He is none of those things - talented though he is.
Wharton
Clearly tripping
Our hopes of Good to sometimes really good no.10 dies with him. His replacement of same calibre will not look forward to play for memorim. Its as simple as that.
Rubbish.
Bruno doesnt play as a 10 for Amorin, and likely won't.
Bruno plays as a CM. For 100Mil > We can absolutely sign a better CM than Bruno because Bruno has so many flaws as a CM, especially from deep.
Under Amorin's formation - selling Bruno actually kind of makes sense especially given the mental sum of money on offer.
I imagine we won't be going for a like for like replacement.
He played there a lot for Amorim so far
Somewhat - due to injuries, but it's clear he's favoured as a CM under Amorin.
Our two most prominent links in the transfer window so far are Cunha and Mbeumo - both 10's. Bruno won't be a 10 here next year with Cunha/New Signing/Amad/Mount/Zirkzee and possible Mainoo as options there.
for 100Mil you sign a much better CM than Bruno could ever be.
It would probably be considered negative from the fanbase on a whole, and the optics of selling Rashford, Garnacho and Bruno in 1 window wouldn't look great but you'd probably have a much more balanced team without Bruno in CM to be frank.
Our CM area is pathetic. Casemiro can't run, Collyer hasn't kicked on, Ugarte & Mainoo have been hit or miss and it's not Bruno's natural position. If we sign 2 competent CM's we are a totally different team.
Bruno will also only decline in the next two years > his biggest attribute of late is his ability to stay fit and the ground he covers. He's the wrong side of his 30's for that now and the money is crazy good.
There's a very strong case that Bruno needs to go
I did it to highlight squad depth, also think that Baleba and Mainoo could be our midfield for next decade. Ederson I think could also play on either wingback role as a backup so would get 40 games easy enough
I'm okay with letting Bruno go given he gets played out of position by Ruben (as a CM instead of a number 10).
If we can get good money for him and fund the following transfers I'd be okay with it:
- Sign 2 CMs: Baleba / Wharton / Ederson
- Sign 1 number 10: Mbeumo
- Sign 1 striker: Gyokeres / Sesko
I think we'd have to offload a lot more deadwood to be able to afford the above (Rashford, Garnacho, Antony, Sancho) but selling Bruno will help us significantly here too.
If we can get good money for him and fund the following transfers I'd be okay with it:
- Sign 2 CMs: Baleba / Wharton / Ederson
- Sign 1 number 10: Mbeumo
- Sign 1 striker: Gyokeres / Sesko
I think we'd have to offload a lot more deadwood to be able to afford the above (Rashford, Garnacho, Antony, Sancho) but selling Bruno will help us significantly here too.
Anguissa (short term stop gap for 2-3 seasons)
Ederson
Lamine Camara
Weston Mackenie (yes that Weston Mackenie, would be a good tactical fit for our cm in current formation)
Uche Chrisantus
Alex Baena
I think Wharton and Beleba are unfortunately gonna be way too overpriced.
Ederson
Lamine Camara
Weston Mackenie (yes that Weston Mackenie, would be a good tactical fit for our cm in current formation)
Uche Chrisantus
Alex Baena
I think Wharton and Beleba are unfortunately gonna be way too overpriced.
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Can anyone explain how we get wharton, who is the most commonly quoted new recruit?
What are we offering him? We are a team that finshed 15th in the league, and then (in this scenario), sold their club captain and, by a very very long way, best player. Does that sound like a great prospect for his career?
Why would he come here, and given he's likely cost more than we get for bruno, how will he come here?
What are we offering him? We are a team that finshed 15th in the league, and then (in this scenario), sold their club captain and, by a very very long way, best player. Does that sound like a great prospect for his career?
Why would he come here, and given he's likely cost more than we get for bruno, how will he come here?
We don't need a direct replacement for him, we need to move on from a style of football which is reliant on someone who is so unique as him.
I'm not an Amorim cultist, but Bruno in general is an awkward fit for modern footballing systems unless it's as part of a fully firing top level team.
I'm not an Amorim cultist, but Bruno in general is an awkward fit for modern footballing systems unless it's as part of a fully firing top level team.
People say this every year, yet we still manage to sign players coveted by other clubs. We'll always have pull.
I said it in another thread, but that PSG is a prime example of a team where you don't need some super creator focal point to rip teams apart going forward. It's about a high level of technicality, mobility, and game IQ throughout the squad. People sort of fall into that same trap when they wonder how a club will replace a top scoring striker, the equation isn't as simple as "Remove X player and his G/A, you need to add that G/A back with another player to replace him".
Instead we will rely on a system that is overly reliant on a lone striker!
Lots of people here suggesting Baleba if you sell Bruno, but it's completely unrealistic. Brighton would make sure that Baleba would cost you more than than you'd get from selling Bruno and honestly though I love him as a player, he's not worth north of 100 million yet and we would only part ways with him for Caicedo style money.
Ornstein had this to say last month
“Baleba has many admirers, believe me. And rightly so. However, I imagine Brighton have no desire or need to sell him in this summer’s window and when that is the case, they tend to get their way. He has enjoyed a superb first couple of years with them and is under contract until 2028. That puts Brighton in a position of great strength. There is also no indication he is agitating for a move. So it would take a king’s ransom for Brighton to even consider parting with Baleba — and I’m not aware of anyone preparing to go to such lengths at present. We’ve seen this movie many times over, Brighton and their owner, Tony Bloom, are among the shrewdest operators in the market, and they control these situations particularly well. That probably explains the lack of chatter you refer to.”
Ornstein had this to say last month
“Baleba has many admirers, believe me. And rightly so. However, I imagine Brighton have no desire or need to sell him in this summer’s window and when that is the case, they tend to get their way. He has enjoyed a superb first couple of years with them and is under contract until 2028. That puts Brighton in a position of great strength. There is also no indication he is agitating for a move. So it would take a king’s ransom for Brighton to even consider parting with Baleba — and I’m not aware of anyone preparing to go to such lengths at present. We’ve seen this movie many times over, Brighton and their owner, Tony Bloom, are among the shrewdest operators in the market, and they control these situations particularly well. That probably explains the lack of chatter you refer to.”
We are still Manchester United recently confirmed as the 2nd most valuable football club on the planet despite our recent shambolic form.
Instant greater exposure and the chance at greater sponsorship deals and better basic salary.
The kind of excellent season palace have just come off would still be a failure of a season here as opposed to a catastrophic one like we've just come off.
Most players can be sold on an ambitious project and the prospect of being a key part of better times at a club.
The sale of that captain if it goes ahead would be used as funds for that ambitious project.
But I agree he wouldn't be worth the money it would take to get him from Palace.
Wharton won't be leaving this window.
He isn't directly replaceable. The price of every player we want probably goes up by twenty million minimum as well. The move doesn't make a huge amount of sense financially, but it might make sense if he simply doesn't want to play for us anymore.
Mason Mount your time to shine has arrived!
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"We're Manchester United" should get it done.
There are a lot of players who know that becoming a big part of fixing Manchester United would be a huge career maker. Eric Cantona won the league with Leeds but made his name doing it at United. Bruno gets talked about more than most players in the league and we came 15th. Some people like the idea of the challenge and see the potential reward as out weighing the risk.
How about Sancet and Baena? Any la liga watchers?
Mount, Mason Mount. If we had unlimited funds we could do some great things in the transfer market at every position, including the Bruno role, but we don't so we can't.
Get two dominant CDMs that can play probing passes and spray passes around the pitch to the wingbacks, that can run like dogs the entire game, contest everything and win duels.
That will be where the money is best spent.
We can get a new striker and GK if needed from selling Garna and Rashford plus the Alvaro Carreras sell on.
That will be where the money is best spent.
We can get a new striker and GK if needed from selling Garna and Rashford plus the Alvaro Carreras sell on.
It's a lot more difficult to get somebody to be the first person to sign. It's a lot easier when you see a club making bigger signings as confirmation bias that the club is having an ambitious summer. You can win people over with that, of course with a big increase in wages and popularity United offer.
I was dead against letting Bruno go but my opinion of it has changed because
1) he is 31 and £100 m is good business for him if we’re wanting to rebuild a young squad
2) Man Utd can’t possibly be any worse than they were this year and relegation is impossible because of the gulf between recently promoted championship teams so we can’t feasibly slip down any further.
Why does nobody like Ugarte anymore I still think he’s decent and also very young.
1) he is 31 and £100 m is good business for him if we’re wanting to rebuild a young squad
2) Man Utd can’t possibly be any worse than they were this year and relegation is impossible because of the gulf between recently promoted championship teams so we can’t feasibly slip down any further.
Why does nobody like Ugarte anymore I still think he’s decent and also very young.
Bruno Guimaraes, but Newcastle will never sell.
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Is there breaking news on this? My mate just text me saying he’s staying but I can’t see anything being reported and don’t have Twitter any more.
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